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[big_z]

How many flags on consoles?

Probably 4-5. I have a feeling they'll cut the flags across the bridge which would be a shame since fights there are amazing.

I used to always play 32p karkand. When the player amount dropped To the low 20s the map starts to feel empty.

 

[arab]

i am so fucking hard right now that my dick is quivering in a strange mixture of joy and awe

 

[Cobra84]

The game doesn't load for me sometimes... only happens when i have those injector files in my directory.

Are using the latest config he posted? There looks to be a problem with some of the lines.

/*========================================================================== ============
"USER" ADJUSTABLE SETTINGS
=========================================================================== ===========*/

// TODO: Normalize values to be on a human range scale, whole numbers prefered, decimals usable for micro adjustments
// These values should have min/max limit checks included in their functions, so that the end user doesn't get crazy results

/*------------------------------------------------------------------------------
FILTER SELECTION
------------------------------------------------------------------------------*/
// Comment to deactivate an effect.
// Example: To disable the tonemap effect, use // in front of #define USE_TONEMAP
#define USE_ANTI_ALIASING
#define USE_PRE_SHARPEN
//#define USE_BLOOM
//#define USE_TECHNICOLOR
#define USE_TONEMAP
//#define USE_SEPIA
//#define USE_VIGNETTE
//#define USE_POST_SHARPEN
//#define USE_FINAL_LIMITER


/*------------------------------------------------------------------------------
FXAA SHADER
------------------------------------------------------------------------------*/
// Set values to calculate the amount of Anti Aliasing applied
float fxaaQualitySubpix = 1.00; // Default: 0.75 Raise to increase amount of blur
float fxaaQualityEdgeThreshold = 0.012; // Lower the value for more smoothing
float fxaaQualityEdgeThresholdMin = 0.012; // Lower the value for more smoothing


/*------------------------------------------------------------------------------
PRE_SHARPEN
------------------------------------------------------------------------------*/
//For higher precision in the calculation of contour, requires slightly more processing power
bool highQualitySharpen = 0; //0 = Disable | 1 = Enable

// Set values to calculate the amount of AA produced blur to consider for the sharpening pass
#define Average 0.30
#define CoefBlur 1

// Set values of the sharpening amount
#define SharpenEdge 1.2
#define Sharpen_val0 0.5


/*------------------------------------------------------------------------------
BLOOM
------------------------------------------------------------------------------*/



/*------------------------------------------------------------------------------
TECHNICOLOR
------------------------------------------------------------------------------*/
#define TechniAmount 0.3 // 1.00 = Max
#define TechniPower 6.0 // lower values = whitening

// lower values = stronger channel
#define redNegativeAmount 1.0 // 1.00 = Max
#define greenNegativeAmount 0.7 // 1.00 = Max
#define blueNegativeAmount 0.7 // 1.00 = Max


/*------------------------------------------------------------------------------
TONEMAP
------------------------------------------------------------------------------*/
#define Gamma 1.00
#define Exposure 0.00
#define Saturation 0.70 // use negative values for less saturation.
#define BlueShift 0.00 // Higher = more blue in image.
#define Bleach -0.04 // Bleach bypass, higher = stronger effect
#define Defog 0.090 // Strength of Lens Colors.
#define FogColor float4(0.06, 0.10, 0.08, 1.00) //Lens-style color filters for Blue, Red, Yellow, White.


/*------------------------------------------------------------------------------
SEPIA
------------------------------------------------------------------------------*/
#define Earthyellow // Color Tone, available tones can be seen in ColorTones.PNG (Do not use spaces in the name!)
#define GreyPower 1 //(Valid Values = 1 to 9, use decimals for finetuning), defines how much of the grey color you wish to blend in
#define SepiaPower 1.2 //(Valid Values = 1 to 9, use decimals for finetuning), defines how much of the color tone you wish to blend in


/*------------------------------------------------------------------------------
VIGNETTE
------------------------------------------------------------------------------*/
// Vignette effect, process by which there is loss in clarity towards the corners and sides of the image, like a picture frame
#define VignetteCenter float2(0.500, 0.500) // Center of screen for effect.
#define VignetteRadius 0.9 // lower values = stronger radial effect from center
#define VignetteAmount -0.50 // Strength of black. -2.00 = Max Black, 1.00 = Max White.


