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dummydecoy

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His clinic has a Chinese name, right? say it's 大安牙医, so something simple like this may just work

大安牙医,照顾全家

And probably no pinyin, no one reads that anyway. English or Chinese.


Oh, the name of his clinic is "Family Dental Clinic & Diagnostics"
with the slogan: "Quality Dental Service For Everyone in the Family"

What's the best way to present it in Chinese? Thanks!
 

luoapp

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Oh, the name of his clinic is "Family Dental Clinic & Diagnostics"
with the slogan: "Quality Dental Service For Everyone in the Family"

What's the best way to present it in Chinese? Thanks!

So, I guess he doesn't have a Chinese name for the clinic, yet. He should have one.

For now, I'm thinking just something like "全家牙诊所,照顾你全家“.
 

Usobuko

Banned
您 is better than 你。 Businesses don't tend to use the latter to address the customer.

<insert name>&#29273;&#31185;&#35786;&#25152;, &#20026;&#24744;&#20840;&#23478;&#25552;&#20379;<insert adjective>&#26381;&#21153;
 

dummydecoy

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&#24744; is better than &#20320;&#12290; Businesses don't tend to use the latter to address the customer.

<insert name>&#29273;&#31185;&#35786;&#25152;, &#20026;&#24744;&#20840;&#23478;&#25552;&#20379;<insert adjective>&#26381;&#21153;

Can you complete the formula mate? I have no idea what name and adjective to insert on there. lol
 
I'm looking for a comedy show or other TV shows that are sort of like &#23628;&#19997;&#30007;&#22763; (Diors Man?). Namely - that I can still find it funny and bearable to watch while still learning Chinese. &#23628;&#19997;&#30007;&#22763; has actually been pretty on point, with cameos here and there from US TV stars. I'm having a lot of trouble stomaching most Chinese television that isn't documentaries, but boy does CCTV have some fantastic documentaries.

Any suggestions?
 
Yea, I should watch more Chinese stuff to practice, but most Chinese programs bore me to fucking tears. It's almost all the same.

Against the Japanese war movies, ancient Chinese dramas,or modern soaps where everyone is fucking rich business men and women with force drama... Everywhere! Somebody make it stop!
 

vern

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Yeah all the porn gifs was turning the wechat group to shit (thanks hamz!), and I was using it on my GF's phone she was like, "so this is what foreigners do, just talk about sexing up teenage Chinese girls and look at exploding dicks all day?"

Lol it ain't that bad. I've been in worse Wechat groups that included mostly Chinese people. I'm in a photographers group chat with like 100 people and this dude sent out a 2 minute long video of a girl on a leash getting boned in the streets. He said he thought it was performance art.

That being said we can clean it up a little bit, welcome more people to join. Tell your gf &#19981;&#22909;&#24847;&#24605; for us.
 

Chichikov

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Yea, I should watch more Chinese stuff to practice, but most Chinese programs bore me to fucking tears. It's almost all the same.

Against the Japanese war movies, ancient Chinese dramas,or modern soaps where everyone is fucking rich business men and women with force drama... Everywhere! Somebody make it stop!
Don't forget civil war dramas!
"Nationalists scum or Japanese scum?" is my favorite drinking game when I am in a place that has CCTV on mute.
Well, it used to be, we all became too familiar with these shows by now.
 

Usobuko

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Can you complete the formula mate? I have no idea what name and adjective to insert on there. lol

I don't know the name of your friend.

I think the most common and easily recognizable approach is to just put his chinese translated name for the <insert name> part. For example, let's say your friend's name is David.

&#22823;&#21355;&#29273;&#31185;&#35786;&#25152;, &#20026;&#24744;&#20840;&#23478;&#25552;&#20379;&#39640;&#36136;&#37327;&#30340;&#29273;&#31185;&#26381;&#21153;

&#39640;&#36136;&#37327; = high quality.
 

vern

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Do you have the original in its full resolution? I would love to have a copy of the photo to use as a wallpaper! Thanks!

