Just goes to show that dropping two flags on Wake furthers my point that Conquest in BF3 is shit and people should go back to Rush.
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Battlefield 3 | Console Community Thread | Pleasant Entertainment
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Just goes to show that dropping two flags on Wake furthers my point that Conquest in BF3 is shit and people should go back to Rush.
Ha.
HollovVpo1nt
Banned
Beasted 87-17 on Metro. My clanmember/squadmember and I practically won that match for us. I always question the actions of my teammates. The stupidity levels are so intense I want to
to every teammember and slap them.
to every teammember and slap them.
Laugh all you want but shitty 3 flag is boring as shit. DICE's excuse that "not enough people were around the flags in 1943" is bullshit and they know it.
Getting people to move instead of "DERP ALL THE FLAGS ARE TAKEN CAMP THEIR BASE"/"TWO FLAGS TAKEN HOLD THEM!" is better than those.
I have it for both 360 and PS3, though I play the PS3 version more. I've logged in 825 hrs on PS3 and about 20 on 360.
Laugh all you want but the M-COM positions in BF3 are retarded as shit. I was a big for of the gametype in BC2 but the bottlenecks in BF3 ruin Rush for me. Trying to arm the B M-COM in the first phase of Seine Crossing is impossible if you don't do it right at the start. Even that can be very difficult against competent players.
Stuff like that ruins it for me.
endlessflood
Member
Actually DICE said nothing of the sort. Gustav Halling pointed out that Wake Island was redesigned (and made considerably smaller) for BF1943 to suit 24 players. Wake Island in BF3 is a proper remake of the original 1942 map so it's much larger than the BF1943 version. He pointed out that when they tested 5 flags and 24 players on the full size version, it sucked, so they went to 3 flags.
OdysseusVA
Banned
Feel free to add me on XBL if you'd like. I don't have it on PS3 :/
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Yeah, he stated it turned out to be 1v1 at flags when they tested 5 flag Wake. Though I feel that could have been fixed with a carrier for the RU base and some other changes
- Two jets on each side and removing attack helicopters
or
- One jet and little bird/z11 on each side
With one jet for whichever team captures the airbase. Dropping the attack helicopters may rub some the wrong way, but in my opinion would have turned out better than what we ended up with.
The Faceless Master
Member
and yet they have bigger maps with more playable area.
the problem here is you take him at his word despite all the evidence of DICE's testing of BF3 being laughable.
it probably seemed too big under gentleman's rules...
Old Gimlet Eyes
Member
Lol. The gentlemen's rules quote from demize gets me every time.
Their has to be a way to keep people playing.
endlessflood
Member
Haha, I never said I believed him faceless! I was just straightening out the facts
Having said that, BF1943's Wake was perfect for 24 players, so it doesn't take a giant leap of faith to think that increasing the size of the map considerably would negatively affect its playability.
Old Gimlet Eyes
Member
Well until the patch comes out, you can just drive a tank across the bay....
The Faceless Master
Member
i got that email and i play almost every day.
Oh man, the C-RAM on the carrier on Kharg Island (Rush)... I spent the whole round in it, killing the poor fools on the beach (we still lost). Went 25/0. Even got a headshot, 451 meters. And the next round, the other team had realized how good the turret was and used it against us...
The AA turrets need to be tweaked i think. Killing aircraft with them is too difficult, they're far more effective as anti-ground emplacements.
The AA turrets need to be tweaked i think. Killing aircraft with them is too difficult, they're far more effective as anti-ground emplacements.
The Faceless Master
Member
you want to roll with a squad of friends, at least 1 of the squads in almost every SDM games is going to be a squad of friends playing together, and they're probably going to win.
The Faceless Master
Member
i dunno about that... while some of the people who played BC2 may not be around much... or ever... there's lots of new blood!
what really changed is most people switched to SQ because Rush is hard now.
I don't think it's fair to say that people changed to Conquest because Rush is hard. I'll play whatever mode I find friends playing. Olimpia always preferred Conquest, and he is by far the easiest one to find playing the game.
Rush isn't hard, it's stupid now. So many bad decisions in the infantry maps reward bad players and teams. When gaf plays together we usually win most Rush games, with the exception being Metro and Bazaar sometimes.
Still, I always enjoy playing with gaffers, regardless of the game mode or if we win or lose.
And that's why I stopped playing. Since you're always with them instead of playing with me.
The input lag and stupid decisions with shit like the flashlight is what made me go away. Maybe the patch will bring me back, but too much bullshit that needs to be fixed for me to enjoy the game. I actually like what they've done to Rush. I just hate how the high-level play plays out (LOL SPAM THE USAS OR FLASHLIGHT TO ANNOY THE ENEMY INTO LOSING) now a days.
Dreamgazer
Member
The Faceless Master
Member
flashlight usage seems to be down a lot, it's mostly recons with sidearms nowadays... everyone wants to run that extra mag on USAS and foregrip on FAMAS
play Vietnam and i'll join.
Is anyone playing Vietnam though?
