I really think they should do that, specially now that Bayonetta could potentially become a Nintendo exclusive I.P. A Bayonetta Special Edition should be out before Bayonetta 2.
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Bayonetta 2 - WiiU (Director: Yusuke Hashimoto, Pub: Nintendo, Supervision:Kamiya)
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I really think they should do that, specially now that Bayonetta could potentially become a Nintendo exclusive I.P. A Bayonetta Special Edition should be out before Bayonetta 2.
I'd buy this so much.
I'm not sure if that's possible, but if it is, why the hell not.
I see what you're saying, but I'm not sure how true this is.
RTSes are practically unplayable on a gamepad, and even the games designed specifically to make it happen (Halo Wars) haven't gone well. In that regard, it seems more likely that this will result in consoles adapting a control scheme more befitting the genre, such as how the Wii has become mostly reliant on the classic/GC controller (and Madcatz's TvC stick) to support a fighting game community. Yes, GG:AC had motion controls, but nobody used them because they were ass backwards and all of the involved parties knew it. A similar example would be the release of UT3 on the PS3; the game is basically impossible to play properly with a gamepad, so the game shipped with KB/M support.
As it is, a lot of design effort is put towards homogenizing input and UI compatibility towards the gamepad (Call of Duty, Skyrim, Dragon Age; there are probably others) even when the gamepad is not the traditional or most effective control scheme, and the KB/M control scheme remains largely dominant on that platform. I don't see this as a major concern right now because the players of the game know how best to interface with them, and unless the developers start actively preventing people from using less efficient or more efficient but less popular control schemes (gamepads for FPSes, arcade sticks for fighting games) I don't see it as a sufficient enough concern to discourage mutliplatform releases.
Having said that, as control schemes continue to become more abstract, I can see this line of thinking becoming more relevant. I wouldn't say that many titles on the DS that I've played have yet reached the threshold (TWEWY comes to mind fist for me, and even that is being ported; Ouendan/EBA comes close, but that exists on the PC and it's still pretty fun) but the games on that platform in particular are getting closer as designers get more and more creative. But for home consoles -- where the option exists to change the input interface entirely on the fly -- I don't see this as a concern.
In terms of Bayonetta, unless they do something radical -- like making the game controlled entirely by the Wii Fit board (please don't do something radical to Bayonetta) -- I can't see how this concern is relevant to Bayonetta, except that if you asked me to pick a current generation console that has a default control scheme least adapted to playing Bayonetta (between the X360, Wii, PS3, and the PC), I would be pretty confident in saying the Wiimote/nanchuck.* In parlance with my argument, ever since this game was announced I've just been assuming that we'd all be playing it with the classic controller.
*For others it may be a tossup between the Wiimote and KB/M. But I think we can all agree that the standard gamepad did a pretty good job of controlling Bayonetta.
Hot Coldman
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You just know Kamiya's gonna take over the Nintendo ninja clan.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
No I want Kamiya to do Star Fox so I can play as Wolf who strips when he performs special attacks.
Theonik
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I think it would be wiser to port the original over first.
Build up anticipation and probably fill a small release window gap.
Hot Coldman
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Can't let you do that.
Let's shake things up and ask a question regarding Bayonetta 2 itself. I know, discussing the game, shock horror amirite?
What characters would everyone like to see return?
Obviously Bayonetta will be back. Jeanne and Rodin are absolute musts too. I'd love a bigger role for the latter. Don't care for Enzo or Luka though.
What characters would everyone like to see return?
Obviously Bayonetta will be back. Jeanne and Rodin are absolute musts too. I'd love a bigger role for the latter. Don't care for Enzo or Luka though.
Muchi Muchi Pink
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We... don't know if it's Bayo or Jeanne, yet. I could totally see a prequel when the witchwars happened.
I would buy it, too. I own the 360 version, but would like to see it run 1080p@60fps.
ShockingAlberto
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It's not like Bayonetta had a particularly large cast to begin with.
I'd be okay with Jeanne getting the boot if and only if they can produce rival fights of equal or better quality.
Rodin should stick around because I still owe his ass for that optional boss fight.
the witch outfits are the same color as their hair so it's not jeanne
Muchi Muchi Pink
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But the Symbols attached to the weapons, aren't Bayos either. Maybe she got closer to Luka afterwards? :>
Edith:
This should be at the weapons in the trailer shown.
I would not be opposed to relegating every character in Bayonetta 1 except for the titular vehicle to minor or even non-speaking roles.
ThoughtsOfSpeaking
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I'd be happy, but I wouldn't buy a Wii U to play it,
now I am buying one, I hope it is.
Karsticles
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Since it's on the Nintendo system, it will obviously be about little Bayonetta on her journey with her stuffed animal in a collectathon 3D platformer.
On topic, I hope to see Rodin come back, and I'm really excited about what new weapons we'll get to play with. Nothing in Bayonetta 1 really felt "right" to me in terms of weapon combinations. There was a lot of good stuff to play with, but nothing really clicked with me. I tend to like hard hitting, slow weapons. The flame claws didn't seem to be hitting hard enough, and my only other option were the Bazookas, which weren't bad, but weren't great either.
I would love to get a greatsword or battle axe this time.