/*------------------------------------------------------------------------------
POST_SHARPEN
------------------------------------------------------------------------------*/
// Controls additional sharpening applied after previous processing. Strength should be max 0.25!
float Sharpen = 0.01;


/*------------------------------------------------------------------------------
FINAL_LIMITER
------------------------------------------------------------------------------*/
// Controls the strenght of the limiter. 1.000 for default setting
int LimiterStrenght = 1.000;

 

[J-Rock]

I guess they mean enhanced compared to the original maps?

That's how it seemed to me too.

 

[ghst]

Looks like they've cut off the rightmost bit of Karkand, removing Warehouse and Factory. Seems dumb. Will probably lead to more clog at the bridge and a less dynamic map.

looks like we're getting the gimped micro versions designed for half the optimum player count.

not content with abominations like metro, dice are retroactively raping the memory of your favourite bf2 maps.

 

[ACE 1991]

That was easily the best battlefield 3 trailer yet. I'm going to live in wake island and karkand during christmas break.

 

[Guerrillas in the Mist]

I actually didn't think there were any fully destructible buildings, imagine my surprise when I bring a building down on four enemies while suppressing an enemy position in a BMP on Canal. The kills didn't come up as destruction, though.

Also, this looks utterly boss, can't wait for some good ol' Wake Island carnage, although I miss the moveable ships: Real Men beached the Destroyer near the airbase and shelled the crap out of it.

 

[matt05891]

I really hope all of the flags in the 32 player Karakand are on the console otherwise I will be sad. Fighting across that bridge was probably my second favorite part of that map.

If not... looks like it's time to get it for my pc.

 

[childplease]

Yea after watching the trailer again its safe to say this game needs a theater mode.

 

[Arment]

Thought this was the general discussion thread woops.

 

[Kyaw]

Are using the latest config he posted? There looks to be a problem with some of the lines.

Yeah, the lines are not on the same line, i fixed it myself.

 

[RibbedHero]

Some guy on reddit made these side by side comparisons between B2K and BF2.

Gallery here:

http://imgur.com/a/AtUtc#0

 

[soulassssns]

looks like we're getting the gimped micro versions designed for half the optimum player count.

not content with abominations like metro, dice are retroactively raping the memory of your favorite bf2 maps.

Cannot please every gamer and apparently that includes drama queens such as yourself.

 

[Cuban Legend]

No Arica Harbor is a sin against God and man alike.

bro, i like you sand all that. But Arica Harbor was not the best map the console BF games had to offer...

Case in point: Bridge Too Far from BF:MC on the xbox360. that map was like the sweet nectar of the gods.

 

[Cobra84]

http://wiki.bf2s.com/_media/maps/battlefield-2/karkand_32.jpg
looks like we're getting the gimped micro versions designed for half the optimum player count.

not content with abominations like metro, dice are retroactively raping the memory of your favourite bf2 maps.

It's bigger than the 32 player version, the cement factory flag is still there. I'm not sure why the last 1/6 of the of a somewhat linear map is so important.

 

[Anton Sugar]

It's bigger than the 32 player version, the cement factory flag is still there. I'm not sure why the last 1/6 of the of a somewhat linear map is so important.

Didn't you hear? Battlefield 3 sucks, bro.

 

[goldsoundz]

7 CP maps will make this much more closer to a REAL Battlefield experience. Thank you very much, DICE.

 

[outsida]

Advised and ready.

 

[Raide]

bro, i like you sand all that. But Arica Harbor was not the best map the console BF games had to offer...

Case in point: Bridge Too Far from BF:MC on the xbox360. that map was like the sweet nectar of the gods.