Got Alipay on your Wechat? Send me 50 RMB, or you can buy it at my 500px store. :p


Just kidding, PM your email or QQ or something I'll send it.
 

vern

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&#22823;&#23478;&#22909;! If everything goes according to our plan me and pal are going to Fudan University in Shanghai for a year. Any advices from ChinaGAF concerning accommodation? I also would love to know how the prices for a living are over there (food, clean water, gym membership). Thanks in advance!

Accomodation at Fudan? I don't know. Off campus that area is relatively cheap, share a place with your pal you'll probably pay 2000 rmb each per month for a pretty nice 2 bdr place.

Should be gym at Fudan ( think there are 2 actually according to my friend).

Food is either cheap as chips or hella expensive. Depends on your lifestyle. Water is cheap. China in general can be as cheap or as expensive as you want it to be. You could eat 3 meals for less than 20 rmb per day in Shanghai if you really wanted to (I hope you wouldn't do this).

Any specific questions I can try to help.
 

PrawnyNZ

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Visiting Beijing for the first time on a tour, got sucked into the nice girls wanting to have coffee but they order expensive tea scam in the main shopping area. Didn't know it was a thing but do now after googling it. Cost me 2500rmb to get out of there, which has blown my budget to hell.

Feel so fucking stupid :-(
 

acksman

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Heading back over to Shanghai in a couple weeks for business. Not sure I will have to much time to play this trip. Maybe my fall trip I will be there longer and see if there is a meetup somewhere.

I need to buy a purse. I usually go to Han City 580 Nanjing West Road | &#21335;&#20140;&#35199;&#36335;580&#21495; , but not sure this is the best place anymore. If anyone has updates I would appreciate it.

I go over to Pudong's Science and Technology Museum sometimes, but it seemed there was quite a few shops closed the last time I visited there.
 
Visiting Beijing for the first time on a tour, got sucked into the nice girls wanting to have coffee but they order expensive tea scam in the main shopping area. Didn't know it was a thing but do now after googling it. Cost me 2500rmb to get out of there, which has blown my budget to hell.

Feel so fucking stupid :-(
Happened to me, too.I just said I only have 300 rmb with me and left.
 

numble

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Visiting Beijing for the first time on a tour, got sucked into the nice girls wanting to have coffee but they order expensive tea scam in the main shopping area. Didn't know it was a thing but do now after googling it. Cost me 2500rmb to get out of there, which has blown my budget to hell.

Feel so fucking stupid :-(
Go to the cops, they often can get you your money back.
 

sasimirobot

Junior Member
The thing Will and I do is try to waste as much time of the scammer(s) as possible. Say things like, "Oh I need to go to an ATM Pokemon funny money branch to withdraw my millions", and make them follow you. Or make random phone calls, go to the toilet in starbucks, stop in convenience stores, ask stupid questions like, "tell me about Chinese history?", etc...

Just see how long you can string them along. Its good fun!
 

numble

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Visiting Beijing for the first time on a tour, got sucked into the nice girls wanting to have coffee but they order expensive tea scam in the main shopping area. Didn't know it was a thing but do now after googling it. Cost me 2500rmb to get out of there, which has blown my budget to hell.

Feel so fucking stupid :-(

If you're still in Beijing really, go to the cops. 2500 RMB is far above the average they take out of a scam:

http://classicsalted.blogspot.hk/2012/07/how-we-busted-chinese-tea-scam_1204.html

I presented my passport and explained the situation. Surabhi also joined us. They asked us the amount we paid and if we could identify the place. We told them that we could try. So, we ended up going around the city looking for the tea house in a police car. Luckily, thanks to Surabhi's excellent sense of direction (which if I may point out didn't work the first time we went looking for the place) and the police officers sense of where it could be, we found the tea place. Now, we were about to raid a tea house accompanied by Chinese police officers. This I felt was totally worth 600 yuan.

