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[3x0]

Apparently, Gigabyte might've updated its Gaming 5 mobos to handle DDR4 ECC:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/5w4jhn/gigabyte_updates_gaming_5_bios_for_ddr4/

Where does it mention ECC? It's just a normal BIOS update addressing RAM compatibility. Happens with every platform release, be it Intel or AMD.

 

[Kambing]

Anyone know when the embargo lifts? Can't find it on the web.
Really hope AMD pull through.

 

[RenegadeXV8]

Well I guess this is kinda sorta maybe confirmation that Ryzen won't OC as well as Broadwell/Skylake/Kabylake (not that it should come as any surprise). From MSI's manual:

Same feature for Broadwell-E and Skylake/Kabylake:

 

[Xyber]

Even if Ryzen might not be as good as the very limited benchmarks says it is, the consumer still benefits a lot from AMD's finally delivering a competitive CPU again. Intel is lowering prices quite a bit on pretty much their entire lineup.

http://wccftech.com/intel-amd-price-war-ryzen-processors/

Edit: Looking at the comments it seems like Microcenter have had these prices for quite some time. ¯\_(&#12484_/¯

wccft gonna wccft I guess.

 

[3x0]

Even if Ryzen might not be as good as the very limited benchmarks says it is, the consumer still benefits a lot from AMD's finally delivering a competitive CPU again. Intel is lowering prices quite a bit on pretty much their entire lineup.

http://wccftech.com/intel-amd-price-war-ryzen-processors/

Only at Microcenter. They're known for great deals on Intel processors from time to time.
If the price is reflected by the rest of the retailers then it's a price cut.

 

[GinoFelino]

Even if Ryzen might not be as good as the very limited benchmarks says it is, the consumer still benefits a lot from AMD's finally delivering a competitive CPU again. Intel is lowering prices quite a bit on pretty much their entire lineup.

http://wccftech.com/intel-amd-price-war-ryzen-processors/

Edit: Looking at the comments it seems like Microcenter have had these prices for quite some time. ¯_(&#12484_/¯

wccft gonna wccft I guess.

Yeah and nothing of the sort is happening in Europe. I hope it still does; a Core i7 is 370 here.

 

[Nostremitus]

Looks like an overclocker broke the Cinebench multi-thread world record with the 5.2GHz 1800X, LN2 obviously...

http://wccftech.com/amd-ryzen-7-1800x-world-record/

The record run shows a group of overclockers putting an AMD Ryzen 7 1800X chip through the test in Cinebench R15. The chip was cooled with LN2 and voltage was bumped to an outrageous 1.875V. This allowed the overclockers to push this chip to 5.2 GHz across all 8 cores using LN2 cooling which kept the chip operating at a cool -200c.

At these speeds, the chip was able to score 2449 Cinebench points in the multi-threaded tests, breaking the previous world record of 2410 Cinebench points on an 8 core processor.

Video is in the link. By video, I mean a shitty slideshow with terrible music...

 

[BronzeWolf]

I am out of the loop on CPU tech. Intel's dominance made it boring.

Is Ryzen good?

 

[Nostremitus]

I am out of the loop on CPU tech. Intel's dominance made it boring.

Is Ryzen good?

Still waiting on independent benchmarks, but it's looking pretty good.

 

[Xyber]

I am out of the loop on CPU tech. Intel's dominance made it boring.

Is Ryzen good?

Good, yes. How good? Will have to wait a bit longer for benchmarks to decide that.

 

[Steel]

I am out of the loop on CPU tech. Intel's dominance made it boring.

Is Ryzen good?

Seems like actually competing with intel good, but beyond that it's hard to tell yet.

 

[longdi]

Well I guess this is kinda sorta maybe confirmation that Ryzen won't OC as well as Broadwell/Skylake/Kabylake (not that it should come as any surprise). From MSI's manual:




Same feature for Broadwell-E and Skylake/Kabylake:

From seeing years of overclock data, Stage 6 seems the most achievable/realistic with air coolers and 240mm AIO.

Stage 6 on Ryzen is better than HWE and BWE. Since Ryzen has same IPC as BWE, Intel $999 8 core pricing is toast.

Im surprised the 6 and 4 cores part overclocking worse though.

 

[Steel]

From seeing years of overclock data, Stage 6 seems the most common with air coolers and 240mm AIO.

Stage 6 on Ryzen is better than HWE and BWE. Since Ryzen has same IPC as BWE, Intel $999 8 core pricing is toast.

