It kind of did.
Bitching that we expect 60FPS and he's tired of it. Good on him if he wants to play a slideshow, most of us don't.
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Bethesda is being extremely shady about The Evil Within's PC framerate
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It kind of did.
Bitching that we expect 60FPS and he's tired of it. Good on him if he wants to play a slideshow, most of us don't.
grandwizard
Member
I would be really disappointed if this was a locked 30, especially with the legacy of this engine having smooth framerates (although tied to physics rate). Even back in Quake 4 that was eventually patched to allow >60fps without the physics being affected. Bethesda needs to be more clear about this prerelease, the damage they did with the system requirements was already enough.
Dark Souls 2 is a great example of how certain game systems (AI, dodging, animations) break when the framerate goes over the "designed" cap.
Dash Kappei
Not actually that important
WTF
Bl@de
Member
Wtf? No. Ds2 played perfect on 60fps for me.
CyberPunked
Member
Oh God, they've locked the gamespeed to the FPS haven't they...
Dusk Golem
A 21st Century Rockefeller
My thought is this may be a possibility because that's how RE4 was done.
Imp the Dimp
Member
Even if it was locked, the PC modding community would release a 60fps patch within a week, let's be honest. PC gaming knows no limitations.
RandyBobandy
Banned
A Bethesda game on consoles will be lucky to get 20fps
wolfenstein did well
Backfoggen
Banned
Did you play it on consoles as well? It's pretty obvious that things get wonky at 60fps. You especially notice it with the weapons breaking sooner.
Prophet Steve
Member
This isn't always so easy. Dark Souls has issues with 60 FPS for example.
Many titles with a lock have that, games can possibly play at twice the speed or have some animations sped up or some other bugs.
And then you have people that want higher framerates and those are probably out of luck.
Free? Noooooo, you can't get free 60 FPS. Although I will admit it seems like a weird fit for the game.
It still plays perfectly fine. Like seriously, I would have *never* noticed if it hadn't been brought up on here. Calling it 'broken' is a ridiculous exaggeration.
DS2 is unlocked on consoles. I remember the thread about that but I haven't noticed anything out of the ordinary.
I meant that idtech5 has 60 fps hardwired into it so in order to get it down to 30 must have taken a lot of unnecessary work.
They probably wanted to add better lighting effects and other stuff into the game, and don't want it to be locked to 60fps with some kind of dynamic resolution
Yeah but RE4 is 10 years old and originally developed exclusively to single platform. You'd think they'd have learnt something in those 10 years, especially for a multiplatform game.
-MD-
Member
The 2x faster weapon breaking is like the only issue with 60fps DS2.
Even then it wasn't even an issue, I had 1 weapon break on me and then I never let it happen again, having them last 2x longer would make it so trivial that they may as well just remove the mechanic anyways.
VFX_Veteran
Banned
Sorry for OT but when is the review embargo lift on this game? Friday?
Backfoggen
Banned
Enemy animations are also affected as well as invincibility frames. I noticed it right away when I switched to PC.
It's not about whether or not it's an issue for you, but about how unlocking framerate can lead to gameplay changes.
Rhazer Fusion
Member
Yea, that's true enough.
I'd still like to hear about how unlocking to 60fps affects things in this game, though. Dark Souls 1 had a few tiny little issues at 60fps, but was otherwise entirely playable and far superior than playing at 30fps.
I will wait on a purchase of this game til there is more info on this. I cant see myself buying this at full-price(or near full-price) if I will be stuck playing it at 30fps.
Getting more and more worried about this port. The game runs 1080p30 on both consoles, yet PC apparently needs 4gb VRAM for that. Plus with them refusing to deny that the PC port is capped at 30fps, it's just sounding like a poorly optimised, quick 'n dirty effort.
If Bethesda had a reputation for good PC ports I'd give them the benefit of the doubt, but although their ports tend to work ok, they rarely seem to put much effort into them beyond that.
Would give anything to be wrong though, but right now I'm reconsidering my preorder, which sucks, as I'm massively hyped for this game.
