SliChillax
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What does the overlay disappearing have to do with DX10? Unless I'm missing something...
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Batman AK PC Perf Thread of DARKNESS, NO SETTINGS [30fps cap / intro removal in OP]
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What does the overlay disappearing have to do with DX10? Unless I'm missing something...
Gemüsepizza
Member
No DX11 effects.
Peterthumpa
Member
Gemüsepizza;169657355 said:
And also a performance thing, for sure.
j0hnny_385
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Obliterator
Member
This patch 1.0+ better have some incredible fixes:
- Stuttering (The biggest issue of the bunch)
- Missing Rain textures (on batman and batmobile)
- No Ambient Occlusion (no AO, or HBAO+ WTF)
- Memory Leaks (game tends to run even poorer as time goes on)
- Crashes (happens on app exit almost everytime for me or when I jump in the batmobile)
- Stuttering (The biggest issue of the bunch)
- Missing Rain textures (on batman and batmobile)
- No Ambient Occlusion (no AO, or HBAO+ WTF)
- Memory Leaks (game tends to run even poorer as time goes on)
- Crashes (happens on app exit almost everytime for me or when I jump in the batmobile)
jim2point0
Banned
Yeah but then you have the problem of... a 30fps limited game
Sigh... these vram issues are killing my desire to play tonight
I know. It's a lose-lose situation. Pick your poison I guess...
Apparently this game reverts to DX10 when the Nvidia effects are enabled. Might explain why certain shaders and effects are missing?
I'd do it if I weren't at work right now.
- added DLC
- added Batgems that can be used to unlock new levels instantly, capture villains off-screen and reduces the time to the next frame. The pack for 72 Dollar has the best value!
Obliterator
Member
Yeah every one of these should be present in patch 1.0. I don't care if it takes several weeks for the patch to hit at this point, the damage is already done. The first patch needs to not be some half assed attempt, it needs to be a serious game changer
SliChillax
Member
look at the screen below. MSI clearly shows D3D10 = DX10?
fuck me that is bad
I realize that but can you confirm that this is indeed the case on your end? Saying that the overlay doesn't work isn't exactly a confirmation, more like a bug.
Edit: Can anyone confirm that there are rain textures and AO with DX11 aka Gameworks off?
You do realize your setup includes two high-end cards and no matter what you do right now you still doesn't have features like AO and shader textures and are still running it in 30fps. Just a sanity check.
I want to believe the wrong version of the game was uploaded to Steam but it doesn't look to be the case.
We are looking at history here. This is indeed one of the worst PC ports of all time.
demosthenes
Member
For those that tried to play the last AssCreed game. Which is worse?
This is at least playable, or it was for me last night.
This is at least playable, or it was for me last night.
im off to check right now, will report back
Obliterator
Member
Where the fuck is the build that Nvidia was using? That's what I want to know.
Its not just WB / Rocksteady who misled us. Nvidia has been uploading "PC footage" of a build of the game that doesn't exist.
Where is that footage from Nvidia? WTF
For me this is worse than Unity. Unity probably ran a slightly worse at launch but at least all the effects were there. Was still bull shit but I didn't feel as fucked over as I do getting totally screwed out of features that a console can handle for who knows what reason. Unity on PC visually was a superior experience. On Batman we are getting not only a glitchy mess like Unity, but also worse features
If you are curious, here's a quick comparison.
DoF True
DoF False
At a glance CA is gone, grain is gone, DoF is gone, blueish tint is gone, some kind of bloom (batmobile lights) seems to be gone.
On the flipside all that post processing really helps with jaggies.
The PC version of Unity looked fucking amazing, seeing the performance many people felt it was justified there. With this one it looks the worst and it runs horribly, there's no redeeming value.
Also Ubisoft gave the season pass out for free as repayment, I doubt WB will be doing that here.
Nah, its just memory not being freed up fast enough when you are rendering more than 30 frames per second. It looks to be purely a memory management issue at this point
20cent
Banned
AC Unity was playable on day1 with a rig less than 5 years old.
Peterthumpa
Member
Unity is perfectly playable now.
just my opinion, but i think this is worst.... i saw how bad it was in ACU PC performance thread and after the disaster that was watch dogs I decided to not fuck around and just lock the game to 30 at max settings (I got it free with my 980). Shitty but at least that option worked perfectly... it was locked 95% of the time and all the effects were present. Plus the game was gorgeous. Arkham Knight on the other hand can't even be locked to 30. It stutters like a mofo when I'm in the batmobile and the lack of AO makes the game look like shit. That and the missing shaders.
Unity didn't look worse with missing effects, it was buggy like every other version of the game and right now it's ok. This is definitely worse than that at launch.
Unity also looked really great, 970s still could run it very well, much better than this.
Dictator93
Member
look at the screen below. MSI clearly shows D3D10 = DX10?
fuck me that is bad
hahahahahahahahahaha
Your expectations are far too high for a single patch.
SliChillax
Member
Sorry if I'm no doing it myself, I don't have my PC with me at the moment.
Looks horrible with everything turned off in my opinion.
AC Unity is the better port.
Uncapped at 1440p both games ran in the 45-50ish range for me. But with an uncapped FPS for me, Batman doesn't like to load its' textures properly. Also seemed to be a lot less stutter in AC from moving between areas but you're also moving a lot slower in AC.
Capped at 30 on my rig they're about the same I'd say.
Cpt.Underpants
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Obliterator
Member
Agree 100%
Maybe there was some other random ass niche game with worse ports, but this is the worst AAA major game port I've seen in years
Lovely Salsa
Banned
Downloading on steam now! Cant wait to jump in
I wonder if I can get playable fps with smoke effects on with a gtx680
I wonder if I can get playable fps with smoke effects on with a gtx680
Apparently this game only looks good because Rocksteady worked really hard at hiding its inherent ugliness.
I don't remember unity missing textures, AO or any other graphical settings in game. This batman port seems like some amateur did it in a week or so.
Well Unity is mostly fine now and runs as you would expect it to on current hardware. I hope AK gets patched to that extent, hopefully faster too.
EroticSushi
Member
Unity didn't have missing effects that the console versions had. It just had weird glitches and performance was a bit bad.
I think this is honestly the worst PC port in recent times.
Also removes the ability to see enemies in detective mode.
LOL. Sounds like you like adventure and uncertainty. Good luck!
That's having restarted the game after changing the settings?
Dictator93
Member
UE3 has some pretty terrible INI editing when it comes to post processing usually.
look at the screen below. MSI clearly shows D3D10 = DX10?
fuck me that is bad
That's kind of silly, but for all we know it could be an issue with Afterburner. Not saying that's the case, but maybe people in this thread should stop taking so many things at face value. Like the "missing" models, and that guy who supposedly worked for WB.
It's a shitty port and this is a shitty situation, but aim criticism where criticism is due.
EDIT:
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I played it on launch. Unity is better now for sure but even at launch I'd say it was a better port.
Though I didn't run into the notorious missing faces bug like some did.
Holdfing
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m_shortpants
Member
Last night I set the fps cap to 120 and textures just would not load.
Setting it to 60 helped a little bit, but the LOD and time it would take for them to show up was still unacceptable.
No wonder they went with the 30 cap. So shady.
Setting it to 60 helped a little bit, but the LOD and time it would take for them to show up was still unacceptable.
No wonder they went with the 30 cap. So shady.