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[Dog Problems]

First thing that came to mind lol

 

[Kthulhu]

WORLD STAAAAAAAR!!!!!!

Jesus that punch. Felt the sound wave through time, space, and right through my monitor.

Lol

I'll most likely get killed for this, but unless the Nazi dude was threatening people physically, just because someone spews nonsense you find disgusting and disagree with it doesn't give you any right to lay your hands upon them.

He was actively harassing people. I'd say he had it coming.

 

[WhateverItTakes]

I'll most likely get killed for this, but unless the Nazi dude was threatening people physically, just because someone spews nonsense you find disgusting and disagree with it doesn't give you any right to lay your hands upon them.

Even when they're yelling racist shit to you as a minority? Even when they're intruding on your life just to be a piece of shit?

Considering how overt the dude was being I bet he wanted to be punched. But I ain't feeling sorry for him.

 

[BlackDoomShadow]

Oh good, have we reached the part of the thread where Europeans come in and tell us how we should let American law enforcement deal with the Nazis?

Spoiler alert: law enforcement is to white supremacy as Clark Kent is to Superman.

 

[plagiarize]

If the Nazi had been carrying a gun would it have been legal for him to kill the antifa in self-defense?

Probably.

But he'd need to be conscious.

 

[Slime Scholar]

Before entering the thread I was like "If they were not harassing anybody nor showing signs of confrontation, then sadly this isn't a good look for Antifa as they'd be doing exactly what these idiotic nazis do", but after coming in, reading he was harassing people and actually wearing a fucking nazi armband, I can hardly feel any sympathy for the guy and, well, you wear an armband like that in public you are basically asking to start a fight.

Pretty much we're I'm at.

This guy's an idiot. I don't feel sorry for him, but at the same time I'm not looking forward to how people spin this.

 

[Hesemonni]

Please elaborate.

The guy was being a dick and judging by what is written doesn't act like normal member of the society, but ganging up and knocking people out? Obviously there wasn't any better way to handle the situation?

 

[DietRob]

There's better ways to deal with this.

Name a few.

 

[HardRojo]

Made Gifs for you all:

Holy shit that's one hell of a punch! He got off easy.

 

[SlipperyFishes]

Always love another excuse to post this:

I see this all the time but what is it from?

 

[Dandy Lyin]

Racists have been a little too brazen and open with their bullshit since Trump got elected. They need to go back in the closet.

 

[Dylan Sexbang]

Won't condone it, but I did enjoy it. As long as they stay safe, punch Nazis everyday. I only say stay safe cause of this:

If the Nazi had been carrying a gun would it have been legal for him to kill the antifa in self-defense?

Not sure on Washington law, but probably.

 

[docbon]

Did they actually "use twitter to find him and beat him up" or is this just the logical conclusion of a dude walking around with his nazi cosplay and harassing people?

 

[Greddleok]

This is sick, and the people supporting this are sick.
And you all wonder why the "both sides have extremists" narrative exists.

 

[JCHandsom]

I don't advocate violence.

But that was a hell of a punch.

 

[jstripes]

Good ol' YouTube. Always defending the Nazis.

What the fuck is wrong with that site.

 

[Fudgepuppy]

This will not end well for our country. This is what the wealthy and the powerful want. A race / class war. Its the same shit, different century.

You can punch nazis and battle wealth disparity at the same time. They don't negate each other.

 

[Straight Edge]

I'll most likely get killed for this, but unless the Nazi dude was threatening people physically, just because someone spews nonsense you find disgusting and disagree with it doesn't give you any right to lay your hands upon them.

"Fighting words" law.

 

[Morrigan Stark]

Made Gifs for you all:

Shorter version:

And the aftermath

Thanks! Too bad about the watermark though, but better than nothing

 

[Fenderputty]

So when you came to, did you still have your armband on, or did they take it?

The implication that because someone doesn't agree with violence against a Nazi who wasn't being violent, then that make them a Nazi is pretty disgusting, honestly.

 

[Hesemonni]

I see this all the time but what is it from?

The Preacher.

 

[MistakenMobius]

I see this all the time but what is it from?

Preacher

 

[CopperPuppy]

 

[SlickShoesRUCrazy]

Violence begets violence.

Though, Nazi's deserve no sympathy.

 

[Shao Kahn on the Lawn]

If the Nazi had been carrying a gun would it have been legal for him to kill the antifa in self-defense?

Doubtful. The fact that he's the one who started the altercation is problematic for self-defense, even if the catalyst was verbal. Deadly force from a CCW is supposed to be the last route: if you could have peacefully removed yourself from the situation but opted to stay and escalate, you could potentially be charged with 2nd-degree murder.

 

[SomedayTheFire]

Did they actually "use twitter to find him and beat him up" or is this just the logical conclusion of a dude walking around with his nazi cosplay and harassing people?

You already know the answer to that. Look at the sympathy and misdirection it's getting.

 

[Eidan]

What's the evidence that the guy who knocked him out was using Twitter to hunt the Nazi down and beat him up?

 

[Khaos Kontrol]

 

[Kthulhu]

Made Gifs for you all:

Shorter version:

And the aftermath

Yeah, this should be all you need to see. He was clearly egging them on.

 

[plagiarize]

Racists have been a little too brazen and open with their bullshit since Trump got elected. They need to go back in the closet.