Fuuuuuuuu! We need this, ASAP!!

 

[Nostalgia~4ever]

I guess they mean enhanced compared to the original maps?

once again, no there is more destruction than vanilla BF3.

"There's a lot of destruction in BF3, but the Karkand map pack, when you play it, it's a different level, even more so than in BF3, of destruction in there,

http://pc.ign.com/articles/121/1211321p2.html

 

[Kibbles]

Case in point: Bridge Too Far from BF:MC on the xbox360. that map was like the sweet nectar of the gods.

Oh sweet memories, I totally forgot about that. Good schtuff.

 

[KaYotiX]

SOOOOOO GOOOOD!!!!!! OMFG!!!!

 

[sp3000]

Cannot please every gamer and apparently that includes drama queens such as yourself.

Please go ahead and try to justify why it was necessary to remove that side of the map? Was it really so hard to just copy the 64 player version instead of some strange combination between the 32 and 64 one?

 

[ghst]

Please go ahead and try to justify why it was necessary to remove that side of the map? Was it really so hard to just copy the 64 player version instead of some strange combination between the 32 and 64 one?

i gave up questioning dice's conquest map decisions about 10 minutes in to staring at the same flight of stairs and enacting my very own ad-hoc turret sequence for an entire round of metro.

there's a lot to like about battlefield 3, but the map design veers between approaching former glories and incomprehensibly awful.

 

[SapientWolf]

Please go ahead and try to justify why it was necessary to remove that side of the map? Was it really so hard to just copy the 64 player version instead of some strange combination between the 32 and 64 one?

I haven't seen that many teams mount a Conquest Assault comeback from the Wherehouse or the Factory. It's usually game over by then anyway. I think their aim was to prevent all those NE spawns from fueling a stalemate at train accident, which was a lot more common.

 

[Nostalgia~4ever]

I haven't seen that many teams mount a Conquest Assault comeback from the Wherehouse or the Factory. It's usually game over by then anyway. I think their aim was to prevent all those NE spawns from fueling a stalemate at train accident, which was a lot more common.

This.

 

[ghst]

I haven't seen that many teams mount a Conquest Assault comeback from the Wherehouse or the Factory. It's usually game over by then anyway. I think their aim was to prevent all those NE spawns from fueling a stalemate at train accident, which was a lot more common.

train accident passchendaele re-enactments will become infinitely more common if the assaulting side doesn't have the opportunity to harass and secure a foothold on the far side of the island, with no opportunity to sneak a flag and secure a flank.

 

[Anton Sugar]

I haven't seen that many teams mount a Conquest Assault comeback from the Wherehouse or the Factory. It's usually game over by then anyway. I think their aim was to prevent all those NE spawns from fueling a stalemate at train accident, which was a lot more common.

Yeah. I'm not a fan at all of that section of the map.

 

[Conrad Link]

Needs more DC Lost Village.

Ah memories.

 

[SapientWolf]

train accident passchendaele re-enactments will become infinitely more common if the assaulting side doesn't have the opportunity to harass and secure a foothold on the far side of the island, with no opportunity to sneak a flag and secure a flank.

Train accident will pretty much decide the game without those extra backspawns because the defense won't really have anywhere to hide.

 

[ghst]

Train accident will pretty much decide the game without those extra backspawns because the defense won't really have anywhere to hide.

that sounds even worse, completely mitigating the entire second half/endgame of that level.

 

[SapientWolf]

that sounds even worse, completely mitigating the entire endgame of that level.

If you lost Hotel, Square, Suburb, and Train Accident your team deserves to lose. People shouldn't have to reenact Metro for 20 minutes after the game should have been over. Maybe defense will actually defend Suburb this time around.

 

[ghst]

If you lost Hotel, Square, Suburb, and Train Accident your team deserves to lose. People shouldn't have to reenact Metro for 20 minutes after the game should have been over. Maybe defense will actually defend Suburb this time around.

now you're thinking like dice.