Also BC1 is up and down with 12 players/24 player full games for me at times. Some days I get 6 players, other days I get 24 which is more than the 18 players I had two years ago. Crazy.
The Faceless Master
Member
i just want to get the trophies!
olimpia84
Member
Nice way to set up even teams DICE. Down three players for the most part and we still almost managed to win...I want that Bazaar game back.
And faceless, next time we have shitty teammates like tonight please help me cap the flags sooner in the game that way I don't die of a nervous breakdown >.>
And faceless, next time we have shitty teammates like tonight please help me cap the flags sooner in the game that way I don't die of a nervous breakdown >.>
PROSTHETIC
Neo Member
Yeah I felt kinda bad about leaving faceless on the ground on kharg island. I was in a jet fighting off 2 jets and a chopper and before I knew it the game was over lol.
To combat that, use the MAV to roadkill the snipers and then destroy the spawn beacon.
The problem with BF3 is that it's clearly designed for PC, whereas BC2 was designed for consoles. this is great for PC players, but then plz don't release broken games on consoles. there just seems to be a lack of focus in the game. Seems like another 6 months of development time would've helped a lot.
Conquest is much better iN BC2 where the maps are actually designed for 24 players.
Conquest is much better iN BC2 where the maps are actually designed for 24 players.
Conquest is just fine with 24 IMO. But then i don't particularly like Rush in BF3 so it's not like i have a lot of choice (TDM is not Battlefield, Squad Rush/DM are not Battlefield).
Of course this depends on map too, some linear maps are not good for Conquest regardless of the player amount (Operation Metro, though it is fun in different way, namely seeing if you can break through the defense line at B). Caspian Border doesn't work with 24 players really. Noshar Canals works fine. IMO of course.
We need a map that has many tanks (3-4 per team) and IFVs (2-3 per team) and no jets nor helis...
Conquest with 24 players is fine, but my issue is there is too few flags to where there is no constant push. Any team that gets 2 of the 3 flags in Conquest can them split their team up and roll the other team to an easy win. Whereas in 1943 or BC1 the more flags you take (or take them all!) in 5+ flag Conquest means a faster bleed but also you can't protect them all. So it's a constant pushing unless the other team sucks to where you can't cap all flags easy.
It's why I hate BC2/BF3's Conquest modes: Because it's boring in comparison to Rush's constant pushing forward and BC1/1943's conquest mode.
I guess they could have a different mode of conquest with larger maps and maybe slower cap times. Would be fun on maps like Caspian Border.
MarkMclovin
Member
So the Tunguska has now become a complete rape machine?
Got nailed constantly on the attacking team, by it and couldn't even cross the water. On the next round, I decided to try the same. Not even used it before.
Ended up doing 25 kills, and took out 5 or 6 vehicles in 1 round.
Got nailed constantly on the attacking team, by it and couldn't even cross the water. On the next round, I decided to try the same. Not even used it before.
Ended up doing 25 kills, and took out 5 or 6 vehicles in 1 round.
ErasureAcer
Banned
Colonel Service Star 50 finally. Have yet to play with a GAFfer yet.
I see what you're saying, but I feel like a lot of the games on maps like Kharg, Caspian, and even Firestorm, I'll spend entire games just rushing around in a tank (alone, of course) constantly capturing and recapturing points with nary an encounter because half of each team is either in the air or camping vehicle spawns.
Dreamgazer
Member
How many people would be interested in this for the week?
3/1/2012 - Thursday - BF1943 Game Night.
3/2/2012 - Friday - BC2 Rush Night
3/3/2012 - Saturday - BC2 Conquest Night.
edit: PS3
3/1/2012 - Thursday - BF1943 Game Night.
3/2/2012 - Friday - BC2 Rush Night
3/3/2012 - Saturday - BC2 Conquest Night.
edit: PS3
Due to work constraints I can only play late nights on weekends so I´m onboard for BC2 Rush and BC2 Conquest. Playing again on a full GAF team would be awesome!
Dreamgazer
Member
I would be happy if we can even get 6 people.
Last I recall, a couple of people sold off their copies of bc2 right before the launch of bf3.
I think 4 flags is perfect for 24 players. 5 flags on only certain maps. Its just stupid that dice uses the same map for 24 and 32 players. It'd be better if they just make some console specific and for the love of GOD please stop trying to make maps that work both in conquest AND rush! Design maps specifically for each gametype.
I'd be down. Though I'm not so well versed in BC2, most of the little time I spent was in Vietnam.
olimpia84
Member
This round was one for the books; the last time I looked at the tickets it was 16 vs 3 on favor of the other team. I can't believe we managed to win.
A Canals game followed and I took four choppers down with point blank cannon shots
I can do Rush/Conquest. Probably the Conquest meetup fits my schedule better. Anyways, I'll just keep looking at my FL and see if you guys are playing and then hop in.
A Canals game followed and I took four choppers down with point blank cannon shots
I can do Rush/Conquest. Probably the Conquest meetup fits my schedule better. Anyways, I'll just keep looking at my FL and see if you guys are playing and then hop in.