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AMD announced Radeon RX460 and RX470 (June 29)
- Thread starter dr_rus
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RazorbackDB
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So now that RX 480 launched I guess this thread can come back to RX 470/460 now,
http://videocardz.com/62117/amd-confirms-radeon-rx-470-and-rx-460-specifications
Nice to see 470 is just 4 CU less than 480.
http://videocardz.com/62117/amd-confirms-radeon-rx-470-and-rx-460-specifications
Nice to see 470 is just 4 CU less than 480.
comshoplesce
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why no news about 460/470? 
Aztechnology
Member
why no news about 460/470?
Well... if the 470 is too close to the 480 it could hurt their sales a lot on the 480. Doesn't surprise me much since there's still lots of excitement and controversy playing out.
comshoplesce
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finally something.
GifGafIsTheBestGaf
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a 470 should be a good upgrade from a 7970 right?
Not really.
dr_rus
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From RX480 reviews thread.
Well, you'll get some performance but the jump won't be big, somewhere between +33 and +50% I guess.
GifGafIsTheBestGaf
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From RX480 reviews thread.
Well, you'll get some performance but the jump won't be big, somewhere between +33 and +50% I guess.
lol, oh well i still have time to decide im mostly just fixing my desktop and switching some old parts to something newer without trying to break the bank
The rumoured $180 USD price for the 470 in that link is extremely disappointing. A $20 difference between the 470 and 480 seems incredibly small.
They may have learned from their previous cut down cards. There was very little point paying a great deal more for a 290X/390X when they were only about 7% faster than a 290/390.
Dunno what the point would even be with a $20 difference. I think there was rumors that 4GB would be $150 and 8GB would be $180.
Even though a 4gb card seems a bit tight in the ram department, this would still be a great card for people who don't mind turning down the settings a bit for some games. For about 80% of other games it's going to be fine for the next two years. I'm seeing plenty of games released on Steam that aren't taxing the latest systems.
A $150 to $180 comparison is pretty close but if you compare it to the $250 6gb GTX 1060, then it's a pretty big gap and gets real interesting. It's 15%-20% faster for like 66% more. It's also more than a decent 1080/60 card and far faster (40%) than a 960.
My hangup is due to how they awkwardly positioned the 400 line so far. I would expect a bigger differentiation in price between the jump in models. If the RX 470 ends up starting at $180, I'm not sure who that caters to when there's a huge gap between the 460 and 470 they could have looked at instead.
That's what I'm still hoping. $150 for a 4GB would be great.
dr_rus
Member
Took them long enough. Still it's great to see a solid date.
Supposedly there isn't going to be an official reference design for either, but manufacturers may choose to reuse the reference 480 cooler anyway, like that Sapphire blower.
The 470 looks like it might be slower than I hoped for. TFLOPs are fine, but the memory is even slower than the 4GB 480, which was already 1Gbps less than the 8GB 480. I'm guessing the gap between the 470 and 480 will be more like 15% rather than 10% or less like the 380/X or 290/X.
opticalmace
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Any idea why they're comparing them to the 200 series and not the 300 series?
It might be because they didn't have a card at that price point in the 300 series ($180) - the 370X was only released in Asia, and the 370 was a slower card, another 7850 rebrand rather than 7870 like the 270/X.
dr_rus
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There's basically no difference between 200 and 300 series below the 280X/380.
XFX and Sapphire Radeon RX 470/460 pictured up close
470 reference:
470 XFX:
460 Sapphire:
Last Prime
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August 4th is just around the corner and still no official announcement from AMD regarding the price of the RX 470.
Baron_Calamity
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So any guesses to who will be the first AIB with a 8gb 470?
fabricated backlash
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Will the 470 fit in a Micro atx case? Looks small enough
Nostremitus
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This is my plan as well. My HTPC has a 5350, which was sufficient with my old TV... ...but not so much anymore.
Pairing a RX 460 with an Athlon 5350 in an HTPC should be fine, right?
dr_rus
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LOLCats
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I think so yep. I'll be going i5 just to stay flexible for the future. I dont see any resolutions posted anywhere yet for the RX460, but im assuming it will do the 3840x2160@60p....
same here though, my Q6600 with ATI 4400 are showing their age now and cant do a 4k desktop
dr_rus
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RX470 reviews: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1257846
chaosblade
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I can't be the only one completely confused by AMD's product positioning with Polaris, right?
The 470 and 480's price points and performance practically overlap. Nonreference 470s cost the same or more than reference 4GB 480s. TBD whether those 480s are going to be actual products going forward, but regardless it's a product AMD has laid out. They perform pretty darn close to each other too.
Then you have a huuuuuge gap between the 470 and 460. And the 460 itself doesn't even look to outperform it's direct predecessors? Which are available at about the same price if you look around/accept rebates?
I don't get it.
The 470 and 480's price points and performance practically overlap. Nonreference 470s cost the same or more than reference 4GB 480s. TBD whether those 480s are going to be actual products going forward, but regardless it's a product AMD has laid out. They perform pretty darn close to each other too.
Then you have a huuuuuge gap between the 470 and 460. And the 460 itself doesn't even look to outperform it's direct predecessors? Which are available at about the same price if you look around/accept rebates?
I don't get it.
Beautiful Ninja
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The RX 480 seems to be underperforming for various reasons, otherwise the RX 470 shouldn't be so close. One suspicion is that the RX 480 is ROP limited and one of things AMD had to do to increase performance right before launch was clock and volt higher than expected. The RX 470 is likely not ROP limited with its cut down core and is able to fly pretty close to RX 480.
The RX 460 seems to be a issue where they just don't have the performance per watt Nvidia has, but they want to have a card without a PCI-E connector. As an "e-sports" card it's gonna be marketed at people who are likely upgrading cheap OEM PC's so Little Billy can play LoL and DOTA 2.
Beautiful Ninja
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I suspect the only reason this card exists at all is because of the lack of a needed PCI-E connector and a gaming card to fill that niche hasn't existed on AMD's side for a long time. Right now the only cards I know of from AMD that don't have one are the real bargain basement dumpster cards like R7 250's that are only useful as display connectors and not as gaming devices. Nvidia's had the budget OEM upgrade market on lock for a long time now with the GTX 750 series cards and there's even some GTX 950's that run purely on PCI-E power.