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[Amir0x]

why so low?

It's really just the 'lowest' possible metacritic it may get; I actually expect something more along the lines of 92 on metacritic or maybe an 89. My psychic powers are just giving me a super accurate range number ;P

 

[solarus]

Arthur Gies talking about integrity. Oh my god.

Damn, first post as well. Took the words right out of my mouth.

 

[Beckx]

Today I learned that game journalists think you should never complain about business models...except when those business models affect game journalists.

 

[The Elite]

Then break the embargo. If they won't be fair, publish ahead of time.

Yup. Every outlet needs to do it though. You don't want to be the bad apple in the bunch and lose the opportunity to receive advance review code in the future.

 

[jono51]

Stupid entitled "journalists". Publishers don't owe you anything so either pay up or shut up.

 

[ReturnOfTheRAT]

Geis and Geoff talking about integrity? Sessler quickly becoming one of the industry's biggest whiners, complete with faux outrage? This is rich.

2013 has gone crazy and it's only March.

 

[indigo-cyclops]

Every single person whining, including Sessler, has about as much credibility as IGN.

Zero.

This really saddens me because I was starting to see Sessler do great things; but him even chiming in on this the way he did really irks me.

 

[Derrick01]

He didn't write the Polygon review. Although he did have a lot to lecture us about how Maxis and game design works, especially for someone who admitted he has never played the game before.

Yeah sorry, it's easy to forget that part with how much he threw himself at the front of this.

 

[antitrop]

He gave a Simcity review that could have been written by EA PR and you couldn't tell the difference, it had that much positive hyperbole in it. Then when the post-launch fiasco happened he doubled down on twitter by being a condescending jerk to everyone who was calling him out (even the polite people) and refusing to admit he was wrong about anything, despite being proven factually wrong on many things.

As for the others how many times have we made threads calling out Kotaku and Polygon for ridiculous things they do?

And mother effin doritos pope himself is chiming in on this?

To be fair, the Polygon SimCity review was written by Russ Pitts, not Gies.

 

[Ivan A Nguyen]

Sounds like entitled reviewers who just want more website traffic. I think this is great.

 

[ItWasMeantToBe19]

It doesn't matter. You're all missing the point. This is a high profile game and it will average an 8.5-10 from almost every big site/publication because of that. The gaming industry doesn't operate like other industries where a product is reviewed. Those other people aren't pissed because of the lack of integrity, they're pissed that they can't exclusively award the game the same exact score IGN is going to first.

I think everyone understands the point.

Sounds like entitled reviewers who just want more website traffic. I think this is great.

Calling reviewers entitled over this would be awesome trolling.

 

[BearPawB]

Exclusive reviews do seem odd, but I think a "review-in-progress" is just as weird. Maybe for an MMO, but Bioshock Infinite? I don't get why an ongoing review is needed for a 10-15 hour shooter with no multiplayer. Color me confused.

more pageviews

 

[RoKKeR]

Why do game journalists feel so entitled to equal review windows??

Because reviews are huge click generators, which leads to revenue for the website. IGN will get more review hits because it will be the only one out there for a few days. They get more revenue, everybody else gets angry, and arguably their opinion will be biased towards the game they got exclusivity for.

 

[Resilient]

Was I that subtle?

Why does Gies ascertain not to upset the IGN gods in that last tweet?

 

[Atilac]

You want them to lose their jobs?

pft, like that would happen.

 

[Heavy's Sandvich]

I just don't understand.

They all fell over backwards to suggest gaming journalism was largely safe from the perils of undue influence, the free flights, free games and free xboxes meant they were able to keep their integrity.

But an exclusive interview might mean something shady? Is this is a tacit acknowledgement that gaming journalism has an unsavoury relationship with publishers?

 

[ironcreed]

Let's just hope that the 'integrity' of these other outlets is not swayed by this in their reviews.

 

[Zeouterlimits]

So just so we're clear:

Sending one outlet an early review copy: scum of the earth.

Sending all review outlets expensive special "press kits" with extra swag, or flying reviewers out to special review events in exotic places: absolutely fine.

Yeah, a lot of people only truly think about something when they're personally affected.
Sad really.

 

[Jigolo]

9.5/10 confirmed?

 

[BFIB]

 

[TheBaronOfNA]

Why do game journalists feel so entitled to equal review windows??

Jeff Gerstmann actually explained in one of his Jar Times: Traffic.

 

[Demon Ice]

Crap I guess I missed something big, I know about the whole Geoff Keighly Doritos and Mountain Dew thing but who is Arthur Gies, what is Polygon, and why do they suck?J


Edit: Oh, I see.

He gave a Simcity review that could have been written by EA PR and you couldn't tell the difference, it had that much positive hyperbole in it. Then when the post-launch fiasco happened he doubled down on twitter by being a condescending jerk to everyone who was calling him out (even the polite people) and refusing to admit he was wrong about anything, despite being proven factually wrong on many things.

 

[i-Lo]

So now that IGN gets an exclusive review, all the rest suddenly act like "objective journalists". What a sad joke. That said, exclusive reviews are the ones that I tend to trust the least.

