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AMD | Bulldozer, Fusion, AM3+, FM1, and What's To Come
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Overclockers review is up. Probably the only positive review.
Mainly because they put LN2 on it and got 7.6Ghz out of it. 7.5Ghz Pi run too.
http://www.overclockers.com/amd-fx-8150-bulldozer-processor-review
My 2500K at 4.2Ghz pulls 9.3 seconds. I know it is a bad parallel and an old bench but... man.
Mainly because they put LN2 on it and got 7.6Ghz out of it. 7.5Ghz Pi run too.
http://www.overclockers.com/amd-fx-8150-bulldozer-processor-review
My 2500K at 4.2Ghz pulls 9.3 seconds. I know it is a bad parallel and an old bench but... man.
TheExodu5 said:Here is the worst case scenario:
And a game more people care about:
AMD still can't pull off 60fps in SC2. For shame.
Jesus what in the hell. What took so long then? I was hearing Bulldozer last year around this time wasnt I? I didnt expect them to equal SB, but this gap is uncomfortably larger than it should be IMO.
Reallink said:
Well IB to be sure now. With this rift, there is zero chance of 'competitive' pricing.
Angelus Errare
Banned
So depressing, oh so depressing.
MeBecomingI
Member
Wow, AMD. Wow... absolutely humiliating. Well, at least you have your APU to work on... might as well make those the best in the world and become the Intel of the netbook market.
Broseybrose
Member
Having just picked up a Core i5 and 6GB of RAM for my 8800GTX that I'm still rocking hard, I'm feeling pretty good about my choice. Just pick up a 570 on sale one of these days and Ive got an excellent modern rig. :] Even more excellent than the rig I built in '07 (when I bought that 8800GTX and 24" LCD).
It's funny seeing the difference in games going from Athlon 64 X2 5000+ and 2GB RAM to Core i5 and 6GB, all with the same GPU. What an overall difference. EVERYTHING IS FASTER, including games, which came as a bit of a surprise... even though I've known that I was CPU limited since '07, I didnt realize what a difference a CPU makes in games.
It's funny seeing the difference in games going from Athlon 64 X2 5000+ and 2GB RAM to Core i5 and 6GB, all with the same GPU. What an overall difference. EVERYTHING IS FASTER, including games, which came as a bit of a surprise... even though I've known that I was CPU limited since '07, I didnt realize what a difference a CPU makes in games.
IchigoSharingan
Member
Been on AMD systems for almost a decade. Time to grab a i7 2600k come black friday. Ah well. Too bad it had to end on such a vomit-inducing note!
Zombie James
Banned
From the Anandtech review:
Shades of Pentium 4.
Shades of Pentium 4.
Rabid Wolverine
Member
Drkirby said:
Q2 2012.
After these reviews they should be in no rush.
CoreI2500K here I come.
dragonelite
Member
MCD said:
Or with even longer for piledriver.
I am uneducated lazy bastard or in other words, I need someone to make me a long ass list of what parts to buy.RaijinFY said:
Motherboards, GPUs, etc... the boring stuff. I am only good at clicking that "BUY" button.
What I am afraid of though is if I went the Phenom route then I can't upgrade to a Bulldozer later on (incompatible motherboards?).
dragonelite
Member
MCD said:
Am3+ is backward compatible i have a 955 in a AM3+ board.
jonremedy said:
I just read the AnandTech review, and I'm pretty much up shit creek without a paddle... Was banking on AMD delivering the goods as I have an Asus Sabertooth 990FX motherboard, 8Gb of DDR3 RAM, three new hard drives, new case and new monitor ready to roll for my new build.
Been stuck using a fucking netbook for the last three weeks since my old rig kicked the bucket. I guess the big decision now is I'm either on the hunt for a 975BE or 1100T CPU to finish this build OR take the plunge anyway and go the FX-8150 regardless.
Thoughts?
You can pick up a 990 board and a Phenom now.MCD said:That's an awesome guide though I'd love to get a AMD Phenom instead of Intel.
Intel is king but I want a change this time around even if it is for the worse.
Fucking AMD.
GIGABYTE GA-990XA-UD3
AMD Phenom II X6 1100T Black Edition
Though you can get a 2500K with a Z68 board at that price which will beat it in most common tasks and upgrade (most likely) to Ivy Bridge. AMDs new CPUs are a waaaaaaaays away.
Will 990FX motherboards do?Hazaro said:
Like this: http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=4001#ov
And I have two silly questions:
Can you install SSDs on these?
And is there a mobo with two ethernet? I kinda need a secondary one for VPN stuff but it is no necessary, I could always do with Wifi.
Fair Trial
Member
MCD said:
Why you care going with AMD if their product is clearly inferior in every way for gaming?
You said that you don't know much about pc, so is it just because you prefer the AMD logo?
You are wasting your money.
Unknown Soldier
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Wait, did that review seriously say Bulldozer has a 440W power draw when OCed? What kind of heat does it put out? Christ.
Is it too late for me to say I told you so, like again? I mean, I posted on the first page of this thread months and months ago that you'll be disappointed and AMD's "8 cores" isn't really 8 cores. Some people even thought to attack me personally a page or two back with hilarious results. Those personal attacks sure look great now! Well, enjoy your crow!