Im surprised the 6 and 4 cores part overclocking worse though.

Yeah, thought that was strange. Especially since the base clock on the 1600x is higher than the 1700x. Actually, scratch that, 1600x is 3,3 ghz and 1700x is 3.4.

 

[Lactose_Intolerant]

Well I guess this is kinda sorta maybe confirmation that Ryzen won't OC as well as Broadwell/Skylake/Kabylake (not that it should come as any surprise). From MSI's manual:

Same feature for Broadwell-E and Skylake/Kabylake:

 

[Coulomb_Barrier]

Why exactly? There are quite a few games where you can easily demonstrate CPU's performance.

It is strange and it does point to the fact that Ryzen might not be as good in gaming as in rendering (Cinebench seems to be everywhere these days, I hope you all are using it all the time).

Wait for proper benchmarks.

I meant to say 'demonstrating it first' with games.

But anyway, this is pointless debate anyway as they had Sniper Elite running in the reveal a couple days ago with a FPS counter on the screen next to a HEDT.

 

[Deleted member 59090]

Yeah, thought that was strange. Especially since the base clock on the 1600x is higher than the 1700x. Actually, scratch that, 1600x is 3,3 ghz and 1700x is 3.4.

That's what the initial rumors suggested but:

 

[Steel]

That's what the initial rumors suggested but:

Ah, then the MSI manual makes absolutely no sense.

 

[Hazaro]

I want Ryzen 5 benchesssssssssssss

 

[PnCIa]

I want Ryzen 5 benchesssssssssssss

We will have to wait for reliable R5 benches for quite some time. But we can try to extrapolate singlecore performance once R7 hits.

 

[DieH@rd]

http://wccftech.com/intel-amd-price-war-ryzen-processors/

Intel Core i7-6950X ($1599 US) – $300 Price Cut
Intel Core i7-6900K ($999 US) – $200 Price Cut
Intel Core i7-6850K ($549 US) – $150 Price Cut
Intel Core i7-6800K ($359 US) – $140 Price Cut
Intel Core i7-5820K ($319 US) – $100 Price Cut
Intel Core i7-7700K ($299 US) – $80 Price Cut
Intel Core i7-6700K ($259 US) – $140 Price Cut
Intel Core i7-4790K ($279 US) – $90 Price Cut
Intel Core i7-7700 ($289 US) – $50 Price Cut
Intel Core i7-6700 (259 US) – $90 Price Cut
Intel Core i5-7600K ($199 US) – $70 Price Cut
Intel Core i5-6600K ($179 US) – $$90 Price Cut
Intel Core i5-4690K ($189 US) – $70 Price Cut
Intel Core i5-7500 ($189 US) – $30 Price Cut
Intel Core i5-6500 ($179 US) – $50 Price Cut
Intel Core i5-4590 ($159 US) – $60 Price Cut
Intel Core i3-7350K ($159 US) – $20 Price Cut
Intel Core i3-7100 ($114 US) – $15 Price Cut
Intel Core i3-6100 ($109 US) – $20 Price Cut
Intel G4400 ($49.99 US) – $20 Price Cut
Intel G3258 ($49.99 US) – $27 Price Cut
"Several CPUs also come with a further $30 savings promotion when bundled with a compatible motherboard."
http://www.microcenter.com/category/4294966995,4294964566/Intel-Processors

 

[Hazaro]

Best confirmation it's the real deal.
*And that's what I get for not keeping track of MC pricing past Ivy

 

[sunshine and gasoline]

Kek @ Intel. Hoping for AMD to do well with Ryzen.

 

[Deleted member 59090]

Ah, then the MSI manual makes absolutely no sense.

There's supposed to be more than one 6core cpu and the manual might've been written before AMD decided to up the clocks on 1600x.

http://wccftech.com/intel-amd-price-war-ryzen-processors/

Afaik Microcenter had these prices for a while now.

 

[shandy706]

Intel and those insane markups. They're the Apple of CPUs.

 

[jediyoshi]

Afaik Microcenter had these prices for a while now.

They're also in store deals, Frys' deals are nowhere near those 😢

 

[Papacheeks]

Well I guess this is kinda sorta maybe confirmation that Ryzen won't OC as well as Broadwell/Skylake/Kabylake (not that it should come as any surprise). From MSI's manual:




Same feature for Broadwell-E and Skylake/Kabylake:

Also note what it shows in that manual are 8,6, and 4 core and I would assume they are talking about the 6-core/12 thread, and 4 core- 8 thread. More threads means not going to overclock as well because of voltage, and the heat it will produce. But a 6 core with a easy overclock to 4.0 with one dial turn is going to be nice.

