My cousin owns an AK47 he got through...well not so legal means. He offered to get one for me for dirt cheap but I would much rather own a legally purchased handgun or shotgun. I have a little money saved up so I've been thinking about it recently.
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RapidCancel
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missbreedsiddx said:
What are you looking to get and use it for? How cheap was the AK? AK's are generally pretty cheap through legal means too. Nowhere near the prices of AR's. aimsurplus.com has one right now for about $380.
MidnightRider
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You can call me a gun nut...........
And there here is my HUNTING collection.
And there here is my HUNTING collection.
MidnightRider
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Zyzyxxz said:
It's been in the family...........
RapidCancel said:
He got his AK for $200. He ended up selling it to a friend and just buying a frame. It's come in handy too, some punk was trying to break into his car and he came out with the frame covered in a blanket. Guy got a look at what he seemed to be carrying and took off like a bat out of hell.
I would likely purchase a pistol, I would use it for shooting range (I enjoy shooting), home protection secondly since it's unlikely i'd need it but there has been incidents over the years in my area of kids breaking in and looting/destroying homes during the winter when they think the occupants aren't home. And thirdly for when shit goes to hell in a handbag and people are eating each other and I need to fend off the post apocalyptic cannibals. :lol
MidnightRider
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^^^^ to the CHEAP AK's comment.
You are buying the shit ones that the arabs are using over in the middle east.
Russian or chinese(poly tech) > *****
I look forward to the day.
Should I make a GunGAF thread? Start the thread with my previous post.
You are buying the shit ones that the arabs are using over in the middle east.
Russian or chinese(poly tech) > *****
Rokk said:
I look forward to the day.
Should I make a GunGAF thread? Start the thread with my previous post.
RapidCancel
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MidnightRider - I'm so envious. How much was the AK?
How much are you looking to spend? Two of the most popular choices would be Glock and the XD. Not too expensive and very reliable.
missbreedsiddx said:
How much are you looking to spend? Two of the most popular choices would be Glock and the XD. Not too expensive and very reliable.
MidnightRider
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I payed 600 for mine with everything you see with it in that picture + more
(I know a gun dealer in other words)
(I know a gun dealer in other words)
JavaMava said:
Canadian PAL
That wiki explains it pretty well.
You can only take restricted firearms to approved ranges. You will probably never get a Prohibited. The only way I've heard this happening is by Grandfathering, and apparently that is even sticky now (say your great uncle dies and has a machine gun from WW2 in the basement).
As far as any licensing questions go (for Canada), check out Canadian Gun Nutz.
Atenhaus said:
Federal.
RCMP - Firearms
Gun politics in Canada
Lionheart1827
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MidnightRider said:
Is that an M14 in there? Nice collection, and of course your avatar says it all. I love it.
MidnightRider
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Lionheart1827 said:Is that an M14 in there? Nice collection, and of course your avatar says it all. I love it.
It's a Mini-14.
Good eye
Lionheart1827
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MidnightRider said:It's a Mini-14.
Good eye
Shit, I dont know why I put M14, I meant mini 14. :lol
And I could easily tell due to the mini14s slightly curved magazine as opposed to the M14/M1a's straight mags.
Speaking of M1a's, I just received 400rds of 7.62x51 that I ordered, now I'm set for awhile in that department. Now I just need to get some more .270 for my bolt action and I'll be good for long time.
This was at the Fort Campbell PX, not even a gun show. Anyway i never owned a XD so I can't compare grip, but it does come with 3 interchangeable grips. I don't have fairly large hands but it fits perfectly, and I have had no issues keeping a firm grip when firing.RapidCancel said:
Nostalgic Nightmare
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I've always wanted an AR 15 but it's becoming clear that I can't afford it.
I'm starting to look at AKs but I really don't know what variant to get.
All I know is I want something thats cheaper to shoot if possible, but I don't think 7.62x39 is that much cheaper than .223.
I hear the 5.45x39 is cheap and as accurate as .223
Also I know I'm crazy but I love them in plum furniture.
I can't decide........
I'm starting to look at AKs but I really don't know what variant to get.
All I know is I want something thats cheaper to shoot if possible, but I don't think 7.62x39 is that much cheaper than .223.
I hear the 5.45x39 is cheap and as accurate as .223
Also I know I'm crazy but I love them in plum furniture.
I can't decide........
