Is there a single human being alive that would put Avatar in the same category as any of these movies? Yknow, movies that actually had an impact on pop culture?
What sets? lol
Is there a single human being alive that would put Avatar in the same category as any of these movies? Yknow, movies that actually had an impact on pop culture?
Avatar had a lot of sets. A lot of the jungle stuff was filmed in various jungle sets, and most of the human scenes had large sets including fully built mechs.
So in the off chance the first movie of four comes out and bombs, what are they going to do with the other 3 and the money they sunk into it?
Avatar made 2B (the other 700 mil or so was the US) just from overseas alone and you got people thinking the sequels might have trouble hitting 1B.
The overseas market has only gotten stronger since then.
Pacific Rim hit 400 million largely because it made 300 mill overseas.
We are talking about a public that loved shows like Two and a Half Men + Big Bang Theory and an overseas market that wets itself for the latest Transformers movie.
The problem is that Avatar was carried by its visual gimmick, which has since been oversaturated in the market so the big question is whether people will solely watch Avatar for the visuals. Not to mention, competition has increased from 2008 and the advent of social media and increased importance of rotten tomatoes means that bad word is even more of a death knell than it used to be.
Not to mention, even if the overseas market wets itself for transformers, the latest movie made far less than the other iterations (iirc one of the first in a long time to not break 1bil). Which goes to show you that factors can affect a movie's success, even if it seems too big to fail.
The problem is that Avatar was carried by its visual gimmick, which has since been oversaturated in the market so the big question is whether people will solely watch Avatar for the visuals. Not to mention, competition has increased from 2008 and the advent of social media and increased importance of rotten tomatoes means that bad word is even more of a death knell than it used to be.
Not to mention, even if the overseas market wets itself for transformers, the latest movie made far less than the other iterations (iirc one of the first in a long time to not break 1bil). Which goes to show you that factors can affect a movie's success, even if it seems too big to fail.
Avatar had a lot of sets. A lot of the jungle stuff was filmed in various jungle sets, and most of the human scenes had large sets including fully built mechs.
So forgettable it affected you deeply enough to write this nonsense.
In case you actually wanted to know, Cameron has been working with a team of four screenwriters for the last few years on four different scripts for the entire project.
The problem is that Avatar was carried by its visual gimmick, which has since been oversaturated in the market so the big question is whether people will solely watch Avatar for the visuals. Not to mention, competition has increased from 2008 and the advent of social media and increased importance of rotten tomatoes means that bad word is even more of a death knell than it used to be.
Not to mention, even if the overseas market wets itself for transformers, the latest movie made far less than the other iterations (iirc one of the first in a long time to not break 1bil). Which goes to show you that factors can affect a movie's success, even if it seems too big to fail.
Word of mouth was the REASON Avatar was successful. It made the same amount of money its first and second weekends. Like it launched twice.
Word of mouth was the REASON Avatar was successful. It made the same amount of money its first and second weekends. Like it launched twice.
is the rumor that Avengers 3 and 4 combined have 1 billion dollar budget, true? that seems like the more crazier number although understandable with how many star they have in it.
All that shows me is that Stephen Lang was one buff mofo in that. And that Cameron was extremely hands on with his camera work.
Word of mouth was the REASON Avatar was successful. It made the same amount of money its first and second weekends. Like it launched twice.
There are also sets.
Word of mouth about the tech and the experience of watching the film in 3D, more specifically. It was a novelty, and used the 3D gimmick better than just about anything before or since. However, while this was the great strength of the first film, it's where the real challenge for the sequels comes in, because people treated Avatar like a theme park ride, something that whooshes by in a thrilling rush and not a story that stayed with them. 3D is not going to pack people in like that anymore, so these movies are going to actually have to be great movies to get repeat business.
Avatar 2 is going to have to be one of the biggest story/character quality leaps in film history to even come within vague striking distance of the first film's success. It seems like a long shot, but of course I know better than to bet against James Cameron at the box office. It'll be interesting, no doubts there.
What was the last rotten Cameron film?
Word of mouth about the tech and the experience of watching the film in 3D, more specifically. It was a novelty, and used the 3D gimmick better than just about anything before or since. However, while this was the great strength of the first film, it's where the real challenge for the sequels comes in, because people treated Avatar like a theme park ride, something that whooshes by in a thrilling rush and not a story that stayed with them. 3D is not going to pack people in like that anymore, so these movies are going to actually have to be great movies to get repeat business.
Avatar 2 is going to have to be one of the biggest story/character quality leaps in film history to even come within vague striking distance of the first film's success. It seems like a long shot, but of course I know better than to bet against James Cameron at the box office. It'll be interesting, no doubts there.
Is there a single human being alive that would put Avatar in the same category as any of these movies? Y'know, movies that actually had an impact on pop culture?
I know what you were going for. But really, Lang was ripped. And Cameron is very hands on.
Just because it's never happened yet, doesn't mean it can't.
Stephen Lang would've been the perfect Cable.
Yep.The only real real question is: "How far over that 'budget' will Cameron go?"
I'm done betting against Cameron, it's such a bad idea at this point
Titanic should've bombed
Avatar should've bombed
No one is infallible.I'm done betting against Cameron, it's such a bad idea at this point
Titanic should've bombed
Avatar should've bombed
Not falling for it again
No one is infallible.
Exactly. I expect him to deliver the goods in his films and the box office grosses. I am just at the point that I don't expect him to top himself in grosses, because that bar is set extremely fucking high. It is unreasonable to expect him to clear that hurdle yet again.
Of course, we said the same thing before Avatar opened.
No one is infallible.
I think this project will be his first one to disappoint financially. Will probably still be profitable when all is said and done, but Avatar 2 is going to have to be very convincing to get people to stick around for three more of these. Sequels typically make less with each instalment, and I think the oft repeated idea that the general public doesn't care that much about Avatar is true. Sequels released after a long break need to be for a perennial classic, and Avatar seems like more of a pop-cultural joke at this point.
I mean, Cameron's ass got scooped by his ex-wife for Best Director and Best Picture that year
Things of note here:
I doubt the sequels will have the absurd legs the first one did, but they will open way higher
Avatar 1 made like 200 mil in China. In 2009.
Jurassic World made about the same. In 2015.
Shit's gonna be POPPIN'
Things of note here:
I doubt the sequels will have the absurd legs the first one did, but they will open way higher
Avatar 1 made like 200 mil in China. In 2009.
Jurassic World made about the same. In 2015.
Shit's gonna be POPPIN'
I think Avatar 2 will be huge, I'm not so convinced about 5.Things of note here:
I doubt the sequels will have the absurd legs the first one did, but they will open way higher
Avatar 1 made like 200 mil in China. In 2009.
Jurassic World made about the same. In 2015.
Shit's gonna be POPPIN'
It wouldn't be Cameron film release if people weren't underestimating him. He's literally the last filmmaker who should have to prove himself box-office wise, but he has to every time.I'll never understand how people can doubt Cameron at this point. I just don't.