It being delayed makes it more likely to come out? Wut? I'm really lost on what you're saying now.
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Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag Wii U version thread
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It being delayed makes it more likely to come out? Wut? I'm really lost on what you're saying now.
wow, for a asscreed game that looks fun.
ThomasAnderson
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Nice to see a thread just for the WiiU version. If BF4 hadn't come out the same day I would've picked this up.
Gamer @ Heart
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Had a weird system crash today. Luckily this game saves after everything.
Also, I wish they could have pushed the fog a bit more in this version.
That said, I'm still having a lot of fun.
Also, I wish they could have pushed the fog a bit more in this version.
That said, I'm still having a lot of fun.
ab.aeterno
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As has been noted, the PS4/360 shots were pulled from compressed YouTube videos, put against a direct feed still. It's not a good comparison.
That's the worst example you can use as evidence, as said before. It's not a fair or straight comparison.
Wii U version clearly has better textures than the 360 version and matches PS4 version. Heck looking at it again, it looks sharper than the PS4 version, only by a little though.
The WiiU looks a step above current gen, but a step below next-gen, in texture detail and clarity. It certainly shows the hardware is more capable than the older HD twins, but let's not get carried away.
soulassssns
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Just purchased it from the eSHop and downloading. Cannot wait!
prag16
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PS3/WiiU comparison video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4pL4lQdbyo
I think the Wii U version definitely gets the edge, but the difference isn't massive. Textures and lighting are slightly more pleasing to my eye. There are also a few places where the PS3 framerate bogs down and Wii U does not, but who knows, that could just be the capture rather than the game itself.
I think he's saying that the Wii U version may have gotten sacked so that the other versions could make the original release date. But now that all SKUs are delayed, they'll have enough resources to finish the Wii U version as well.
I know he has some inside info on NPD numbers, but not sure what else.
What he didn't answer is my original question...
John, is this just speculation (or an "educated guess" if you want to call it), or did you actually hear some inside info?
I think the Wii U version definitely gets the edge, but the difference isn't massive. Textures and lighting are slightly more pleasing to my eye. There are also a few places where the PS3 framerate bogs down and Wii U does not, but who knows, that could just be the capture rather than the game itself.
I think he's saying that the Wii U version may have gotten sacked so that the other versions could make the original release date. But now that all SKUs are delayed, they'll have enough resources to finish the Wii U version as well.
I know he has some inside info on NPD numbers, but not sure what else.
What he didn't answer is my original question...
John, is this just speculation (or an "educated guess" if you want to call it), or did you actually hear some inside info?
Doubt Watch_Dogs was getting sacked. Heck, the uPlay app on Wii U had the game already there and you could even buy stuff for the game with the uPlay points. Though is no confirmation, it kinda shows that the Wii U version was still on track for the November release as the others.
If anything I'd say the delay was to make sure the "next gen versions" were better and to polish the others too. The PS4 version was receiving a lot of flack for not been close to the original reveal and a ton of problems with framerate, and the apparently leaked footage of the "current gen versions" also received flack for having some stuff completely changed or removed (like that thing on the main characters cap). Then a week later, the game was delayed...so close to the actual release on a time game's are usually gold and by a publisher that in the past had no problems releasing games with bugs and glitches.
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On-topic, I'm apparently receiving the ACIV game earlier (today!)...but I work during the night. :/
If anything I'd say the delay was to make sure the "next gen versions" were better and to polish the others too. The PS4 version was receiving a lot of flack for not been close to the original reveal and a ton of problems with framerate, and the apparently leaked footage of the "current gen versions" also received flack for having some stuff completely changed or removed (like that thing on the main characters cap). Then a week later, the game was delayed...so close to the actual release on a time game's are usually gold and by a publisher that in the past had no problems releasing games with bugs and glitches.
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On-topic, I'm apparently receiving the ACIV game earlier (today!)...but I work during the night. :/
shinobi602
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Looks...very bad.
prag16
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....okay.
Where'd that screen come from? It doesn't look that bad necessarily. what's the point of this post? A driveby troll post like your first post in the CoD Ghosts Wii U topic?
Like the hat?
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I did that same synchronization point the other day, and yeah, the trees there looked really weird/bad in comparison to the rest of the game
The rest of the game looks great though, which is why that area stood out to me.
The rest of the game looks great though, which is why that area stood out to me.