 

[Teknopathetic]

"Return of Conquest Assault mode"

Can't wait to play on B2K only servers.

 

[Xux]

Why do sites list the MP5 when the beta files said it was the HK53? It's not like the guns look at all alike or anything.

 

[Anton Sugar]

Why do sites list the MP5 when the beta files said it was the HK53? It's not like the guns look at all alike or anything.

I guess it's whatever this is. Looks like an H&K. Maybe a little too short to be a 53?

 

[demolitio]

Holy shit. The L85 is coming back? I've been missing that gun for a long time now since it was a beast at medium-long ranges. It's my favorite weapon in SOCOM too.

Wake Island is actually kind of cool again solely for the fact that we get to see how far the series has come over time and how the graphics keep advancing. It's literally like a spreadsheet where they can show how the upgrades change the map.

 

[The Faceless Master]

seriously, i always wondered why they changed from Double Assault Conquest in BC1 to Head-On Conquest in BC2. i'd really love it if they went to Double Assault Lines Conquest in BC3.

 

[mercenar1e]

Lowered Contrast + Smooth FXAA:


Mr. Nothin can you please post the settings for that?

 

[Rygar 8 Bit]

Dat wake island

 

[Enkidu]

Needs more DC Lost Village.

Ah memories.

If they're going to go through mod stuff then I want a Battlefield Pirates pack!

 

[wwm0nkey]

Fuuuuuuuu! We need this, ASAP!!

No you know what we need from BF2:MC?

BackStab!

 

[Max]

24/7 Wake here I come.

 

[Xux]

I guess it's whatever this is. Looks like an H&K. Maybe a little too short to be a 53?

http://pnmedia.gamespy.com/screenshots/pbf/31234090.jpg

No, that's an AKS-74u.

 

[Sanjay]

Cannot please every gamer and apparently that includes drama queens such as yourself.

That pic shows that nearly half the map is cut, how is that being a drama queen?

once again, no there is more destruction than vanilla BF3.



http://pc.ign.com/articles/121/1211321p2.html

So more like BC2 then?

 

[Hellcrow]

I guess it's whatever this is. Looks like an H&K. Maybe a little too short to be a 53?

http://pnmedia.gamespy.com/screenshots/pbf/31234090.jpg

Isn't Noken one of the dudes behind the 'Mine' videoes fra BF2?

 

[Enkidu]

Isn't Noken one of the dudes behind the 'Mine' videoes fra BF2?

He is, apparently he works as a video editor for DICE nowadays. I guess they like hiring people from the community.

 

[eiskaltnz]

So hyped for this, more good Conquest maps is what I want.

Karkand grenade spam is the best grenade spam. The most points I have ever got as medic in any game has been on that map.

 

[Anton Sugar]

B2K QA

Unlocks carried over to Vanilla BF3

All the weapons that you unlock while playing Back to Karkand expansion pack will be usable when playing Battlefield 3.

Introducing Assignments

WIth Back to Karkand will come a new feature called “Assignments”. These will essentially be objective based tasks you can accept and will gain rewards from it.

Enhanced Destruction

The Destruction will be turned up a new level in Back to karkand.

Maps with BF2 Flag Structure

The levels in Back to Karkand will bring back the traditional Conquest Assault Gameplay. What this means is one team will start off with most of the flags, and the other team will have to capture those. This is the traditional map format we saw in Battlefield 2.

Karkand stats contribute to global stats

Everything you earn in Karkand will be contributed towards your soldier’s global score.

All game modes available

You’ll be able to play all gamemodes on back to Karkand maps. That means Rush on Wake Island, oh lala!

December 2011 Release

A specific date has yet to be released but it’s right around the corner!

Fuck yes! So universal rotation, weapons, and game modes? Fuck yes!

Really like the assignments--loved this in Homefront and Section 8.

No, that's an AKS-74u.

Hmm...the Engy AK has a very visible wooden foregrip that this one doesn't.

Animations are so good.

 

[Anton Sugar]

EDIT: dammit, dp