 

[Vire]

It's really just the 'lowest' possible metacritic it may get; I actually expect something more along the lines of 92 on metacritic or maybe an 89. My psychic powers are just giving me a super accurate range number ;P

Haha, teasing. That's Fart of War's tag.

This thread is hilarious.

 

[apesh1t]

Should just make the review DLC for those that preordered it. That way everyone wins and ensures a fair score.

 

[Cyberia]

First post nailed it.

 

[inky]

Arthur Gies talking about integrity. Oh my god.

I always wanted to do a tag quote:

Derrick01
Mr. Accurate
(Today, 03:57 PM)

Seriously, it's not like this is fine and IGN are the paragons of integrity or anything, but Gies complaining after what his site did with Sim City got a good laugh out of me.

 

[ItWasMeantToBe19]

Jeff Gerstmann actually explained in one of his Jar Times: Traffic.

I think it's just a joke towards reviewers who call gamers "entitled" for complaining about anti-consumer tactics or for serious flaws in games.

 

[FStop7]

This all helps drive home the point that "professional" reviews and "professional" gaming news sites are obsolete.

 

[Grecco]

Exclusive reviews do seem odd, but I think a "review-in-progress" is just as weird. Maybe for an MMO, but Bioshock Infinite? I don't get why an ongoing review is needed for a 10-15 hour shooter with no multiplayer. Color me confused.

its to milk the bioshock content more.

 

[grimshawish]

 

[Odrion]

Arthur Gies talking about integrity. Oh my god.

 

[Nibel]

It's a shame that the publisher doesn't seem to have enough trust in its own product to let it speak for itself instead of paying a big and well known media outlet for a review which will obviously have a really high and bland score - especially since it's obvious that Irrational Games have created something really special

And none of the above mentioned persons who call themselves journalists have any fucking credibility; yes, it's a shitty situation for you guys, but don't act like you would say "No" if such a offer were made to you

 

[unbias]

Today I learned that game journalists think you should never complain about business models...except when those business models affect game journalists.

Boom! Headshot!

 

[SolidSnakex]

Because reviews are huge click generators, which leads to revenue for the website. IGN will get more review hits because it will be the only one out there for a few days. They get more revenue, everybody else gets angry, and arguably their opinion will be biased towards the game they got exclusivity for.

Jeff Gerstmann actually explained in one of his Jar Times: Traffic.

Are people not picking up on his sarcasm with the usage of 'entitled'? This goes back to some games journalists calling gamers entitled over certain things (ME3 ending, DLC etc.).

 

[Fistwell]

So much drama this past cple of weeks, what's up?

 

[indigo-cyclops]

Crap I guess I missed something big, I know about the whole Geoff Keighly Doritos and Mountain Dew thing but who is Arthur Gies, what is Polygon, and why do they suck?J


Edit: Oh, I see.

There's other, more damning reasons why Polygon is shit I think. Someone may be able to speak on that.

 

[antitrop]

Deus Ex GIF makes my week.

 

[ItWasMeantToBe19]

I can't wait for 10 pages of Bioshock Infinite's features combined with a variety of adjectives.

 

[TheBaronOfNA]

Are people not picking up on his sarcasm with the usage of 'entitled'? This goes back to some games journalists calling gamers entitled over certain things (ME3 ending, DLC etc.).

Maybe is not actually a good joke?

 

[Derrick01]

Now someone needs to photoshop Gies' face on it.

(But don't worry Arthur it's all in good fun. I'm not actually going to punch you.)

 

[Uno Venova]

Are people not picking up on his sarcasm with the usage of 'entitled'? This goes back to some games journalists calling gamers entitled over certain things (ME3 ending, DLC etc.).

I think it's just a joke towards reviewers who call gamers "entitled" for complaining about anti-consumer tactics or for serious flaws in games.

This.

 

[sleepykyo]

They are right, but I can't help feeling it's because most of them are angry that they didn't get the exclusive.

Seems about right.

 

[Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew]

Arthur Gies talking about integrity. Oh my god.

BOOM! First post.

 

[indigo-cyclops]

I had to tweet that to Geoff. I will probably be blocked for it.

 

[Kinyou]

Why do game journalists feel so entitled to equal review windows??

lol

Next up, always-on reviews; EA will host the reviews on their own site.

They are right, but I can't help feeling it's because most of them are angry that they didn't get the exclusive.

Remember, when it's your exclusive, there's nothing scummy about it, and nothing a publisher does can effect your opinion in any way.

When it's their exclusive, it's the worst thing ever and destroys the integrity of your profession.

That sums it up pretty well. Someone should do some digging and find out if one of these guys was involved with an exclusive review.

 

[RionaaM]

Arthur Gies talking about integrity. Oh my god.

He's just bitter that Polygon didn't get the exclusivity.

 

[Fjordson]

its to milk the bioshock content more.

more pageviews

Was wishfully hoping there'd be something else to it, but I guess that's what it comes down to. I mean there's literally no multiplayer or anything else that would draw out the review process more than other games. Oh well.

 

[Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew]

OH MY GOD!!! :lol

 

[Vire]

Dorito Pope is not amused.

Spoiler

:lol