 

[Vipu]

Intel Core i7-6900K ($999 US) – $200 Price Cut

Only?
Still not even close to amd...

 

[Oachkatzlschwoaf]

Intel and those insane markups. They're the Apple of CPUs.

Who can blame them?

 

[Insane Metal]

And that, folks, is why competition in such market is always good.

Edit: nevermind, I'm dumb.

 

[Paragon]

Also note what it shows in that manual are 8,6, and 4 core and I would assume they are talking about the 6-core/12 thread, and 4 core- 8 thread. More threads means not going to overclock as well because of voltage, and the heat it will produce. But a 6 core with a easy overclock to 4.0 with one dial turn is going to be nice.

That's not necessarily true since the chips are binned.
The 6-core chips are essentially failed 8-cores with two disabled - which is likely a factor in why they are not shipping right away.
The quad-cores have one CCX instead of two, but heat is usually not the limiting factor for 'sensible' overclocks these days.

There's a limit to how much voltage you can use safely if you expect to keep that CPU for a long time.
I could probably have pushed my 2500K to 5GHz if I decided to exceed Intel's recommended maximum voltage, but it's unlikely that I would still be using it six years later if I had done that. Instead, this CPU is only stable up to 4.5GHz.
Temperature was not an issue. It never exceeds 60C under full load, so additional cooling wouldn't make a difference.
The only way that I'd be able to push the clockspeed higher would be to increase the voltage beyond safe limits.

Now we don't know what the situation is with Ryzen, but I see nothing to suggest that the lower core chips are going to overclock to higher speeds, or that you'll be able to push them to something like 4.5GHz on all cores with safe voltages.
It would be great if you could though.

Do CPUs like the the dual-core i3-7350K overclock much better than a quad-core i7-7700K?
I honestly don't know the answer to that, but I would be surprised if they did.

Intel and those insane markups. They're the Apple of CPUs.

You should see how much Apple marks up Intel CPUs based on their list price.
Apple were charging something like $1000 more than Intel's list price to upgrade to the fastest CPU in the Mac Pro.

 

[StaSeb]

http://wccftech.com/intel-amd-price-war-ryzen-processors/

Intel Core i7-6950X ($1599 US) – $300 Price Cut
Intel Core i7-6900K ($999 US) – $200 Price Cut
Intel Core i7-6850K ($549 US) – $150 Price Cut
Intel Core i7-6800K ($359 US) – $140 Price Cut
Intel Core i7-5820K ($319 US) – $100 Price Cut
Intel Core i7-7700K ($299 US) – $80 Price Cut
Intel Core i7-6700K ($259 US) – $140 Price Cut
Intel Core i7-4790K ($279 US) – $90 Price Cut
Intel Core i7-7700 ($289 US) – $50 Price Cut
Intel Core i7-6700 (259 US) – $90 Price Cut
Intel Core i5-7600K ($199 US) – $70 Price Cut
Intel Core i5-6600K ($179 US) – $$90 Price Cut
Intel Core i5-4690K ($189 US) – $70 Price Cut
Intel Core i5-7500 ($189 US) – $30 Price Cut
Intel Core i5-6500 ($179 US) – $50 Price Cut
Intel Core i5-4590 ($159 US) – $60 Price Cut
Intel Core i3-7350K ($159 US) – $20 Price Cut
Intel Core i3-7100 ($114 US) – $15 Price Cut
Intel Core i3-6100 ($109 US) – $20 Price Cut
Intel G4400 ($49.99 US) – $20 Price Cut
Intel G3258 ($49.99 US) – $27 Price Cut
"Several CPUs also come with a further $30 savings promotion when bundled with a compatible motherboard."
http://www.microcenter.com/category/4294966995,4294964566/Intel-Processors

Cool, everybody wins. Competition is good for consumers.

 

[NeOak]

Intel Core i7-6900K ($999 US) – $200 Price Cut

Only?
Still not even close to amd...

That's Microcenter selling it at cost.

And that, folks, is why competition in such market is always good.

Cool, everybody wins. Competition is good for consumers.

It's ONE retailer. Microcenter always has those prices.

