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[FyreWulff]

You don't seem to understand how this works. Watergate didn't play out in a day.

Someone will testify to stay out of prison for decades, and all the dominos will fall into place

to put it in hard numbers:

January 1972: Watergate tap/burglary plan put into motion
May 1972: First burglary and tap placement
June 1972: second burglary to cover fixing their taps and the one they got caught for
June 1972: coverup begins

May 1973: congress begins investigation
July 1973: discovery of Nixon's tapes, both Congres and Spec Prosc. try to get them, Nixon refuses

October 1973: Nixon fires a bunch of people until he finds one that will fire the special prosecutor. Panic mode.

During this time the tapes are released slowly.

""He is humorless to the point of being inhumane. He is devious. He is vacillating. He is profane. He is willing to be led. He displays dismaying gaps in knowledge. He is suspicious of his staff. His loyalty is minimal." - Chicago Tribune review of the tapes.

July 1974: Supreme Court rules Nixon has no executive priviledge that allows him to block the tapes

"smoking gun" tape released

August 1974: Nixon resigns


Also fun fact, Nixon secretly testified in front of a grand jury. The tapes from that weren't released until 2011.

 

[Guy.brush]

You know what else happened in 2006? Paul Manafort moved in to live in Trump Tower.

So was he on the floor below or above the Russian money laundering, extortion ring running mobster boss that was seen in a VIP lounge together with Trump at the Moscow 2013 Miss Universe pageant and who was and still is on an Interpol wanted list at the time?

http://abcnews.go.com/US/story-fbi-w...ry?id=46266198

 

[Agentnibs]

At what point do we start accepting the fact that a hostile foreign government has launched and succeeded in attacking our country?
Best case scenario, Trump is a puppet propped up by Putin.
Are we even considered an independent country at that point? In Civ we'd officially be Russian now lol

 

[BigDug13]

to put it in hard numbers:

January 1972: Watergate tap/burglary plan put into motion
May 1972: First burglary and tap placement
June 1972: second burglary to cover fixing their taps and the one they got caught for
June 1972: coverup begins

May 1973: congress begins investigation
July 1973: discovery of Nixon's tapes, both Congres and Spec Prosc. try to get them, Nixon refuses

October 1973: Nixon fires a bunch of people until he finds one that will fire the special prosecutor. Panic mode.

During this time the tapes are released slowly.

""He is humorless to the point of being inhumane. He is devious. He is vacillating. He is profane. He is willing to be led. He displays dismaying gaps in knowledge. He is suspicious of his staff. His loyalty is minimal." - Chicago Tribune review of the tapes.

July 1974: Supreme Court rules Nixon has no executive priviledge that allows him to block the tapes

"smoking gun" tape released

August 1974: Nixon resigns


Also fun fact, Nixon secretly testified in front of a grand jury. The tapes from that weren't released until 2011.

I have to think at this point shit would move a lot quicker. So much more electronic surveillance and technology available to investigators. So much more electronic communications and transactions performed by perpetrators.

 

[Futureman]

I'm SURE it was just a coincidence that Trump, who could have hired literally anyone else, choose a guy who had shady connections with Russians.

 

[Zolo]

I have to think at this point shit would move a lot quicker. So much more electronic surveillance and technology available to investigators. So much more electronic communications and transactions performed by perpetrators.

Plus us simply living in the age where people are able access much more information and tend to want answers more quickly.

 

[Monocle]

A clever ploy by the lamestream media to distract the American public from—*ahem*—HER EMAILS.

We really dodged a bullet in the 2016 election you guys.

 

[KernelPanic]

I have to think at this point shit would move a lot quicker. So much more electronic surveillance and technology available to investigators. So much more electronic communications and transactions performed by perpetrators.

A lot more people involved in this one.

You're also dealing with espionage/counterintelligence. I think Comey said this investigation hasn't been happening long as far as counterintelligence investigations go.

You're dealing with money laundering/hidden payments from foreign governments. The money trail in this one is way more complex.

 

[RPGCrazied]

Him and Stone need to get arrested. I really hope this causes Trump to get removed, but who are we kidding? Republicans won't do shit.

 

[Boylamite]

The only silver lining in all this is opening up the door to a Yaakov Smirnov comeback tour.

 

[Adam Sadler]

This is all amazing in so many different ways smh.

 

[BronsonLee]

I'm starting to think the worst possible thing that could've ever happened to Russia is Trump winning

 

[EdibleKnife]

I'm starting to think the worst possible thing that could've ever happened to Russia is Trump winning

Unless they just wanted an incompetent to destabilize the US government and faith in elections. They've pretty much succeeded and won't see any crippling consequences even if Trump and every one of his grunts ends up in cuffs. Rather, the worst thing that could have happened for Trump's crooked, Russian ass-eating administration was his win.

