LordOcidax
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Ign.... Ign, what happen to you?
IGN dude is overeacting imo. But on the other hand. Angry Joe is fucking terrible, he's one of those youtube personalities that I just don't get how people want to watch. He's extremely unlikable in his videoes. And apparently also acts like a 14 year old in twitter arguments.
Wait. You come in here and post all this and you don't even share a link?! This is a worse offense than this manbaby twitter fight! =(
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None of that changes the way he acted on Twitter. Which wasn't anywhere close to being mature.I agree going in detail about games he reviews is something only a 14 year old does. He should do a short 3 paragraph review and slap a 9 down without going into detail about the said score
So I gather Angry Joe doesn't know what a campaign is?
Correction: Chuck Norris wins every internet argument.No one wins in an internet argument.
I dont get this obsession with holding Youtube personalities to some sort of Journalistic integrity. Joe doesn't have to be professional or classy or anything else, he just has to be who he is. It is the reason people watch this stuff. Because the character/personality resonates with them much more than some snarky/combative to their viewer/readership games journalist. If you don't like him or his demeanor or he didn't call you sir while adjusting his monocle after meeting him or whatever other problem you have with him you are free to avoid his youtube page and his twitter as well.
The people harping on Joe are probably the same stiff shirts that hated Joel McHale on that vgas or whatever that was. This whole industry and everything involved in it is too PR driven and personally I like when someone comes in and just says whatever they want. Fuck being professional.
Am I reading the correct tweets? I thought he handled it well. The argument devolved a bit between them, but honestly, you can only make the same argument so many times while another disregards your statements before you want to punch your monitor.None of that changes the way he acted on Twitter. Which wasn't anywhere close to being mature.
Oh snap!neither does Respawn
I have no opinion on Angry Joe, as I'm not a huge fan, but I agree youtube personalities like Angry Joe are not exempt from having integrity. It's ridiculous to think otherwise.That's also the reason why many don't respect him. Sure he can be the angry guy but there's this thing called tact and while neither side showed any, he shouldn't be exempt because he makes his money off YouTube.
Well, it's a good thing Joe did not claim IGN gave the game a 9.0, then. Direct transcript:8.9 does not equal 9.0. So that is factually inaccurate. That's just the fact. Whether you think it's stupid that they have a .1 scale or not, it doesn't equal the same thing no matter how you slice it. It's close, but it's not the same. End of story.
This is the point a lot of people seem to be missing. How Joe acted wasn't wrong because he's supposed to be some kind of journalist and have more professionalism, how he acted was wrong because having a snarky attitude and calling people names isn't the way any adult should be acting. Just because it's persona or schtick someone uses in videos doesn't mean they get to go around being rude to people. He just comes off as extremely immature.That's also the reason why many don't respect him. Sure he can be the angry guy but there's this thing called tact and while neither side showed any, he shouldn't be exempt because he makes his money off YouTube.
How are calling someone a self important baby, an idiot, asking how they still have their job, and asking if they want a cookie handling the situation well?Am I reading the correct tweets? I thought he handled it well. The argument devolved a bit between them, but honestly, you can only make the same argument so many times while another disregards your statements before you want to punch your monitor.
True, you can't say that 8.9 is 9.0. But you can say it's 9.I don't disagree with your point, but the reality is that if 8.9 and 9.0 are different on the IGN scale, you can't say IGN gave it a 9.0. You just can't. That's wrong.
Because as far as I'm concerned, Joe had made plenty of valid points by the time name calling started (if being called a baby can be considered name calling). And the responses back were all shit. At some point, I think Joe realized fuck it, we're getting nowhere and the name calling began. I would've been frustrated too and lost it much sooner.This is the point a lot of people seem to be missing. How Joe acted wasn't wrong because he's supposed to be some kind of journalist and have more professionalism, how he acted was wrong because having a snarky attitude and calling people names isn't the way any adult should be acting. Just because it's persona or schtick someone uses in videos doesn't mean they get to go around being rude to people. He just comes off as extremely immature.
How are calling someone a self important baby, an idiot, asking how they still have their job, and asking if they want a cookie handling the situation well?
True, you can't say that 8.9 is 9.0. But you can say it's 9.
In all honesty, I think the worst part is that Stapleton comes off like he was looking for a fight. If he truly gave a shit, he should've written a response to Joe's review on IGN. Or hell, even a personal blog. But twitter? Come on, son.
30 hours of playtime still shits all over average AAA games, for all the bellyaching about "lack of content".
No one is saying Twitter is going anywhere. But come on...140 character limit? That seems like a terrible avenue for calling someone out. So if he wasn't looking for a fight, at minimum he chose a shitty place for a good, legitimate argument.Looking for a fight? No. Calling someone out on a wrongdoing? Yes.