We reached the place, the employees there recognized us with a smile which suddenly turned to an open mouth when they saw the police officers walking behind. The police officers raided each of the small rooms and one of them had a job in progress. Bingo! All the con girls were on their knees now. They were cheating a Mexican couple to whom we explained the story. They of course considered us messiahs. We think, even if we don't get our money back, at least we saved two other tourists. All of us are taken back to a police station.

https://www.lonelyplanet.com/thornt...a-house-ceremony-scam-getting-your-money-back

(1) We located the tea house where we were scammed. This can be harder
than it sounds because the scammers take you via a convoluted route
and disorientate you with a barrage of questions when you are
leaving/arriving. If you have some sense of where the tea-house is,
good, just look for it. Otherwise, you could try going back to
People&#8217;s Square (or wherever the scammers found you) and wait for
another group to pick you up.

(2) Once we knew where the tea house was, we went to the police
station and told them we had been scammed. The police know the scam
well. In our case, a policeman came with us to the tea-house as
personal escort. He did not help us much at all, we had to locate the
tea-house ourselves (even though the policeman knew the tea-house) and
we had to do the majority of the talking &#8211; it seems the police have a
stand-off policy &#8211; they know about the scams and don&#8217;t stop them, but
if you complain and make enough noise , they will escort you and help
a little.

(3) Once we were at the teahouse with the policeman we confronted
whoever we could find. There was only one girl there (one of students
who finds westerns) and not one we had dealt with when we were
scammed. Even so, confronting her was enough to get our money back.

(4) We told them we know about the scam and that we are not leaving
until we get ALL our money back. Be stern and don&#8217;t be afraid to be
confrontational (verbally only, of course). They will try to say that
you had X cups of tea and that you have to pay for them, that you saw
the menu etc. Don&#8217;t back down , tell them you know about the scam, ask
them if they really think 49RMB per person per cup of tea is fair?!

http://www.bamboocompass.com/china-scams-the-teahouse-scam-12769.html
Anyway after doing an internet search and understanding all this I went to the police, as others had advised. I just tapped on the window of one of the police cars always stationed on The Bund. Despite the language barrier, I showed them the receipt & pictures I'd taken on the internet of "tea house scam" and they understood immediately. They called a police van & ten minutes later I was walking out of the tea house with my money, escorted by a police officer.

There was no problem getting the money back. As soon as i turned up with the police officer everyone knew the situation & they were paying out the money within a couple of minutes, with no real protests. I should say that initially the manager was trying to engage me directly but I didn't engage and let the police officer do all the talking.
 

Piecake

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I majored in Chinese (and history) and lived there for about 2 years during and a bit after college. After returning to the states, I really haven't done anything with it for about 5 years since it was just a lot more difficult finding opportunities to learn, and I was slightly pessimistic about every becoming truly proficient.

I started back up again recently though after getting interested in educational theory and researching about how we actually learn languages. It actually gave me the motivation and confidence to pick it back up considering that most research suggests that the two most important skills are listening and reading, and well, I can do that shit on my own. Moreover, it really is just about practice and getting quality hours in, not really all that much about 'skill' or ability. Frankly, I just don't think I put in the necessary hours into listening when I was studying Chinese.

So yea, listening and reading quite a bit of Chinese right now and it is kinda fun to get back into it. Any recommendations would be welcomed
 

Xiao Hu

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Accomodation at Fudan? I don't know. Off campus that area is relatively cheap, share a place with your pal you'll probably pay 2000 rmb each per month for a pretty nice 2 bdr place.

It depends on him if he wants to share an apartment with me. Said it could be a little contra productive for our language progress if we spend all day together. Otherwise I found a couple of nice shared apartments with international folks/students which I would kinda prefer (you get in touch with people who already know the city and may save you from some nasty scams. Plus making some rudimentary international contacts)


Food is either cheap as chips or hella expensive. Depends on your lifestyle. Water is cheap. China in general can be as cheap or as expensive as you want it to be. You could eat 3 meals for less than 20 rmb per day in Shanghai if you really wanted to (I hope you wouldn't do this).