 

[NeOak]

http://wccftech.com/intel-amd-price-war-ryzen-processors/

Intel Core i7-6950X ($1599 US) – $300 Price Cut
Intel Core i7-6900K ($999 US) – $200 Price Cut
Intel Core i7-6850K ($549 US) – $150 Price Cut
Intel Core i7-6800K ($359 US) – $140 Price Cut
Intel Core i7-5820K ($319 US) – $100 Price Cut
Intel Core i7-7700K ($299 US) – $80 Price Cut
Intel Core i7-6700K ($259 US) – $140 Price Cut
Intel Core i7-4790K ($279 US) – $90 Price Cut
Intel Core i7-7700 ($289 US) – $50 Price Cut
Intel Core i7-6700 (259 US) – $90 Price Cut
Intel Core i5-7600K ($199 US) – $70 Price Cut
Intel Core i5-6600K ($179 US) – $$90 Price Cut
Intel Core i5-4690K ($189 US) – $70 Price Cut
Intel Core i5-7500 ($189 US) – $30 Price Cut
Intel Core i5-6500 ($179 US) – $50 Price Cut
Intel Core i5-4590 ($159 US) – $60 Price Cut
Intel Core i3-7350K ($159 US) – $20 Price Cut
Intel Core i3-7100 ($114 US) – $15 Price Cut
Intel Core i3-6100 ($109 US) – $20 Price Cut
Intel G4400 ($49.99 US) – $20 Price Cut
Intel G3258 ($49.99 US) – $27 Price Cut
"Several CPUs also come with a further $30 savings promotion when bundled with a compatible motherboard."
http://www.microcenter.com/category/4294966995,4294964566/Intel-Processors

It's like they finally found out Microcenter sells CPUs cheap, and has done it for years.

But it's WCCFT, can't expect more.

LOL @ the ones thinking it's a price cut by Intel.

 

[HarryDemeanor]

It's about time the mainstream learns about MicroCenter.

 

[StaSeb]

That's Microcenter selling it at cost.

It's ONE retailer. Microcenter always has those prices.

argh... did not notice the source before posting. Would love to see some consumer-friendly move by intel in the long run, Being it a new 6-core flagship in their consumer segment or with a cheaper entry into their x99-platform. I really hope that anyone planning to build a PC this year benefits from AMDs SKUs - even if he chooses Intel.

But man, are hardware-news a shitshow right now, The ammount of hype, speculation, over-emphasis on certain info, over-exaggeration, clickbait and shitposts is insane.

Loving it, In a way, Reminds me of the blissful months before a console launch..

 

[PdotMichael]

Right now there is no reason for Intel to react. Doing anything before release of Ryzen would only create more hype for AMD and Intel still controls the OEM market with AMD having nothing in portfolio for it.

 

[Insane Metal]

That's Microcenter selling it at cost.





It's ONE retailer. Microcenter always has those prices.

Oh I see. K then

 

[TC McQueen]

It's like they finally found out Microcenter sells CPUs cheap, and has done it for years.

But it's WCCFT, can't expect more.

To be fair, Microcenter is a super small regional tech retailer that only folks like us know about, mostly because we want the deals but can't get them.

 

[Anton668]

To be fair, Microcenter is a super small regional tech retailer that only folks like us know about, mostly because we want the deals but can't get them.

super small, yes. regional, no.

Welcome to Micro Center - 25 Locations Nationwide

so, sure seeing as how the best deals are in store only, not many can benefit

 

[JeremyEtcetera]

Those new prices...I'm glad I waited to upgrade. Even if it's one store I'm betting soon others will follow.

Keep up the pressure AMD.

 

[Anton668]

Those new prices...I'm glad I waited to upgrade. Even if it's one store I'm betting soon others will follow.

Keep up the pressure AMD.

dont hold your breath. as many have already stated, its microcenter, this happens all the time with them. its nothing new or special. this is not newsworthy.

 

[Sectorseven]

Does Intel have brand loyalty?

Like, are there people who will swear by it the same way they will fight for Playstation or Microsoft?

 

[exmachina64]

Does Intel have brand loyalty?

Like, are there people who will swear by it the same way they will fight for Playstation or Microsoft?

Yes.