 

[ivajz]

Don't forget that his daughters texts show that Manafort would be meeting with Trump on a daily basis. "Plotting ", as she put it.

 

[Steejee]

I'm starting to think the worst possible thing that could've ever happened to Russia is Trump winning

My faint silver lining in all this is how badly his winning could backfire on them and how many people it could take down. Trump himself is now exposed to daylight like never before and he's wilting in it fast.

 

[Slayer-33]

Don't forget that his daughters texts show that Manafort would be meeting with Trump on a daily basis. "Plotting ", as she put it.

What what what

 

[BoogieWoogie]

I'm starting to think the worst possible thing that could've ever happened to Russia is Trump winning

Russia wins regardless of what happens. Look at the damage Trump is already doing to the trust our allies have in our country.

 

[Nazgul_Hunter]

Russia wins regardless of what happens. Look at the damage Trump is already doing to the trust our allies have in our country.

Nah the way this is playing out could seriously backfire On Russia. If Trump has to quit / be removed because Russia ties are exposed, the US will be even more strongly anti Russia.

Russia is also trying to do the same thing to Europe and a new administration would work closely with Europe to squash Putin

 

[ivajz]

What what what

That same jezebel article. https://www.google.ca/amp/theslot.j...afort-continued-to-play-a-role-1793469844/amp

Physically, Manafort never really went anywhere: He owns an apartment in Trump Tower. According to the allegedly hacked data, Manafort’s eldest daughter Jessica, 34, texted her sister Andrea on April 7 that “Dad and Trump are literally living in the same building and mom says they go up and down all day long hanging and plotting together.”

 

[Arkeband]

That same jezebel article. https://www.google.ca/amp/theslot.j...afort-continued-to-play-a-role-1793469844/amp

His daughter is a treasure trove of quotables.

 

[Byakuya769]

At what point do we start accepting the fact that a hostile foreign government has launched and succeeded in attacking our country?
Best case scenario, Trump is a puppet propped up by Putin.
Are we even considered an independent country at that point? In Civ we'd officially be Russian now lol

I've been there since this past summer. When do Republicans get there? When there appears to be electoral consequences for them, I guess. Party first.

 

[TarpitCarnivore]

I have to think at this point shit would move a lot quicker. So much more electronic surveillance and technology available to investigators. So much more electronic communications and transactions performed by perpetrators.

Quicker, maybe, but I still wouldn't expect to see anything in a month or six.

Given the significance of it all as a whole the IC cannot just move on speed. It has to be well prepared and lock tight or else they'll never get another chance.

 

[robochimp]

The only silver lining in all this is opening up the door to a Yaakov Smirnov comeback tour.

He has a permanent show in Branson, if you need your Yaakov fix.

 

[WedgeX]

I've been there since this past summer. When do Republicans get there? When there appears to be electoral consequences for them, I guess. Party first.

Unfortunately. And Republicans seem to be immune to negative news about their president.

 

[gutter_trash]

LOL, he still lives in his Trump Tower appartment

 

[TarpitCarnivore]

I've been there since this past summer. When do Republicans get there? When there appears to be electoral consequences for them, I guess. Party first.

There's a theory, and I agree here, that the whole reason the GOP suddenly supported him in his rise was they realized he could be a distraction to their party plans. As of right now it's been backfiring a bit because people are a lot more aware of whats going on than they likely anticipated. Not to mention there were reports early on about who all the bills and executive orders were causing controversy within the office because of all the hell they were causing.

The theory suggests the GOP will ride him out until 2018 provided nothing else blows up before than.

 

[KernelPanic]

Apparently he's hired a crisis management firm lol

 

[LookAtMeGo]

Nvm wrong thread

 

[KingV]

Nah the way this is playing out could seriously backfire On Russia. If Trump has to quit / be removed because Russia ties are exposed, the US will be even more strongly anti Russia.

Russia is also trying to do the same thing to Europe and a new administration would work closely with Europe to squash Putin

Definitely. As this continues, it's more and more likely that Congress willl (eventually) codify the current sanctions into law and possibly strengthen them to try to inoculate themselves from trump.

 

[Sho_Nuff82]

Manafort has been working with Trump even after his "resignation".








http://theslot.jezebel.com/hacked-texts-suggest-manafort-continued-to-play-a-role-1793469844

Totally fits with Trump's MO of valuing loyalty over competence.

 

[mcfrank]

This is fucking insane. And it was only possible because Republican voters are so fucking stupid.

 

[Zolo]

Totally fits with Trump's MO of valuing loyalty over competence.

Doesn't get much more loyal than being involved in the same shady shit.

 

[BlastProcessing]

Maybe he'll start realizing who he got in bed with.