If Bethesda had a reputation for good PC ports I'd give them the benefit of the doubt, but although their ports tend to work ok, they rarely seem to put much effort into them beyond that.
Would give anything to be wrong though, but right now I'm reconsidering my preorder, which sucks, as I'm massively hyped for this game.
Prophet Steve
Member
A framerate of 30 doesn't say anything about the amount of VRAM required. A framerate of 60 would likely require as much VRAM. Although I do doubt that it will be a very good port. Even if it is true that they were talking about shared VRAM, because that is just stupid.
s_mirage
Member
Pre-order cancelled! Although admittedly that's because I've overshot my gaming budget for the month.
I too am getting rather concerned about this port. I just hope we don't have another "Deus Ex: Invisible War" on our hands where the developers have pretty much hosed the engine through customizations.
I too am getting rather concerned about this port. I just hope we don't have another "Deus Ex: Invisible War" on our hands where the developers have pretty much hosed the engine through customizations.
I don't think Carmack would allow that to happen in his Tech5?
Then again, the 60fps lock hmm
Memorabilia
Member
Lol 10/10
OminoMichelin
Member
Tbh, enemy speed was fine at 60.
Hope they don't pull this again in the future though, they were lucky that it didn't create too many problems in DS2.
Yeah this sucks but it doesn't affect every enemy in the game.
-MD-
Member
Bethesda... If there is a 30 FPS lock... you know what I'll be doing.
Uninstalling Skyrim asap?
Bl@de
Member
Haha never noticed because I never played it at 30fps. I thought the quick attacks are simply part of the difficulty so I adjusted to it. Didn't seem broken to me. Same about durability. Just tought the game is very punishing
Well I was wrong then I guess. My bad.
onken
Member
Same. "Broken" is still a stupid exaggeration.
OminoMichelin
Member
Eh, I was JUST coming out of dark souls 1, so I noticed right away that something was "wrong" with the way enemies seemed to have no grace time for parries. But w/e, the point is that tying gameplay to FPS is a bad design decision, and no dev should do it if they plan to release a game on PC.
hobblygobbly
Member
30 FPS is not a deal-breaker for me as long as it runs at a consistent 30 FPS, one thing I can't stand in a game is fluctuating framerate. Besides, I'll have to see how the game plays itself at 30 FPS, for example, Dark Souls due to its mechanics/combat, the "weight" of the game does fine at 30 FPS (except some areas like Blighttown obviously), and 30 FPS doesn't have a huge negative impact on it. 60 frames Dark Souls is still better, but it's not as if having it at 30 was detracting from the gameplay combat.
The game was going to be a day one purchase for me but I think I'll give it a few days instead, I'd take 60 FPS over 30 FPS any day, but 30 FPS I'm fine with. Just don't do things like dropping to low 20s at places rapidly or for prolonged periods, that's my bane.
The game was going to be a day one purchase for me but I think I'll give it a few days instead, I'd take 60 FPS over 30 FPS any day, but 30 FPS I'm fine with. Just don't do things like dropping to low 20s at places rapidly or for prolonged periods, that's my bane.
That's not what they said. They said 4gb VRAM would be required for running 1080p with all effects turned on which will probably be a lot more taxing than anything the consoles will have. Resolution is far from the only thing that matters when it comes to graphics quality.
Tidus_Great
Banned
preorder cancelled. it's the age of the internet I should have all the info I need. companies keeping secrets or whatever and trying to hide the FPS is shady. We bought new consoles for better tech and we damn well deserve it.
sixteen-bit
Member
spin this into a positive
"framerate so bad, it's scary!"
"framerate so bad, it's scary!"
Hero_of_the_Day
Member
This shit is so 30FPS.
BibiMaghoo
Member
The guy works for a massive company and people are asking him for details not released on his personal twitter.
Of course he is fucking shady about it. He can speak and get in trouble at work, he can ignore everyone, or he can be 'shady' and non-committal.
Be fair people.
Of course he is fucking shady about it. He can speak and get in trouble at work, he can ignore everyone, or he can be 'shady' and non-committal.
Be fair people.