Lionheart1827
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Nostalgic Nightmare said:I've always wanted an AR 15 but it's becoming clear that I can't afford it.
I'm starting to look at AKs but I really don't know what variant to get.
All I know is I want something thats cheaper to shoot if possible, but I don't think 7.62x39 is that much cheaper than .223.
I hear the 5.45x39 is cheap and as accurate as .223
Also I know I'm crazy but I love them in plum furniture.
I can't decide........
Looks nice! Its kinda hard to say price difference of .223 compared to 7.62. Not sure about 7.62x39, but like I said I just picked up 400rds of 7.62x51 NATO(.308) from midway usa at around 230 bucks I think. Not too bad.
Mr Sandman
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I noticed too.MidnightRider said:It's a Mini-14.
Good eye
My dad has one. Always a favorite of mine when shooting his guns.
He gave me his Winchester Model 1894 30-30 (he got when he was young) 3 years ago. I feel so honored.
Silent Death
lemme get one or two licks
Cooter said:
Uhh... I hope not.
Lionheart1827
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Zeke said:
Do it! Why would you fight the temptation? Those are very manly guns and they have a very satisfying shot.
I fired one a few weeks ago and they're awesome. They are so cheap and should be in every enthusiasts collection.
MisterNoisy
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Zeke said:
If you're buying a Mosin online, check out AIM Surplus. They've got a bunch of the standard models for $80 and the hex-receiver ones for $10 more - accessories included (shipping is $20 or so). I'm a bit peevish that I missed out on their last shipment of CZ-82's.
EDIT:
Just picked up a Savage 93R17 BTVS. Waiting on MidwayUSA to deliver my scope and rings - hopefully they'll be here in time for me to take it to the range next weekend:
Lionheart1827
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MisterNoisy said:If you're buying a Mosin online, check out AIM Surplus. They've got a bunch of the standard models for $80 and the hex-receiver ones for $10 more - accessories included (shipping is $20 or so). I'm a bit peevish that I missed out on their last shipment of CZ-82's.
EDIT:
Just picked up a Savage 93R17 BTVS. Waiting on MidwayUSA to deliver my scope and rings - hopefully that they'll be here in time for me to take it to the range next weekend:
Sweetness, thumbhole stock eh? What kind of wood is that?
RustyNails
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For gun owners I always wanted to ask this question: How accurate are AKs and M16s in videogames? Which game do you think best represent the weapon?
In Uncharted 2, M16 deals more damage than AK 47. But in Left 4 Dead 2, AK does more than M16. I know that getting shot even once by either gun can be fatal. But why the discrepancy? Same with Desert Eagle vs glock.
In Uncharted 2, M16 deals more damage than AK 47. But in Left 4 Dead 2, AK does more than M16. I know that getting shot even once by either gun can be fatal. But why the discrepancy? Same with Desert Eagle vs glock.
MisterNoisy
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Lionheart1827 said:
It's a laminated wood stock - not sure what type of wood the laminations are actually made of, though. Since I'm only punching holes in paper, the extra weight of the thumbhole stock and bull barrel aren't a huge deal.
What do you guys think about those new AR15's that come configured for .22LR?
I've been eyeing them for some time and since I don't own any guns but would like to get started I figure for $500-600 I can get started with something that has very affordable ammo.
I've seen the S&W Mp 15-22 and the Colt branded ones both look pretty decent.
I've been eyeing them for some time and since I don't own any guns but would like to get started I figure for $500-600 I can get started with something that has very affordable ammo.
I've seen the S&W Mp 15-22 and the Colt branded ones both look pretty decent.
Lionheart1827
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RustyNails said:
The general consensus is that the AK47 has more power behind the round but the M16 is way more accurate. I remember watching a show on discovery comparing the AK to the M16. The AK with its 7.62 round was able to penetrate through a cinder block while the M16s 5.56 couldnt. However, the AK47 was less accurate with way more recoil. The end result was that the AK was much closer to a machine gun rather than an assault rifle and that no gun was clearly better than the other.
Desert Eagle, if you're talking about the 50 cal, has a lot more power than a Glock, which is normally a 9mm.
Also, check out this quick video I made today using the high speed mode on my camera. I'll probably make another one once I get to the range but for now I only have manual feed and ejections.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLJAlulgBCE
Nostalgic Nightmare
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While a .22 is real cheap to shoot, it might leave you wanting a bit more "oopmh" once you get used to shooting. IF you do go the .22 route, I dont suggest paying $500-600 to do so.