That's good to know, helps me calculate the living expenses a little bit better.

Well thanks a lot for the info. Any advice for the language side? I passed the third semester in Chinese which might equal HSK 4(?) though the material we are working with &#26032;&#23454;&#29992;&#27721;&#35821;&#35838;&#26412; seems to be quite outdated. Which leaves the question where I can rather easily fresh up my vocabulary of contemporary Chinese. Vorsitzender Chuch mentioned &#28459;&#30011; several times though I don't know where to look for any.
 

vern

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It depends on him if he wants to share an apartment with me.

Well thanks a lot for the info. Any advice for the language side?

Your time in China will be whatever you make of it. Just come out here and give it a shot. I haven't taken any classes so I can't offer you advice on that. Just go outside and meet people, speak Chinese, etc. and you will learn a lot, doesn't matter who you are rooming with cuz ideally you will only go home to sleep anyway. Just don't worry so much.
 

WoodWERD

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2500RMB?! Holy crap dude, sorry to hear that.

PSA: It's never a bad idea to google 'common scams in <country> when traveling somewhere the first time.
 

PrawnyNZ

Member

Unfortunately my tour group shipped out to Suzhou early the next morning, so couldn't take any of the good advice here and go to the police. So many warning signs, I was really stupid. There were a couple of big guys blocking the doorway after I got the bill, so didn't know if negotiating, refusing to pay or trying to run would escalate into something much worse. Decided better to get out with just money damage.
At least I'll be on my guard from now on, especially for a visit to Nanjing Rd in Shanghai in a couple of days.

Found out another couple in my group were approached by a "professor" in Beijing at the same time but they managed to avoid going anywhere with him.
 

sasimirobot

Junior Member
Can somebody update and post the QR code for the wechat group? The last one expired. I have tried to get my coworker on it, searched for China-Gaf, etc...nothing works.
 

Wanace

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Can somebody update and post the QR code for the wechat group? The last one expired. I have tried to get my coworker on it, searched for China-Gaf, etc...nothing works.

You want to subject your coworker to the horror that is the WeChat group?

You can get the code yourself, choose the icon in the upper right and then scroll down to get the QR code (on iOS at least.)
 

sasimirobot

Junior Member
You want to subject your coworker to the horror that is the WeChat group?

You can get the code yourself, choose the icon in the upper right and then scroll down to get the QR code (on iOS at least.)

I use dumb phone.

But yeah my coworker has good taste in video games so I wanted to expose him to NeoGaf...
 

CorvoSol

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I'm free from school, so now I have all kinds of time to wander around China when I'm not working! Hooray! I figure I'll ask here, though: Does anybody know if there's like, a McDonalds or something where the wifi is slightly less restricted in China? I can't download Mewtwo onto my 3DS with the wifi at my place so I wanna come up with alternatives.
 
I'm free from school, so now I have all kinds of time to wander around China when I'm not working! Hooray! I figure I'll ask here, though: Does anybody know if there's like, a McDonalds or something where the wifi is slightly less restricted in China? I can't download Mewtwo onto my 3DS with the wifi at my place so I wanna come up with alternatives.
You fucked, bro. Luxuries of living in China.
 

Big-E

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I'm free from school, so now I have all kinds of time to wander around China when I'm not working! Hooray! I figure I'll ask here, though: Does anybody know if there's like, a McDonalds or something where the wifi is slightly less restricted in China? I can't download Mewtwo onto my 3DS with the wifi at my place so I wanna come up with alternatives.