You think this Stapleton guy would seriously write an article about AJ's review, which in no way would benefit IGN in the least bit. If you're going to call someone out, nowadays it's going to be on Twitter so let's stop acting like this is beneath us. Twitter's not going anywhere any time soon.
Understandable, but it seems ridiculous. Either call the game an 8 or a 9. Cut out the decimals. Or maybe it is IGNs way of being vague to allow easy flip flopping.
No, but you can say they are effectively the same thing; and in many peoples eyes it is. Unscientific numerical's that close together can very understandably can be considered nominally no different.
I'm at 180 hours and am as happy as I was with the first ten. This shit is subjective. Something the cretinous, feature-checklist mentality attempts to conceal, as if feature quality emerges from quantity.
Another aside:
The line about 'the couch and Xbox Live being the ecosystem it's best enjoyed in' is comedy.
seems weird that people are siding with IGN on this
Seems strange anyone would take either side in this.
Then ignore him or block him before you have to resort to that. It's not that hard to diffuse the situation, especially on the internet. If someone is being an asshole to you, being an asshole back isn't going to solve anything. It's just going to make both people look like assholes. It's not like anyone even "won" the argument by the end anyway.Because as far as I'm concerned, Joe had made plenty of valid points by the time name calling started (if being called a baby can be considered name calling). And the responses back were all shit. At some point, I think Joe realized fuck it, we're getting nowhere and the name calling began. I would've been frustrated too and lost it much sooner.
And yeah, I can agree. Joe should've ignored or at some point moved on.Then ignore him or block him before you have to resort to that. It's not that hard to diffuse the situation, especially on the internet. If someone is being an asshole to you, being an asshole back isn't going to solve anything. It's just going to make both people look like assholes. It's not like anyone even "won" the argument by the end anyway.
I stopped reading a great NPR article titled "Scientists Spot A Planet That Looks Like 'Earth's Cousin'" to read the Twitter tirade between these two dudes...and now, I feel dirtier and more ashamed of myself than I did that one time after masturbating to that one porn, I don't want to mention.
Now I am going to go back to reading that NPR, NASA article to feel better about myself.
8.9 does not equal 9.0. So that is factually inaccurate. That's just the fact. Whether you think it's stupid that they have a .1 scale or not, it doesn't equal the same thing no matter how you slice it. It's close, but it's not the same. End of story.
But the argument is really, really stupid.
Ign.... Ign, what happen to you?
I'm at 180 hours and am as happy as I was with the first ten. This shit is subjective. Something the cretinous, feature-checklist mentality attempts to conceal, as if feature quality emerges from quantity.
Another aside:
The line about 'the couch and Xbox Live being the ecosystem it's best enjoyed in' is comedy.
Joe got the ad campaign and the Titanfall game campaign confused. The IGN review does indeed criticize that part of the game.
The argument that follows the IGN dude saying they didn't give it a 9.0 is stupid. But he isn't wrong. They gave it an 8.9.
I can't understand how anyone could side anywhere else on that, regardless of how you feel about IGN as a whole, the 100 pt review scale, or anything else in the world.
It is possible that some difference can be very minute, exist in principle only, or made for emphasis, in which case the fallacy could be debatable.
Looking for a fight? No. Calling someone out on a wrongdoing? Yes.
You think this Stapleton guy would seriously write an article about AJ's review, which in no way would benefit IGN in the least bit. If you're going to call someone out, nowadays it's going to be on Twitter so let's stop acting like this is beneath us. Twitter's not going anywhere any time soon.
I'm at 180 hours and am as happy as I was with the first ten. This shit is subjective. Something the cretinous, feature-checklist mentality attempts to conceal, as if feature quality emerges from quantity.
Another aside:
The line about 'the couch and Xbox Live being the ecosystem it's best enjoyed in' is comedy.
How does your argument help against anyone who says that he does indeed act like a twat on twitter?I agree going in detail about games he reviews is something only a 14 year old does. He should do a short 3 paragraph review and slap a 9 down without going into detail about the said score
Stapleton is 100% wrong because his whole argument hinges on implying Joe said IGN gave the game 9.0. He's arguing a strawman all the way. Joe immediately pointed out that he plainly did not say such a thing, but Stapleton doesn't seem to understand English - or maybe he does, because he instantly changes subject every time he gets shut down, only to return to the original subject a moment later as if nothing had been said. Now that I read the exchange again, he's actually looking more slimy than stupid.The argument that follows the IGN dude saying they didn't give it a 9.0 is stupid. But he isn't wrong. They gave it an 8.9.
Another aside:
The line about 'the couch and Xbox Live being the ecosystem it's best enjoyed in' is comedy.
8.9 does not equal 9.0. So that is factually inaccurate. That's just the fact. Whether you think it's stupid that they have a .1 scale or not, it doesn't equal the same thing no matter how you slice it. It's close, but it's not the same. End of story.
But the argument is really, really stupid.