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Ar nosurge Plus: Ode To An Unborn Star |OT| Humanity's Last Stand
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Mauricio_Magus
Banned
you have until the end of the month.
I'm not happy about this... it's such a good summary
chrominance
Member
Goddamit, so all the videos got taken down?
So what, is the Ciel nosurge story necessary for Ar nosurge or not? I know it's not technically necessary, but if I'm going to spend much of Ar nosurge confused or oblivious because this translation no longer exists, then that's pretty unfortunate. (Not blaming the translator, they're obviously quite free to do what they want and if they felt they were being unfairly criticized for volunteer work, fair enough.)
So what, is the Ciel nosurge story necessary for Ar nosurge or not? I know it's not technically necessary, but if I'm going to spend much of Ar nosurge confused or oblivious because this translation no longer exists, then that's pretty unfortunate. (Not blaming the translator, they're obviously quite free to do what they want and if they felt they were being unfairly criticized for volunteer work, fair enough.)
Wow I bought this for some impulsive reason and didn't understand that it was a direct sequel to something.
Edit: The translator's work there is really amazing, sad that he/she got so much shit from stupid people.
Might as well just make my way through Ciel and use this as a confirmation for events and stuff. Thanks a lot for this informative OT!!
That being said, between Offline and RE:Incarnation which is recommended?
Edit: The translator's work there is really amazing, sad that he/she got so much shit from stupid people.
Might as well just make my way through Ciel and use this as a confirmation for events and stuff. Thanks a lot for this informative OT!!
That being said, between Offline and RE:Incarnation which is recommended?
Mauricio_Magus
Banned
It's a direct sequel, you can play Ar without it but all the backstory is in Ciel.
Crap from folks here too. This is why we can't have good things.
Offline, all the way.
Thank you!
Yeah, that's really sad. At least the translator hasn't taken everything down yet, I don't want to see all of that work go to waste.
flatearthpandas
Member
Damn, that is too bad about the summary. I thought it achieved its goal just fine.
YianGaruga
Banned
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Dragonslayer_023
Banned
What's the difference? Offline is much more expensive.
Offline includes new gameplay features like being able to fast forward time whenever you'd like provided you have the energy for it. That alone is a game changer. . . Otherwise you'd spend at least a year playing Reincarnation. XD Or 6 months. Ciel was originally 2 years, but that was due to content being released every couple of months. But Ciel also ran in real time. so it'd take Ion from hours to days to finish crafting. Or it'd also take you hours/days to finish repairing a certain memory.
Besides that, it has new events/costumes. More interaction options with Ion.
With the videos unavailable are the text still mostly understandable?you have until the end of the month.
I'm not happy about this... it's such a good summary
Btw, this is maximum crap, making fun of people enormous work that they do for free.
Absolutely, the videos were something he only started doing recently. He did have videos of the major song events and etc. But the summary provided described enough to get a good grasp of each chapter.
Mauricio_Magus
Banned
I want to know who the fuck made fun of his work, it's amazing and this makes me so mad.
yes, the text is amazing!
I don't think it's a bad idea at all.
yes, the text is amazing!
I don't think it's a bad idea at all.
Why can't he just ignore them and keep working on it ?
Pretty sure a lot more people are appreciating his work than the people bitching about it .
Could be various reasons, but it's best left that it ultimately has led to the video series ending and the eventual closure of the indepth Ciel nosurge summary.
People have different stroke of egos and sensitivity . It would ve fortunate if he one of the people who don't give a fuck on what he did since it still benefitted people at large. But clearly he believes that what he did is something good yet other people make ridicule of his effort that he done for free. I think his work still warrant for criticism even when do it for free, but always extremely disliking insults and ridicule that masked as one.
Well I better read it soon.
I agree with this. A PDF version would be great.
I think you should save and host it, the complete version.
His translation is great and it helps a lot of people to get more attached to the universe before trying Ar nosurge.
If there was another translation, this would not be necessary. Even if it goes against his wishes, I think it is even worse to see Ciel fading in obscurity.
chrominance
Member
Hesitated to mention this in case they get pulled down for real, but: turns out the videos have just been delisted, not removed. They're still accessible from the links in the text summaries.
Yup, I've been personally archiving the site and all the videos as we speak. I also hesitated personally too in case. But I'm done with grabbing it all now.
My poor desktop. . .XD
There are soooo many videos!!! Holy crap, how much work has this translator done? By all means, preserve this stuff!!!
