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AMD Radeon 500 series to launch early April, Radeon Vega in May
- Thread starter dr_rus
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https://videocardz.com/67642/amd-radeon-rx-vega-is-just-around-the-corner
Not much new except there will be a 4GB variant for notebooks.
I wonder if Vega is nothing more than a shrunken Fiji.
Not much new except there will be a 4GB variant for notebooks.
I wonder if Vega is nothing more than a shrunken Fiji.
Given what they have told us already, it absolutely isn't.
DemonCleaner
Member
better be dirt cheap this rx500 series. otherwise it's rather pointless and will just piss of consumers.
Coulomb_Barrier
Member
Really confusing what is what here, as last month a '580' was benched in AotS and scored about 15% faster than the 480.
I dunno if the 580 is a re-brand with a huge clock increase, small Vega 11 or even a small Vega 10. We need some answers. NOWL.
Tenacious-D
Member
I don't get posts like these. Whose going to be upset? The 580 will probably be 10-15% faster than the 480, so that's a decent upgrade for guys who are running older cards like the GTX960 or R9 280, or guys who have recently bought a FreeSync monitor and don't have the cash for VEGA.
FingerBang
Member
I need AMD to release Vega to build a new rig. Seems like I've been waiting forever...
Nydus
Member
I just bought a fury nitro to fuel my freesyncmonitor till vega comes.
DemonCleaner
Member
580 is full polaris 10 with ~ 1350 MHz clock
which should result rather in a 7 % perf gain compared to a non ref card (non throtteling)
even if it's 15 % across the board, thats rather bad regarding you usually see a 50-100% gain on perf per price on a full generational update (~2 year circle).
DemonCleaner
Member
might still be that, if they just shrunk the overclocking headroom. (my 480 clocked stable to 1380 MHz). but i don't think that thats the case.
i guess best case scenario would if they increased memory bandwith complementary to clock speeds, as there were situation where this seemed to be the 480s bottleneck (w3 forest sections for example).
would still be a decent buy if prices would be lowered sub 200 USD/EUR vat included for the 8GB model
i guess best case scenario would if they increased memory bandwith complementary to clock speeds, as there were situation where this seemed to be the 480s bottleneck (w3 forest sections for example).
would still be a decent buy if prices would be lowered sub 200 USD/EUR vat included for the 8GB model
Coulomb_Barrier
Member
It's better than nothing. It's only been 1 year since Polaris.
On the other side Nvidia will just have the same 1050s/1060s in the price bracket for the rest of this year at least. Brilliant opportunity to decisively take the performance crown in the $200 price bracket for ATI.
SolidSnakeUS
Member
Seriously, it's really disappointing that AMD is waiting to almost the beginning of Summer for VEGA to be released (supposedly late May, early June). The fact it will be released over 2 months after the 1080 Ti, that's pretty bad. I want AMD to do well and be more competitive in the high end desktop market, but their timing hasn't been good. Their timing hasn't been that good for a long time. Ryzen was the best timed thing they've done in years.
Irobot82
Member
Unless AMD can get away from Global Foundries it's just going to keep going this way.
dr_rus
Member
What's Global Foundries have to do with AMD waiting on availability of HBM2 for a certain price?
Tenacious-D
Member
VEGA is replacing the R9 Fury series, so you might get a MINIVEGA somewhere down the line.
You also might not. It's all speculation at the moment.
Pop-O-Matic
Banned
Wouldn't be surprised if there's a Vega-based successor to the Nano.
I would be down for that, even if it wasn't the highest end one (as long as its higher than my Nano). That said, it would be nice if pricing was better than Nano's initial $500.
IgotElbows
Member
Was thinking of getting a 1060 soon.
Would a 570/580 be a better choice? For same 200-250$ price.
Would a 570/580 be a better choice? For same 200-250$ price.
Unknown Soldier
Member
So just rebadged and slightly overclocked 470/480. I don't even know why they bother. It's not as if rebranding 200 series as 300 magically made them sell.
dr_rus
Member
It did actually, but mostly because they doubled the VRAM on 300 series. Doesn't look like anything of the sort for the 500 so yeah, seems like a mostly pointless lineup switch.
Rushersauce
Banned
Meh, should have rebranded the 480 as 570, and the 470 as 560. That would have been a good rebranding, at least.
chaosblade
Unconfirmed Member
I still think it's for manufacturers. I expected them to transition to a 500 series with Vega if only because of that well before it was confirmed, and had people telling me I was wrong and that Vega was totally going to be higher tiers in the 400 series and Fury replacements.
Manufacturers selling prebuilt PCs want higher numbers than the old model to be able to list for their systems. Even if the performance difference is negligible they can get away with marking up a PC with a brand new 580 for more than one with an old hat 480.
Nvidia has done the same thing, but without pushing the cards to retail. I know there was an OEM-only GTX 300 series.
Manufacturers selling prebuilt PCs want higher numbers than the old model to be able to list for their systems. Even if the performance difference is negligible they can get away with marking up a PC with a brand new 580 for more than one with an old hat 480.
Nvidia has done the same thing, but without pushing the cards to retail. I know there was an OEM-only GTX 300 series.
Pop-O-Matic
Banned
Thing is that Vega will probably end up using 590 and/or Fury branding so you'd be left without a 580.
Unknown Soldier
Member
You may be right, but I've never seen a single pre-built desktop PC with an AMD card. They all use Intel graphics now, except for a few Alienware-type gaming PCs which have Nvidia.
Nvidia also had the OEM-only GTX 800M series, rebadges of 700M specifically for laptops. This is why on the desktop we skipped directly from the GTX 700 to the GTX 900 series.
DemonCleaner
Member
so this only makes any sense if they lower the MSRP significantly
Someone in r/AMD did some speculation on Vega performance, and it looks reasonable.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/62inht/vega_speculation_math_qualifying_the_hype/
https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/62inht/vega_speculation_math_qualifying_the_hype/
I like and use AMD, but their promotional slides are such a joke. I'm happy with my 480 4gb, but the right price/performance with Vega could get me to upgrade.
uhhh where's the fan or vents for it?
They're all guilty of using shitty graphs in their marketing. However, people used to seeing these things should know better than to blurt out garbage. AMD might not even be comparing it to the same GPUs.
chaosblade
Unconfirmed Member
WCCF is the site that said 480s overclock amazingly and when OC'd they compared favorably to the 1070. I wouldn't trust anything from them.
If real, it's probably taking after the Fury X and is liquid cooled, so no fan on the card.
If real, it's probably taking after the Fury X and is liquid cooled, so no fan on the card.
Jest Chillin
Member
I'm far from knowledgable about these things but that looks like a design that would connect to a water cooler.
Edit: Something like this.
Sure, but that paragraph is brazen, even from them.
ahh this slide would explain my earlier question
I thought the name of the card was actually Vega.. why the Rage moniker? Vega Rage sounds dumb
edit: oh fuck you WCCFtech, claim april fools but you know you doing this shit for hits
goddamn they even had the same specs for the last 2 cards, i feel stupid
ahh this slide would explain my earlier question
I thought the name of the card was actually Vega.. why the Rage moniker? Vega Rage sounds dumb
edit: oh fuck you WCCFtech, claim april fools but you know you doing this shit for hits
goddamn they even had the same specs for the last 2 cards, i feel stupid
Why? Because they used it in the past.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ATI_Rage
I maintain its stupid and they won't.
Rushersauce
Banned
What if true? What if it really delivers?Oh, I missed this one, lol.
Nice April Fools
Except that apparently the R in fact does stand for Rage.
RX = Rage X.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HAlbAj-iVbE&feature=youtu.be&t=1959