All the pics are taken from the Wii U/Image Share option (someone actually playing the game).
But...shinobi gotta shinobi.
At least he got better at making thread titles.
And meh...the game's definitely arriving when I leave for work, unless it arrives in 2 hours.
And kinda miss the "DS days" with Altair's Chronicles and Discovery. Discovery was a fun/Sonic Rush-like game.
MaximusPayne
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....dat water....lol
....same water...
bwahahahah
SniperHunter
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Peterthumpa
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Does it look better than AC Vita running on the gamepad? Seems like a stupid question but I need to know.
shinobi602
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The hell are you talking about? I don't think the game looks good here. Water and ground textures look terrible.
Like the hat?
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They surely do different water when it is far away. I'd bet anything you look at that same area on 360/ps3, it would look the same. Probably on ps4/xbone too
I'd be damned impressed if they could render the water like that, a mile away in the distance.
It does look great, how it's supposed to, when your next to the water/sailing.
Nothing happened.
Like with many games, the games renders lower res/detailed stuff in the background since there's no need to load the entire water and effects from that far.
A video was already posted earlier on this thread ,showing the water earlier in the game; when you're actually close to it.
MaximusPayne
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It's still pretty hilarious...
prag16
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If your intention wasn't to stir up shit, my bad. But a lot of your posts come across that way; either feigning ignorance or taking jabs trying to be funny/controversial, or so forth.
Wasn't that sale last month for Wii U games?
shinobi602
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My post in the COD Ghosts thread was just a joke, nothing more. I love Nintendo dude.
I'm planning on buying a Wii U soon when SM3DW comes out. The picture genuinely just looks bad to me, that's all.
There's another one 11/10-11/16.
....dat water....lol
....same water...
bwahahahah
Make the same shot in the next gen version and the water won't look like the 2nd screen either ... It'll also be a low res thing in the distance.
That being said. Untill there's a site who can get the same screens at the same moment with the same capture settings, we'll all stay running in circles about the differences with the ps360.
megabytecr
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Slightly better textures and lighting make the Wii U game look crisp in comparison to the PS3.
But given the minor difference even between the PS3 and PS4 versions, the Wii U holds up pretty well and it is a nice to have, even if differences between versions are small. Basically you are not missing on anything with any version, I still don't plan to get a PS4 so it is nice to know the Wii U version delivers.
Great idea for a thread and I think we should have one for every Wii U Multiplat game.
edit: looking at AC4 and Batman AO on the Wii U against PS360 versions I am actually surprised at the impact of better lightning, in the case of AC 4 on PS3 it looks darker and Batman AO X360 I thought it was to bright, while Wii U looks great on both, a more balanced lighting model that looks great.
prag16
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Aight, it's all good. It's not just these two posts I'm referring to, but w/e. The drive-by trolling in Nintendo threads has gotten way out of hand even more than usual, so I lumped it in with that.
OK, that's a joke, right? Look at the giant sand texture behind the character. It's the same on Wii U and 360 but higher resolution on PS4. Furthermore, the 360 and PS4 shots are from low quality videos (especially the 360 shot) that has eliminated the detail in the face.
Wii U version clearly has better textures than the 360 version and matches PS4 version. Heck looking at it again, it looks sharper than the PS4 version, only by a little though.
Direct feed shots show it as having the same resolution textures on characters. People looking at characters for the comparison are kind of missing the point, though, as they really didn't receive any real enhancements compared to the environment and effects.
I'm not convinced that there is a real difference between the PS360 versions and the Wii U version visually. They look exactly the same in every piece of media I've seen. Where's evidence of enhanced lighting or textures?
Actually, I take back the performance comment, the comparison video Prag posted switches back and forth several times once you hit land and the framerate looks smoother on PS3 throughout all of that.
prag16
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We argued about this type of thing once already, but if that's your takeaway I'm not sure we were watching the same video...
megabytecr
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The differences are minor, even between PS3 and PS4. But the Wii U version has also a minor difference in lightning and textures from PS360. Now I am not going that far as to say Wii U > PS4, but like it was already said, he looks happier in the Wii U version
.Wii U version is 14GB while PS360 are aprox. 9.5GBs, I am just speculating with the size difference, it could mean anything, but there is a possibility Wii U has better textures, I can see the difference in the video, slight but it exists.
prag16
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A couple of the times he swapped which side of the video PS3 and Wii U were on, I didn't realize the system labels had changed, but I noticed the quality change, then a few seconds later realized he had swapped it. In those cases it was always the Wii U side which seemed to look slightly better. And it wasn't biased because I thought this before my brain registered which side was which.