 

[What A Time To Be Alive]

http://wccftech.com/intel-amd-price-war-ryzen-processors/

Intel Core i7-6950X ($1599 US) – $300 Price Cut
Intel Core i7-6900K ($999 US) – $200 Price Cut
Intel Core i7-6850K ($549 US) – $150 Price Cut
Intel Core i7-6800K ($359 US) – $140 Price Cut
Intel Core i7-5820K ($319 US) – $100 Price Cut
Intel Core i7-7700K ($299 US) – $80 Price Cut
Intel Core i7-6700K ($259 US) – $140 Price Cut
Intel Core i7-4790K ($279 US) – $90 Price Cut
Intel Core i7-7700 ($289 US) – $50 Price Cut
Intel Core i7-6700 (259 US) – $90 Price Cut
Intel Core i5-7600K ($199 US) – $70 Price Cut
Intel Core i5-6600K ($179 US) – $$90 Price Cut
Intel Core i5-4690K ($189 US) – $70 Price Cut
Intel Core i5-7500 ($189 US) – $30 Price Cut
Intel Core i5-6500 ($179 US) – $50 Price Cut
Intel Core i5-4590 ($159 US) – $60 Price Cut
Intel Core i3-7350K ($159 US) – $20 Price Cut
Intel Core i3-7100 ($114 US) – $15 Price Cut
Intel Core i3-6100 ($109 US) – $20 Price Cut
Intel G4400 ($49.99 US) – $20 Price Cut
Intel G3258 ($49.99 US) – $27 Price Cut
"Several CPUs also come with a further $30 savings promotion when bundled with a compatible motherboard."
http://www.microcenter.com/category/4294966995,4294964566/Intel-Processors

This doesnt mean price cut. Microcenter has been had these prices. No other retailers have changed their prices.

 

[V_Arnold]

I am out of the loop on CPU tech. Intel's dominance made it boring.

Is Ryzen good?

Its very good. Some people are in damage control mode (ie "lets wait for some MORE confirmations"), but at the end of the day, if independent benchmarks would show a lesser CPU than the ones we have seen in the countless leaks and tests so far, AMD would face the biggest scandal it has ever faced. So obviously, it is *very* good. And costs way less than the rival Intel CPUs.

 

[crazy monkey]

http://wccftech.com/intel-amd-price-war-ryzen-processors/

Intel Core i7-6950X ($1599 US) – $300 Price Cut
Intel Core i7-6900K ($999 US) – $200 Price Cut
Intel Core i7-6850K ($549 US) – $150 Price Cut
Intel Core i7-6800K ($359 US) – $140 Price Cut
Intel Core i7-5820K ($319 US) – $100 Price Cut
Intel Core i7-7700K ($299 US) – $80 Price Cut
Intel Core i7-6700K ($259 US) – $140 Price Cut
Intel Core i7-4790K ($279 US) – $90 Price Cut
Intel Core i7-7700 ($289 US) – $50 Price Cut
Intel Core i7-6700 (259 US) – $90 Price Cut
Intel Core i5-7600K ($199 US) – $70 Price Cut
Intel Core i5-6600K ($179 US) – $$90 Price Cut
Intel Core i5-4690K ($189 US) – $70 Price Cut
Intel Core i5-7500 ($189 US) – $30 Price Cut
Intel Core i5-6500 ($179 US) – $50 Price Cut
Intel Core i5-4590 ($159 US) – $60 Price Cut
Intel Core i3-7350K ($159 US) – $20 Price Cut
Intel Core i3-7100 ($114 US) – $15 Price Cut
Intel Core i3-6100 ($109 US) – $20 Price Cut
Intel G4400 ($49.99 US) – $20 Price Cut
Intel G3258 ($49.99 US) – $27 Price Cut
"Several CPUs also come with a further $30 savings promotion when bundled with a compatible motherboard."
http://www.microcenter.com/category/4294966995,4294964566/Intel-Processors

Can't they name things less confusing way.

 

[ShadowFox08]

Is this AMD's way of sticking it to Nintendo for not partnering with them this Gen? March 3rd makes it obvious.

 

[PdotMichael]

Is this AMD's way of sticking it to Nintendo for not partnering with them this Gen? March 3rd makes it obvious.

Yeah, the eternal conflict between a new Zelda and better performance in Photoshop and Maya.

 

[kabel]

Is this AMD's way of sticking it to Nintendo for not partnering with them this Gen? March 3rd makes it obvious.

What?

 

[NeOak]

Is this AMD's way of sticking it to Nintendo for not partnering with them this Gen? March 3rd makes it obvious.

AMD doesn't have a Tegra equivalent because they sold the ATI Imageon line and tech to Qualcomm years ago.

So, no.