You can find a used .22 rifle for next to nothing. Put all that money towards a real AR or AK and you will be glad you did!
You can find a used .22 rifle for next to nothing. Put all that money towards a real AR or AK and you will be glad you did!
Zyzyxxz said:
Nostalgic Nightmare
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Wow that's a beaut you got yourself there.
MisterNoisy said:If you're buying a Mosin online, check out AIM Surplus. They've got a bunch of the standard models for $80 and the hex-receiver ones for $10 more - accessories included (shipping is $20 or so). I'm a bit peevish that I missed out on their last shipment of CZ-82's.
EDIT:
Just picked up a Savage 93R17 BTVS. Waiting on MidwayUSA to deliver my scope and rings - hopefully that they'll be here in time for me to take it to the range next weekend:
Tornado Condor
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Lionheart1827
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salva said:
Yup thats the vid I was talkin about!
Zyzyxxz said:
Springfield M1A Loaded.
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=158579736
Here is the exact same model I have. As you can see, they sell pretty high. I got lucky and found a private seller that was selling his brand new, with not many rounds through it for 1400. Thats easily a half a grand discount. Dont see that every day.
Its very badass and the construction and quality is top notch.
Tornado Condor
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So do you guys know where i can get a gun permit? Or what i have to do in order to get one? I really want a mosin nagant =]
California here btw.
BTW lionheart, you have some awesome guns
California here btw.
BTW lionheart, you have some awesome guns
Lionheart1827
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salva said:
Thanks, although I think MidnightRiders got a better collection than I do.
As for CA law, they have some pretty crappy restrictions for rifles, although I dont think you need a permit to buy and own a rifle. Pistols you probably do, but rifles I dont think so. The tricky stuff is with AR-15s because they are for the most part modular and you can build them yourself pretty easily. This also opens you up to possibly building a rifle that has illegal specifications in your state. Mosin Nagants SHOULD be fine but I'd try to do a little more research. Hopefully somebody here from CA can help out a little more.
If you're looking for a mosin nagant in your state, the best thing to do is probably go to a gun shop near you and ask if they have any in stock and if they can help you order one in. The good thing about gun shops is they have to follow the guidelines and restrictions so you wont buy an illegal firearm, it just wont happen unless youre really unlucky. Private sales can be risky because you have no idea where the firearm came from originally. The gun could be legal in alabama with a 30round magazine but it wont be in CA and you'll get screwed royally.
Once I'm finished with my hunting license I'll be looking for two or three rifles to suit my needs.
On top of my "want but can't justify the price" list. A 9.3x62 Blaser R93 Professional, with nice optics of course.
On top of my "want but can't justify the price" list. A 9.3x62 Blaser R93 Professional, with nice optics of course.
Tornado Condor
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Thanks for the replies. I will look around gun shops to see what they tell me
You don't need a permit for rifles in CA. For pistols there is a brief quiz. Both have 10 day waiting periods.salva said:
Here is how to have a legal AR/AK in California, to give you a sense of our wonderful laws:
Full chart with appendixes here: http://www.calguns.net/caawid/flowchart.pdf
Calguns is a great resource for California gun owners: www.calguns.net
Tornado Condor
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wow =\
CrazedArabMan
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salva said:
Yeah, California is not that good for guns.
BakedPigeon
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Glad this thread popped up, looks like it hasn't quite been ruined by anti-gun gaffers.
I own a range of firearms from a Remington .25-06 to a 357 Mag. I one day would like an AR-15.
edit - damn old thrad
I own a range of firearms from a Remington .25-06 to a 357 Mag. I one day would like an AR-15.
edit - damn old thrad
Lionheart1827
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BakedPigeon said:
Its ok, we've been keeping it alive for the past 2 weeks or so.
MisterNoisy
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Nostalgic Nightmare said:
Thanks! Only downside is that I won't have any excuses for bad shots. :lol The Savage AccuTrigger is insanely good for a factory unit - no creep or grit and it releases at just over 2.5# - I haven't even adjusted it yet, so I know it can go lighter.
UnluckyKate
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salva said:
This is about the same thing for .22 LR handguns in France.
Now imagine the size of that chart for semi auto AR :lol