And you are on the sales thread of a game you don't care about because...?
Nvm, you were in the Bayo performance threads and every Bayo 2 thread just to derail it, theres little sense in even responding to your posts.
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Bayonetta 2 off to a slow start in Japan [Update: Week 2 sales]
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And you are on the sales thread of a game you don't care about because...?
Nvm, you were in the Bayo performance threads and every Bayo 2 thread just to derail it, theres little sense in even responding to your posts.
ThoughtsOfSpeaking
Banned
Im talking about fans of the first game.
Not to mention, the PS360 have cultivated that audience. Wet, Wolverine: Orgins, Heavenly sword, DMC4, NG2, Xblades, GOW3+A and 2 Collections, DMC collection Bullet witch, Ninja blade, DmC, NGS, LoS, LoS2, NG3+ RE and thats just off the top of my head.
Not to mention the crossover with traditional beatemups on PSN/XBLA, Musous and fighters.
The WiiU has a bad port of Razors edge, TW101 which is hardly casual friendly and Hyrule warriors.
There is a huge difference being happy a good game gets sales then gloating over a good game bombing because u hate the idea of it being on platforms you don't support.
Mihael Mello Keehl
Banned
How much would bayo 2 need to sell to get in that category?
Does anyone know how much Sony spent on them?
Also are those numbers Japan only or worldwide?
For sure Japan only
ninjablade
Banned
I never said anything bad about the game other then thinking the graphics are not impressive. You're just extremely defensive when it comes to this game.
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
PS2 Shadow of the Colossus 129,492 233,074
PS2 ICO 15,940 85,005
PS3 Shadow of the Colossus + ICO HD 16,656 154,128
SoTC was pushed far more. Bayo 2 would be lucky to have a LTD that equals SoTC's first week of sales.
We don't need to work in the industry to be able to make educated guesses. Please think.
We know SEGA was disappointed with Bayo 1 sales and refused to greenlight a sequel. This would not be the case if it was a commercial success
We know Bayo 2 bombed and will likely sell a fraction of what the original did.
We know its budget is going to be around the same ballpark as the original since its made by the same team, has a similar dev time and scope.
Adding these together draws the conclusion that Bayo 2 will be a financial failure.
I've never heard Sony come out with official numbers. So they could have cost between $5 and 35 Trillion dollars to make. We literally have no way of knowing so much as a ball park figure.
JetSetRadio
Banned
At least there was a start.
ICO sold like shit worldwide, though.
Bayo 2 won't sell more than Shadow of the Colossus, but I'm pretty sure it will surpass ICO worldwide.
Not that it matters or justifies sales of any of these titles anyway.
As i said, no point at all, and your post history is open to everyone.
You keep derailing another thread.
I have to agree with that. Only the super hardcore fans will buy a console to play Platinum games. Everyone else will shrug and play something else. You can't blame people for not giving Bayonetta the same value that you do. You can blame them, however, for complaining ad nauseam about the platform it runs on.
See there's your problem. Not everyone will think a game is good. It's the opinion of the player whether a game is good or not. And I don't think anyone is gloating because Bayonetta 2 isn't on Playstation or Xbox. The WiiU has gotten this kind of treatment since it launched.
Not that it changes your point much, but disn't they actually greenlight it and then eventually canned it?
The Engine is the same, i don´t think B2 was in the same region as B1. There was no need to begin this Game from the scratch...
TheGreatMightyPoo
Banned
We do???
Mihael Mello Keehl
Banned
Oh yes you do, how can anyone take what yall saying as serious? Where are your credentials? If you applied for a job in the industry analyzing sales and on your resume you put Neogaf NPD threads, you think anybody gonna take you seriously? And like I said before relax with the, "please think" shit I aint insulting you.
maquiladora
Member
Truth.
TheBlackMarvel
Member
I was under the impression that the LTD for both games was low.
More than happy to be proved wrong, I love both of them!
If you have such an issue with people discussing sales and the ramifications of said sales, what are you doing here?
Air Zombie Meat
Member
For sure. I know I'm really looking forward to playing it soon.
It was a big enough game that no other publisher wanted to touch it.
Not really. I think it would be better if the game didn't exist and Nintendo invested its money in a game that would be more successful for them.
TheGreatMightyPoo
Banned
Even if the game wasn't nearly as good or compelling???
I've seen it cheapest at Yamada Labi, every other place has it for ¥7900 or higher like Yodobashi.
mcz117chief
Member
So, how long till the game is released on other platforms ? It has to happen sooner or later, right ? Maybe a year or two ?
