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Angela Merkel condemns 'putting up walls' during Mexico visit

Occam

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The German chancellor, Angela Merkel, said on Saturday that putting up walls would not solve problems due to immigration, challenging the vision of Donald Trump during her visit to Mexico.

Speaking in Mexico City alongside the Mexican president, Enrique Peña Nieto, Merkel said history showed only when empires have gotten on well with their neighbors have migration pressures been resolved in a way that ensured stability.

Putting up walls and cutting oneself off will not solve the problem," said Merkel, who has come under political pressure in her own country for opening its borders to more than one million refugees since 2015.

The key was to improve living standards and opportunities in afflicted areas, she noted.

More at the link.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/jun/10/angela-merkel-mexico-border-wall

Very good, time for more international leaders to call out the populist orange liar.

Build a wall around this thread if old.
 
The key was to improve living standards and opportunities in afflicted areas, she noted.

Even if that means military action against brutal dictators, Merkel? Too bad she didn't take her own advice 3 years ago. Probably wouldn't have ignited a rightist movement.
 

eizarus

Banned
I love that Trump is probably seething at a having a powerful woman who isn't intimidated by him at all call him out.
Especially with her pretty much being the leader of the free world after Obama. From Muslim black guy to a woman. Alt right must be triggered and I love it 😂
 

Mivey

Member
Even if that means military action against brutal dictators, Merkel? Too bad she didn't take her own advice 3 years ago. Probably wouldn't have ignited a rightist movement.
Are you talking about Syria? Because, I really don't get what you mean.
The Syrian Civil War stem mainly from the Arab Spring, nothing that Germany instigated. As for military intervention, I don't understand how you can look at the geopolitical clusterfuck of Russia and China covering for Syria in the United Nations Security council and think that "yeah, Germany should just unilaterally march in there, that will fix it".
 

Xando

Member
Germans, make the right choice in your elections, we need her to stand up to Trump.

After 1.5 million refugees and 12 years in office she was back at her highest approval rating ever last week.

Merkel will win, depending on how much the SPD fuck up she might even be able to govern with the FDP.
 

Patrick S.

Banned
Even if that means military action against brutal dictators, Merkel? Too bad she didn't take her own advice 3 years ago. Probably wouldn't have ignited a rightist movement.

Sir, I know you are a war veteran and all, and I respect you, but can you please explain what the situation in Syria has to do with Mexico?
 

RM8

Member
Few people realize this, but in the past, Germany did unrepairable damage to Mexico that can still be felt to this day
Northern Mexican music is a crime against humanity.

But on a serious note - even though Peña Nieto is a clown of a president, I must say I was legit surprised when he said "lol we're not paying for crap" to Trump, and at least he seems to be in good terms with non-joke world leaders. So it's something! :p
 

KDR_11k

Member
Germans, make the right choice in your elections, we need her to stand up to Trump.

No matter who we elect (let's be reasonable here, it's going to be Schulz or Merkel, the AfD's nonsense is never going to get an absolute majority) they will stand up to Trump. The electorate here hates Trump and politicians know it. Similar to why politicians aren't going to treat the brexiting UK nicely or forgive the Greek debt, the electorate does not want that to happen.
 
Good on her !

Germans, make the right choice in your elections, we need her to stand up to Trump.

She'll win.
Schulz is crashing all over the place and his potential coalition partner (our far left nutjob party) just had a terrible, terrible party conference.
 

Cirion

Banned
Schulz is crashing all over the place and his potential coalition partner (our far left nutjob party) just had a terrible, terrible party conference.

You have no idea what "far left" even is and your attempt at declaring people insane you politically disagree with is disgusting. Die Linke is an ordinary, social-democratic left-wing party with some socialist holdovers that don't play any significant role anymore. You are just one of the people who fall into the trap of declaring completely normal leftwing-policies "far-left" because Greens and SPD have shifted hard to the right over the last ten to fifteen years (The Greens are now a eco-conservative party with some socially liberal positions) Especially, no, just because the Schulz-Train briefly happened because he spoke about social justice without ever being concrete, the SPD is still the very same hollowed-out, pointless, CDU-light centrist party that has no idea why it even exists anymore.
Die Linke is no more leftwing than Corbyn or Sanders are. Whenever they are in government, like in Thürningen, Brandenburg or Berlin, they actual do very solid work, especially in Berlin where, thank god, the corrupt and incompetent Berlin-CDU finally burned and crashed for good and for a change the government implements policies that doesn't just benefit the landlord and property lobby.

Their stance on Russia is dumb and Sarah Wagenknecht sucks, but can mainly attributed to older, geriatric folks from the West-Germany factions of the party that hopefully die out in time, and Wagenknechts questionable strategy to turn voters away from the AFD. Katja Kipping for example has a reasonable stance on Russia.

Ultimately I would love to have a new leftwing party without the baggage this one has, but there are no signs of a new party anywhere, and right now would just further divide the left.

In general, could we please not fall into the trap of declaring everyone a saint who isn't as bad as Trump? Merkels still leads a economically and fiscally conservative party with no interest in a substantial reform of the EU and its institutions, has a hard-on for austerity, still is against gay marriage and struck the disgusting, inhuman deal with Erdogans terror regime. And most important, in Germany, YOU DO NOT VOTE FOR THE CHANCELLOR, you vote for the party. And substantial amounts of the CDU are far more to the right than Merkel and her team, not even speaking of the racists from the CSU. The party will without a doubt shift to the right again after Merkel is done.
 

kess

Member
Die Linke would be a lot more palatable if they weren't still trying to block inquiries into Stasi crimes.
 

darkinstinct

...lacks reading comprehension.
The wall is nonsense, but why should there not be an actual border? The EU would be pretty annoyed if their external borders looked like the US-Mexico border.

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