He knows who he got in bed with. He invited them into bed in the first place and told them to piss on him.

 

[DonShula]

I'm well aware that it's going to take time to possibly kick Trump out of office (or at the very least massively defang him until the 2020 election), but it seems like an insanely tall order to me for the DNC to successfully obstruct Gorsuch from being seated long enough to take back the House and elect a new Speaker in the case that Trump (and Pence) gets thrown out.

That said, can you guys imagine what the fallout would be if Gorsuch somehow winds up being involved in all of this too? I find the chances of that to be unlikely personally, but it'd be nuts if it did happen.

If Dems are dead set on obstructing Gorsuch, they should be screaming from the rooftops that confirmation can't proceed while the White House is under investigation. We have zero evidence to this point that our judicial branch has been compromised, but we have all the circumstantial evidence in the world that the White House has, and that legislative might be involved to some light degree as well. If I'm a Dem I'm going on TV and saying repeatedly that we can't chance an appointment by a president whose motives are even remotely suspected treasonous. Gorsuch may truly be a Boy Scout, but Dems need to draw that bright, bold line directly from Russian interference to possible infiltration of the judicial branch.

 

[nampad]

Politics have never been more exciting...as long as you aren't American.

 

[MetalGearZed]

Chances that Trump will die in jail are increasing!

♫♩"You can't always get what you want"♩♫

rofl

 

[Saya]

https://twitter.com/yashar/status/844526539962302464

 

[ZOONAMI]

Get him to testify and come clean or extradite him to Ukraine. He'll get his due there.

Yep. He should be arrested, given a chance to come clean, or else we will ship you to Ukraine and keep a constant security apparatus around him so he doesn't get murdered by the Russians.

 

[BlastProcessing]

I have to think at this point shit would move a lot quicker. So much more electronic surveillance and technology available to investigators. So much more electronic communications and transactions performed by perpetrators.

But the charge is far more serious here and they are more people involved. This would be the single most serious allegation in American history by a pretty massive margin. This would dwarf Watergate or Teapot Dome.

You only get one shot at this. If you come at the king, you best not miss.

 

[Stinkles]

There is still nothing that directly links Trump with this. Manafort was a chairman on the campaign, but as far as this is written there doesn't seem to be much there in the way of Trump beyond that relationship.

Can't tell if jokes or oblivious or troll


His campaign manager who lived in Trump tower (and still does)

 

[Funky Papa]

https://twitter.com/yashar/status/844526539962302464

This man would be ripped to shreds if forced to testify.

I'm talking about a Roman circus-like spectacle.

 

[ZOONAMI]

This man would be ripped to shreds if forced to testify.

I'm talking about a Roman circus-like spectacle.

Lol what did he even just say.

 

[Stinkles]

https://twitter.com/yashar/status/844526539962302464

That's what he, I that is, ur, that's what mythe position is.

 

[acheron_xl]

https://twitter.com/yashar/status/844526539962302464

 

[ZOONAMI]

Is that Mitt Romney and Terrance Howard in Mafia ??

 

[KernelPanic]

This man would be ripped to shreds if forced to testify.

I'm talking about a Roman circus-like spectacle.

Well the Senate is on it:

http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/21/politics/mark-warner-paul-manafort/

Washington (CNN)Virginia Sen. Mark Warner pledged on Tuesday that he would press President Donald Trump's former campaign chairman Paul Manafort for answers.

The Democratic senator and ranking member on the Senate intelligence committee said on CNN's Erin Burnett "OutFront" that allegations about Manafort's dealings in Ukraine and other open questions meant that the committee would speak with him as part of its probe into alleged Russian interference in the presidential campaigns and collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia.

Hehe: http://thehill.com/business-a-lobby...ump-aide-manafort-hires-crisis-communications

Paul Manafort, the former chairman of Donald Trump's presidential campaign, has hired a crisis communications firm.

The move comes as Manafort faces scrutiny over possible ties to Russia centered on his past consulting work for officials in Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovych's pro-Russia government.

 

[Yankee Ruin X]

Well the Senate is on it:

http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/21/politics/mark-warner-paul-manafort/



Hehe: http://thehill.com/business-a-lobby...ump-aide-manafort-hires-crisis-communications

He will trip and fall out of a window of Trump Tower before he gets to the hearings.

 

[Dubbedinenglish]

Well the Senate is on it:

http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/21/politics/mark-warner-paul-manafort/



Hehe: http://thehill.com/business-a-lobby...ump-aide-manafort-hires-crisis-communications

Dude is going to plead the 5th.

 

[BoogieWoogie]

The fact that Manafort is hiring a PR agency when he most likely has spooks, potentially from both the US AND Russia, following his every move just shows the level of stupidity of these folks.

 

[kess]

Trump IS a Russian Oligarch lol