Still, the numbers are not very surprising, I think they will try to sell the production licence to microsoft and sony so that they can get more money out of it.
Still, the numbers are not very surprising, I think they will try to sell the production licence to microsoft and sony so that they can get more money out of it.
Wow, I didn't even realized that there is a thread about this. Is this a habit for every low selling game on Japanese market? And so many people passionate about Bayonetta.
Since it was announced that Nintendo picked it up from the garbage can most of the people have said that it will bomb. Most of the people in the Media Create thread estimated about 20k for the first week. There is a Operation Platinum going on to get it to 1 mio. because no one believe(d) it would reach that by itself anyhow. And it probably won't. But Bayonetta 2 being a bomb won't heal the salty tears of many around here. The only thing that will do it will make sure that there won't be a Bayonetta 3.
Meanwhile the game of the year will arrive at my house in less than a month in that beautiful First Print edition. As a warm-up for that I will enjoy the review thread with another round of salt.
Since it was announced that Nintendo picked it up from the garbage can most of the people have said that it will bomb. Most of the people in the Media Create thread estimated about 20k for the first week. There is a Operation Platinum going on to get it to 1 mio. because no one believe(d) it would reach that by itself anyhow. And it probably won't. But Bayonetta 2 being a bomb won't heal the salty tears of many around here. The only thing that will do it will make sure that there won't be a Bayonetta 3.
Meanwhile the game of the year will arrive at my house in less than a month in that beautiful First Print edition. As a warm-up for that I will enjoy the review thread with another round of salt.
Unlikely. It would need Nintendo's blessing.
OrbitalBeard
Member
Yeah, probably in a year or two when Nintendo goes third party and starts publishing games on other platforms. I'm looking forward to the iOS version myself, since Nintendo will be the king of mobile.
If bayo doesn't appeal then it irrelevant if it is good or not. Obviously people want games that appeal to them to be made.
I have more then enough to play so I'm happy that Nintendo funded it so others can have it, but others might not be so generous.
Probably never? Nintendo published the game, I'm sure they'll rather eat the loss than to publish a game on other platforms?
TheGreatMightyPoo
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I don't believe there is a Wii U emulator yet.
Possibly....if the upcoming Nintendo OS has its roots in the Wii U then there's always a chance we'll see it ported to Nintendo's next handheld.
Considering how Nintendo has funded the game, the only other platform you'd ever get it on is PC, but that's when/if Dolphin gets solid Wii U emulation support.
That appears to be your only bet.
mcz117chief
Member
which game would that be ? Alien Isolation, Shadow of Mordor, Evil Within or something else ?
TheBlackMarvel
Member
Yep, because Bayonetta 2 existing has stopped Nintendo developing other games. They sure are lucky Mario Kart, Smash, Splatoon etc are all appearing ex nihlo.
Like I said before, whether a game is good or not is up to the player. What you think is a good game may not be a good game to me and vice versa.
Bayonetta 2 is made by a 3rd party and was moneyhatted by Nintendo. Mario Kart, Smash and Splatoon are first party developed games. There's a big difference there.
As a reference Infamous first week sales on the PS4, and it didn't get a thread:
02./00. [PS4] Infamous: Second Son <ACT> (Sony Computer Entertainment) {2014.05.22} (¥7.452) - 34.801 / NEW
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
Did you not read the OP?
Please think was not meant as an insult. I apologise if you feel insulted but I meant it literally. Like seriously.
Mihael Mello Keehl
Banned
Because Id like to see what people are discussing about the sales of Bayo 2 in Japan? I have no problem with sales threads but to declare things as certain or fact is pretty ridiculous. Let alone the console warish stuff underneath. Funny thing is this stuff goes down online, but if this type of discussion was to be had irl with actual people who know this stuff, in the industry, it would be a different story. Then we will be getting educated.
mcz117chief
Member
Wow, calm down, I was just asking. So it won't come ever, ok, I can live with that, but you don't have to bombard me like that
Didn't Microsoft say the same thing about Mass Effect though ?
Irony is not your best skill.
Edit: I hope it's not reading comprehension failure though.
Infernal Monkey
Member
My uncle who works as a pot plant at Nintendo told me Sanyo and McDonald's are planning an Amiga port in 2015. It'll come with a bonus VHS tape with early footage of Bayonetta 3 for the PocketStation.
TheGreatMightyPoo
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That's true but the first one got critical praise almost across the board and the second one is likely going to do the same.
This is not your common above average game.
That would be Devil's Third