Mauricio_Magus
Banned
You're doing god's work
chrominance
Member
82 in total, which ends partially through chapter 5. I also grabbed all the videos, but only the 360p webm files because of the plugin I'm using, so it someone got the 480p versions all the better.
How big is the size of each individual video?
YianGaruga
Banned
edit: not needed anymore
Basileus777
Member
Why are we being coy about backups of public internet pages?
YianGaruga
Banned
Because the person who made it has a reason for taking it down and while I think it's a shame, I'm not willing to share it anymore after that. Also as I said there is a bandwidth limit so I'm hiding it for NeoGAF members.
So far it's just me that's hosting this so if anyone else feels differently about it feel free to take my backup and host it publicly somewhere else.
Kresnik258
Member
I'm beginning to wonder if these two ordering it in large quantities is why the stock went down so rapidly in the last week or so.
OT: Gutted about the Ciel summary - I guess I'll have to speed up on reading it then!
YianGaruga
Banned
Considering how much VGP kept mentioning that they'll have very limited stock I expected them to get like 20 copies lol. It's oos again as I'm typing this but at this point everybody should have had time to get one.
It's crazy that they're basically able to offer it at the same price as the NISA store with cheap worldwide shipping as well. Makes the NISA EU store look even more like a joke
I considered waiting for the video project to be finished before starting Ar because I love how it's made, but I guess I'll just read the summaries now :/
Kresnik258
Member
Yeah, I was incredibly shocked.
I was planning on buying from NISA directly and shipping to a friend in the USA who would ship to me, but I waited, and honestly I'm really glad I did because the price I got it for from VG+ was a steal.
Never used them before either. Likely will again in future as a result of this.
Dragon1893
Member
I'm actually glad to be able to provide feedback on this game. I like what they did with it but there are also some things I really felt I needed to point out and that I hope will be improved in the future.
They seem to be reading this thread but giving more feedback can't hurt.
Best/max quality on Youtube was 480p so they should not be too big in size .
Small as 30, as much as 70? Not bad at all. 3 gigs altogether.
Also in regards to mirroring, I'm trying to ask for permission out of respect, but if I don't get any response. I'll have a mirror up of my own hosting after it goes down in August.
^ Everything Kiryogi just said.
The original Ciel Nosurge was a tiny base game supplemented by a ton of serialized DLC. To buy the whole story now that way would cost a pile of money.
Offline is the perfect version for someone whose primary Vita PSN account is not in Japan: you can do everything without ever connecting to the PSN, so you can do it all on your primary non-Japanese account. (You might want to use a Japanese account anyway, though, because there are voice packs to download, if that's your thing. If you're content to hear some, but not every line, of the dialogue out loud, you don't need to get those.)
If you want to do the final (hidden) chapter, you will absolutely want to be able to speed up time to your heart's content, as you can with Offline. It would literally take months to craft all the stuff you need to have Ion craft if you want to get to that chapter.
And send me a PM if you want to buy Ciel; I played through the whole thing, including the bonus chapter (save files there and before it), and won't be using mine for a long time. It's really a fantastic experience. The music alone is worth the price of admission.
Got the platinum trophy. This game is still great, even if the performance is rough at times in this version.
Some spoilers/question about costumes (late Phase 3):
Some spoilers/question about costumes (late Phase 3):
I got the Ar Tonelico 1 costumes after getting the Shurelia ending, is there any more to get? I'm thinking no, since the only thing I'm missing from in the model viewer is Cass' purification outfit.
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
BTW, if you want to save the web writeups as PDF just use a webpage to PDF converter.
How do you guys play this game? Any general tips to improve the enjoyment of the game?
I always fall asleep from the awful dialogs and battle system. The combat serves no purpose due to the OHKO and zone wipe mechanic.
And man, I have played worse JRPG before but somehow...this is a snoozefest of a game.
This game would probably be better as a VN.
I always fall asleep from the awful dialogs and battle system. The combat serves no purpose due to the OHKO and zone wipe mechanic.
And man, I have played worse JRPG before but somehow...this is a snoozefest of a game.
This game would probably be better as a VN.
Kinda feeling the same. I decided to just drop the game for now and pick it up again when I feel like starting a new JRPG.
At least playing a bit of Ar Nosurge somehow pushed me to give Fallout 2 yet another try and it finally clicked, so I guess something good has already come out of it lol
Kinda curious, are you playing this on normal?
Dragon1893
Member
Don't play on normal.
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
I've got the whole ciel summary in PDF now.