Great Firewall is everywhere. You need to put a VPN onto your router if you want to have access to free internet. Random shops ain't doing that.
 

sasimirobot

Junior Member
I thought parts of Shanghai have unrestricted internet, does anybody have experience with that?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shanghai_Free-Trade_Zone

Oh wait, looks like they didn't go through with it after all:

"lthough it was initially reported that the zone would also have unrestricted access to the internet (with bans on sites such as Facebook lifted),[7] the official Xinhua News Agency has stated that Internet restrictions would not be lifted"
 

Big-E

Member
Great firewall is never going away unless western companies are going to offer incentives. China would rather their companies get big and fat rather than facebook and google. I really think sensitive information is not the real concern.
 

numble

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I'm free from school, so now I have all kinds of time to wander around China when I'm not working! Hooray! I figure I'll ask here, though: Does anybody know if there's like, a McDonalds or something where the wifi is slightly less restricted in China? I can't download Mewtwo onto my 3DS with the wifi at my place so I wanna come up with alternatives.
Some hotels offer it, you might as well pony up for a VPN.
 

CorvoSol

Member
Great Firewall is everywhere. You need to put a VPN onto your router if you want to have access to free internet. Random shops ain't doing that.

Some hotels offer it, you might as well pony up for a VPN.

I've got a VPN, which lets me browse the internet freely on my laptop. I don't think it's compatible with my 3DS, though. I wonder if I can somehow route my 3DS through the VPN? Hmmm.
 

Big-E

Member
I've got a VPN, which lets me browse the internet freely on my laptop. I don't think it's compatible with my 3DS, though. I wonder if I can somehow route my 3DS through the VPN? Hmmm.

Check your vpn's support website. They might have steps to show you how to put the vpn at the router level so all traffic is filtered through it. I know my VPN allows me to do that but I haven't bothered as the only device I use at home with my VPN is my desktop.
 

Chichikov

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Check your vpn's support website. They might have steps to show you how to put the vpn at the router level so all traffic is filtered through it. I know my VPN allows me to do that but I haven't bothered as the only device I use at home with my VPN is my desktop.
You generally need a custom firmware on your router to do that, it's generally not super complicated if you're a bit tech savvy, look for guides for your maker.

A simpler solution is to use your computer as a wifi hotspot, read more about it here -
https://www.cactusvpn.com/setup/share-vpn-windows-7-wi-fi/
 

CorvoSol

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You generally need a custom firmware on your router to do that, it's generally not super complicated if you're a bit tech savvy, look for guides for your maker.

A simpler solution is to use your computer as a wifi hotspot, read more about it here -
https://www.cactusvpn.com/setup/share-vpn-windows-7-wi-fi/

This is probably the better option, since I'm currently living at a school (I'm teaching English to first year High School students as an internship) and don't have the router password signin. The router's in my room, and the stuff's written on it, but someone must have at some point changed it, and it's probably for the best I not mess with that.
 

Liquid_015

Gold Member
I'm free from school, so now I have all kinds of time to wander around China when I'm not working! Hooray! I figure I'll ask here, though: Does anybody know if there's like, a McDonalds or something where the wifi is slightly less restricted in China? I can't download Mewtwo onto my 3DS with the wifi at my place so I wanna come up with alternatives.

If you are in Shanghai, some hotels (Shangri-La in Pudong) has internet that allows you to browse Facebook and etc...
 

PrawnyNZ

Member
Got back from my brief visit a couple of days ago, and already I'm missing being in China despite my unfortunate encounter in Beijing. Really enjoyed being in a vast country with a vast population and such energy. Makes NZ feel a little sleepy.

Been thinking about going and teaching English there since I'm not enjoying my job here now and I'm in two minds. Got back to NZ and was stunned by the clear blue sky and fresh air. Never had that coming back for a trip to the US. It would be a lower income, but lower costs and a total change from my IT job now.

Just need to separate in my mind being on a tour with good hotels, catered meals and organized activities wit actual reality living in a small apartment, working every day and cooking for myself.
 
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