Yup.

If someone is worried that a Nazi will now be afraid to go out wearing a Swastika armband while preaching hateful rhetoric... WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU? WHY WOULDN'T YOU WANT THAT BEHAVIOUR DISCOURAGED?

Freedom of speech doesn't give you license to harass people in public, nor does it defend you from fists.

Punching people is illegal, and it should be. Punching people for saying hateful provocative things is LESS frowned on than punching people minding their own business. BECAUSE OF COURSE IT IS.

 

[Nepenthe]

I'm not gonna lie; my immediate reaction to reading the topic title was silence and then laughter. Reading the actual story afterwards, my feelings are now one of apathy. Fuck Nazis, particularly the brazen, careless kind.

 

[SlipperyFishes]

Preacher

The Preacher.

Thank you!

 

[Swiggins]

I'm so conflicted...

On one hand...punching Nazi's is an American tradition...

On the other...can we really condone violence like this, even if they are fucking Nazi's? They will absolutely use this as justification to do worse and even if they don't it's just going to make the idiotic "both siders" lean towards giving sympathy to the fucking Nazi's.

...nah, fuck it. Keep punching Nazi's.

 

[Big Baybee]

This is sick, and the people supporting this are sick.
And you all wonder why the "both sides have extremists" narrative exists.

Yea, if "fuck nazis" is extreme to you, that's your problem.

 

[paskowitz]

This is probably going to be an unpopular opinion, but it is better to ignore people like this Vs. confronting them (unless they physically or verbally threaten another person).

IMO, this is a weaker net positive, only because it strengths the will of people who sympathize with this viewpoint. Sure it makes you feel good... but it also makes them "feel good". Ignoring them makes them feel unimportant, which IMO is more damaging than a punch to the face.

I am not saying this is the right action in all situations (protests, demonstrations, etc), but in this instance, walking away can send a stronger message in the long run.

 

[NoblesseOblige]

Violence begets violence.

Though, Nazi's deserve no sympathy.

It does. Which is why a Nazi got socked for instigating violence.

 

[Lights and Waves]

Real life violence is cool. Right guise?

I like when the Nazi sympathizers post shit like this. Makes it easier for me to add you to my ignore list.

 

[Fantastapotamus]

I'm sure that punch will make him change his mind, not strengthen his beliefs.

Yes, I'm sure this dude running around in a NAZI ARMBAND was right on the edge of changing his believes.

 

[beelzebozo]

nazi punks

nazi punks

nazi punks

fuuck offfff

 

[Ferr986]

This is sick, and the people supporting this are sick.
And you all wonder why the "both sides have extremists" narrative exists.

What is sick is being a Nazi in 2017. For fuck sake these guys support mass genocide. Fuck the narrative that some idiots may have.

 

[What did he mean by this?]

This is sick, and the people supporting this are sick.
And you all wonder why the "both sides have extremists" narrative exists.

Post this when an antifa plows into a group of nazis with a car


Both sides dont have extremists

Nazi is by default an extremist view.

 

[BitStyle]

Did they actually "use twitter to find him and beat him up" or is this just the logical conclusion of a dude walking around with his nazi cosplay and harassing people?

Seems like the latter to me. He went around town harassing people and found a group that wouldn't play that shit. People that noticed him, mentioned so on twitter, and some people compiled tweets, but that seems to be the end of antifa involvement on that matter.

 

[aspiegamer]

I generally detest violence in any form and was put off by this before digging into the thread. But........ it's a literal Nazi acting like a literal Nazi to other people. I choose to believe that it isn't actually violence if the target is a citizen of the underworld.

A perfect case of "yeah, he's entitled to free speech, but that just means the government can't arrest him for doing it and he's still liable for the consequences of his actions" which he should know might include getting beat up by someone on the street he's being an ass to.

 

[OdysseusVA]

Play Nazi games, win Nazi prizes!

awww
he was so sleepy

 

[kingocfs]

Made Gifs for you all:

lmao

 

[phanphare]

Two things:

A. 800mg of edibles is insanity.
B. While punching Nazi's isn't something I'm against, I fear this will be used the by the right to prove the left wants violence. Especially with the way in which he was tracked using social media.

there's no way it was 800mg of active thc

 

[PSqueak]

Real life violence is cool. Right guise?

No, that's why the Nazi is getting punched, we should not allow them to raise to power.

 

[BlackDoomShadow]

On the other...can we really condone violence like this, even if they are fucking Nazi's? They will absolutely use this as justification to do worse

Nazis don't need a justification to "do worse" because they're fucking Nazis. Their ideology already involves killing everyone they disagree with.

 

[entremet]

Hard to feel sympathy for a dude wearing a Nazi armband.

 

[norm9]

Did they actually "use twitter to find him and beat him up" or is this just the logical conclusion of a dude walking around with his nazi cosplay and harassing people?

I'm assuming there were plenty of twitter users who tweeted "there's a fucker with a nazi armband at so and so location." So, seems like a natural conclusion for walking around the streets with a nazi armband.

Two things:

A. 800mg of edibles is insanity.
B. While punching Nazi's isn't something I'm against, I fear this will be used the by the right to prove the left wants violence. Especially with the way in which he was tracked using social media.

Good luck using the footage of a nazi with his armband prominently displayed to get some sympathy.