Is it too late for me to say I told you so, like again? I mean, I posted on the first page of this thread months and months ago that you'll be disappointed and AMD's "8 cores" isn't really 8 cores. Some people even thought to attack me personally a page or two back with hilarious results. Those personal attacks sure look great now! Well, enjoy your crow!
I dont get one thing, what is with turbo mode after OC? :>
If I overclock 8150 from 3.6 to 4ghz, do the Turbo Mode scales up too, or its just overclock option for 'dummies' for stock clock? :>
And do we have full control over cores and turbo mode [in windows environment] or its all automated?
If I overclock 8150 from 3.6 to 4ghz, do the Turbo Mode scales up too, or its just overclock option for 'dummies' for stock clock? :>
And do we have full control over cores and turbo mode [in windows environment] or its all automated?
now I kinda want one just to see how hot it gets on my setup -_-
haven't looked at all reviews yet just woke up anyone seen some real overclock numbers? Most reviews seem to do 4.5ish on air?
Overclockers.com mentioned going 4.75ghz 24/7 with a 3*120 radiator "which was higher than they realized on Sandy Bridge" but they don't compare that to a overclocked SB (and I think everyone with watercooling should get 4.8 out of SB )
fake edit: just saw the overclocking stuff in the final page of HardOCP part 1 review ... 4.5 max with a H100 and even that wasn't 100% stable? ouch -> real edit: ok that was a 8120
so the only "positive points" I can discover so far is that it does well on LN2 and the x264 encoding 2nd pass performance is pretty good ... and it's somewhat cheaper than a 2600K ofcourse. Well guess it is an alternative to the 2500K then if you are certain you only use heavily multi-threaded applications (when you're on a tight budget)
I like Anandtech's final line
haven't looked at all reviews yet just woke up
anyone seen some real overclock numbers? Most reviews seem to do 4.5ish on air? Overclockers.com mentioned going 4.75ghz 24/7 with a 3*120 radiator "which was higher than they realized on Sandy Bridge" but they don't compare that to a overclocked SB (and I think everyone with watercooling should get 4.8 out of SB
)fake edit: just saw the overclocking stuff in the final page of HardOCP part 1 review ... 4.5 max with a H100 and even that wasn't 100% stable? ouch -> real edit: ok that was a 8120
so the only "positive points" I can discover so far is that it does well on LN2 and the x264 encoding 2nd pass performance is pretty good ... and it's somewhat cheaper than a 2600K ofcourse. Well guess it is an alternative to the 2500K then if you are certain you only use heavily multi-threaded applications (when you're on a tight budget)
I like Anandtech's final line
McHuj
Member
I'm still sticking with the theory that there is something wrong/bug with Bulldozer.
Otherwise, this is one of the worst engineered chips.
Intel's Sandy Bridge chip size is 216mm and 995M transistors, Bulldozer according to Anand is ~2 billion transistors and 315mm.
The latest AMD chip is basically twice the size of a 11 month old design, consumes more power, and roughly performs the same or worse.
I think in another 6 months or so when Ivy Bridge comes out, we'll see an "FX-8180" that will perform much better and have better power numbers.
Having said that I would consider it, but not at the current prices, knock off 50 or so bucks and then it's a much more competitive chip.
Otherwise, this is one of the worst engineered chips.
Intel's Sandy Bridge chip size is 216mm and 995M transistors, Bulldozer according to Anand is ~2 billion transistors and 315mm.
The latest AMD chip is basically twice the size of a 11 month old design, consumes more power, and roughly performs the same or worse.
I think in another 6 months or so when Ivy Bridge comes out, we'll see an "FX-8180" that will perform much better and have better power numbers.
Having said that I would consider it, but not at the current prices, knock off 50 or so bucks and then it's a much more competitive chip.
Old Gimlet Eyes
Member
$50 off might make it more competitively priced, but that doesn't change the massive performance and power draw differences. Looking at these benches, BD is almost a joke processor. I love my Phenom II x3 and was looking forward to see what BD could do, now I just shake my head and laugh at it.McHuj said:
Holy shit at those power consumption numbers. I'm all about performance/watt and keeping things at reasonable levels. Any temptation to upgrade early with AMD is absolutely destroyed. Would not take those chips for free as a replacement for my current CPU.
Ivy Bridge is getting significant power reduction with the 3D transistors and 22nm die shrink. AMD is going wildly in the wrong direction. Even if they can clean things up a bit, Ivy Bridge will be moving the goalposts significantly. Not great for competition and aggressive pricing
Ivy Bridge is getting significant power reduction with the 3D transistors and 22nm die shrink. AMD is going wildly in the wrong direction. Even if they can clean things up a bit, Ivy Bridge will be moving the goalposts significantly. Not great for competition and aggressive pricing
any benches for FX4100?
I only want to know whether it can beat X4 9XX
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http://nl.hardware.info/reviews/238...ulldozer-review-benchmarks-tom-clancys-hawx-2
so 4100 is worse then X4 955 ? wtf
I only want to know whether it can beat X4 9XX
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http://nl.hardware.info/reviews/238...ulldozer-review-benchmarks-tom-clancys-hawx-2
so 4100 is worse then X4 955 ? wtf