You also described the thread!
Seven Force
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Oh man, I hope they can top that Rodin fight from the first game. Best optional boss this generation by far.
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"The cherub, the cherub, the cherub cherub, cherub, the cherub"
I haven't played the first game because I don't have a 360 or PS3, I might get a Wii U when it drops in price and has some games on it (don't like the titles they have right now) so I'd love to play the first game first. Hate playing a sequal without being able to play the first game.
The teaser trailer showed Bayonetta fighting a person who, to me, looks like he/she could replace Jeanne as Bayonetta's rival, and as such he/she looks like a promising enemy with his/her two-bladed... weapon thingie.
Pfft, Kilgore Glitch = win all battles and THEN SOME. :lol Helped during Infinite Climax mode but a shame the leaderboards couldn't be legit because of Kilgore abuse.
Wiimote+nunchuk controls with the GamePad used as a stand-up mini-map screen!!
Jaded Alyx
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Would you rather the game remained cancelled?
I hope the WiiU pad allows for a more dualshock-esque experience when holding down R1 and using the face buttons than the 360 pad does. Bayonetta was fine on the 360, but I almost always used the alternate inputs for R1 modified moves. Can't imagine playing a Devil May Cry game with the 360 pad because of this - it's the one great ergonomic flaw of the 360 pad's design. If I'm going to be playing a bunch of hardcore action games that require me to hold R1 while tapping face buttons on the WiiU, I hope it's comfortable to do so. I'm getting flashbacks to Metroid Prime on the Gamecube. No other game/controller has actually given me hand cramps, but squeezing R while tapping A in that game sure as hell did.
Characters in Bayonetta 2: I don't mind as long as there's more Jeanne. But I'm not that attached to any of the characters in the franchise, and I'd like that to change. I definitely felt more connected to Dante and Virgil after playing DMC 1/3, or even Nero in DMC4, than I did Bayonetta, Jeanne, Luca etc. Stronger character writing is all I really want from the story.
But as for gameplay, more distinctive weapons/fighting styles would be nice. That's one thing DMC still does better than Bayonetta. Bayonetta's combat is magnificent, but within that combat there could be more diversity between different weapons.
I'd also like Wicked Weaves to evolve, perhaps into something a little more like DMC1's Devil Trigger modified moves. There's definitely room to expand those attacks. And torture attacks were fun in the first game, but I could do without them next time. Perhaps leave them in, but remove the 'mash to finish' QTEs - just make them shorter so they don't break the flow of the combat so much. I didn't hate them the way they were, but I'd rather fill my meter, then hit the TA buttons and see Bayonetta lay down a short and sweet über-move, taking out a given enemy instantly and letting me move on immediately.
I'm sure we'll get these, but more animal forms! There's so much Platinum could do to expand the combat by playing around with that mechanic. It was brilliant in the last game, and could be so much better in the next one.
...So glad this franchise isn't dead.
Characters in Bayonetta 2: I don't mind as long as there's more Jeanne. But I'm not that attached to any of the characters in the franchise, and I'd like that to change. I definitely felt more connected to Dante and Virgil after playing DMC 1/3, or even Nero in DMC4, than I did Bayonetta, Jeanne, Luca etc. Stronger character writing is all I really want from the story.
But as for gameplay, more distinctive weapons/fighting styles would be nice. That's one thing DMC still does better than Bayonetta. Bayonetta's combat is magnificent, but within that combat there could be more diversity between different weapons.
I'd also like Wicked Weaves to evolve, perhaps into something a little more like DMC1's Devil Trigger modified moves. There's definitely room to expand those attacks. And torture attacks were fun in the first game, but I could do without them next time. Perhaps leave them in, but remove the 'mash to finish' QTEs - just make them shorter so they don't break the flow of the combat so much. I didn't hate them the way they were, but I'd rather fill my meter, then hit the TA buttons and see Bayonetta lay down a short and sweet über-move, taking out a given enemy instantly and letting me move on immediately.
I'm sure we'll get these, but more animal forms! There's so much Platinum could do to expand the combat by playing around with that mechanic. It was brilliant in the last game, and could be so much better in the next one.
...So glad this franchise isn't dead.
That is pretty funny. I wonder if people in the audience will boo Nintendo when the game is shown at E3 2013 with the words "Exclusively on Wii U" displayed on the screen. Then Kamiya stands up and says, "Fuck you, haters."
I looked up Bayonetta 2 Nintendo and just went through all the anger videos from people who video blog.
I like lost my shit laughing.
brochiller
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Lol this is amazing.
Eventhough this Megaton's shock wave has lost some power on it's second passage around the globe, it's still funny.
Good publicity. Hopefully it's on the radar of Nintendo fans now.
Spieler Eins
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whalleywhat
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Relevant in what sense? People tend to like to have a good buzz around their game. Of course, this outrage isn't bad buzz in the same way that something ME3's ending was. For the size and popularity (and sales potential) that Bayonetta has, I'd say this move has drawn an incredible amount of attention to WiiU as a platform.
Seems likely.
It probably delivers a good return on investment for Nintendo just in terms of prestige.
whalleywhat
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And to a crowd which they're clearly interested in drawing back in.
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