Neither one looks significantly worse than the PS4 version though. At least that one'll run at 1080p60 though. Right?
Point me to the exact time frames. I'm genuinely curious.The differences are minor, even between PS3 and PS4. But the Wii U version has also a minor difference in lightning and textures from PS360. Now I am not going that far as to say Wii U > PS4, but like it was already said, he looks happier in the Wii U version
Wii U version is 14GB while PS360 are aprox. 9.5GBs, I am just speculating with the size difference, it could mean anything, but there is a possibility Wii U has better textures, I can see the difference in the video, slight but it exists.
You didn't see it? When climbing around in the jungle it definitely seemed slower on Wii U. Again, that's literally just my take from a low quality Youtube video.
Trying to pass judgement on any of this is kind of a bad idea. I certainly haven't passed judgement yet but I'm not really convinced there is any actual technical difference between the versions. Direct feed shots show identical textures.
megabytecr
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No, unless they could achieve that from E3. The last I heard it was 1080p30 by DF after E3.
Yes Ubi did a good job on all versions. Nobody is missing out on this game, even PS360.
prag16
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What the fucking fuck? All that extra horsepower and they couldn't get it to 60fps, even with the rest of the game looking pretty similar?
Maybe it's the same crap that plagued the Wii U launch games... engines tailored for years to run best on long pipelined high clocked CPUs as part of somewhat odd overall architectures...
Point me to the exact time frames. I'm genuinely curious.
You didn't see it? When climbing around in the jungle it definitely seemed slower on Wii U. Again, that's literally just my take from a low quality Youtube video.
Trying to pass judgement on any of this is kind of a bad idea. I certainly haven't passed judgement yet but I'm not really convinced there is any actual technical difference between the versions. Direct feed shots show identical textures.
On the PS3 version when entering the jungle I remember hitches on the PS3 version when he took off running. Spinning the camera around in the jungle I thought also looked a tiny bit choppier on PS3 (though both appeared to drop frames). But yeah, it's hard to pass judgement based on this. If I get a chance later maybe I'll try to find exact timestamps for what I'm talking about.
And maybe I need my eyes checked, but even in that screenshot, the Wii U version looks better to me. The lighting just seems a tad more pleasing, and a couple of the textures (her shirt, whatever he's laying on, possibly the wall in the background) look a little muddier on PS3.
Well, the extra effects they added are quite impressive, but at least it seems to hit a completely constant 30 fps as opposed to the generally sub-30 fps you get in the other versions.
I think you're just seeing things. If there were actual differences in the assets it would be much more obvious.
It's odd that you're thinking the PS4 version doesn't look much better but arguing over minuscule Wii U details that might not even be there. I'm just saying.
megabytecr
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stop it at 38 seconds, look at the floor and the wood floor at the top
at 40 the main character is split between the 2 versions, he looks blurrier on the PS3
from 1:15 to 1:48 it is easy to see the lightning differences
stop it at 4:45 and 4:46 PS3 looks blurrier and lightning is different
4:51 loot at the difference in clarity for the cloth
Still like I said very minor differences. I am just happy the Wii U got a nice version, and like I said before every version is worth it.
Ah, I think you're getting caught up on video compression issues and differences in camera angles (in regards to the lighting sections).
At 4:45/6 you're seeing a dust cloud enter the PS3 frame. Those clouds are random which is why the two versions show the clouds at different points.
megabytecr
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Ok, could be, let just leave it at that and better wait for the pros to do their job. The last one where he is laying the difference in cloth is very very clear.
I am really curious about the size difference between Wii U and PS360, 4GBs is a lot.
Projectjustice
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The difference is minimal but towards wii u is correct.
It's just...knowing how these games are made I don't think you're actually seeing any improvements there. If there were a difference in the textures it would be more visible than that. It's not even a technical battle, rather, an issue of development cost.
The size difference could be any number of things. Keep in mind that this commonly occurred between PS3 and 360 games as well. My guess? They're using redundant data in order to improve loading times. The PS3 version has an install while 360 comes with a recommended 3gb install for proper textures. The Wii U lacks such an option so, in order to side-step loading issues, they've probably duplicated data.
These direct feed shots definitely suggest identical textures.
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