Crossing Eden
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Apparently the trailer was supposed to be a flashback of new Dante's past. Pretty terrible way to reveal a game.
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Bizarre redesigns of game characters.
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Flame Lord
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Why, I dislike everything about 343's are direction.
The armor designs in Halo 4 and on have gone to shit in general.
Dimitri LH
Member
The Sabrina you posted is from the FRLG: The remakes of the first gen games. The real OG Sabrina looks like this.
On top of that, her in-game sprite depicted her with a whip.
Her sprite original outfit was probably based on his early profile pic as well. Notice the green collar? Her outfit probably wasn't red until after some revisions back when the series was at its super early stages.
Man you can tell that Ken Sugimori was ripping off Dragon Ball really hard back then. Sabrina looked like a DBZ villain.
Sorry bout that, but you get my drift on what I meant, FRLG stayed similar to the OG ones and bettered it imo.
Edit: gah that edit, I though I was crazy remembering her in green!
reelbigtink
Member
Classic Wario.. YES
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Warioware Wario.. Why?
I don't see anything wrong with the new Wario design. It's the same character with different clothes.
chaobreaker
Member
Isabela from Dragon Age: Origins to Dragon Age 2. I prefer the DA2 style more even though it is a little oversexualized, but that makes sense with her character and personality. The redesign just looks far more unique and memorable, and not just another generic NPC from DA:O. Honestly I'm not really a fan of the majority of the character designs in DA:O. The sequel gets bashed a lot, deservedly so, but at least it had a big improvement in character design.
I haven't played the DA games but from what I can understand, in the first game most NPCs were built the same create-a-character template. As a result, a lot of characters looked startlingly different if they reappeared in the sequel.
DiipuSurotu
Banned
Athena Asamiya (King of Fighters)
Always hated the Fusion design.
Ready to hate it even more?
Fusion Suit, Metroid Prime version
Notice how they didn't even remodel the arm cannon, making Samus look hilariously out of proportion. What the hell were they thinking? Samus looks like she's anorexic or something
Oh dear god...I did not know this was a thing until now. Poor Blue Mary
I've seen this image bandied about enough times but was that actually her official design in a game? I've never seen screenshots with this character design. There's a difference between an alternate costume or the fanart of an artist who might actually be involved in a game and the actual character design used in a game.
EDIT: Derp, I guess my question was answered earlier in the thread LOL
Nope, I'm right there with you. I love the new look.
Mass_Pincup
Banned
Isabela from Dragon Age: Origins to Dragon Age 2. I prefer the DA2 style more even though it is a little oversexualized, but that makes sense with her character and personality. The redesign just looks far more unique and memorable, and not just another generic NPC from DA:O. Honestly I'm not really a fan of the majority of the character designs in DA:O. The sequel gets bashed a lot, deservedly so, but at least it had a big improvement in character design.
Wait what? Isabella was in DA:O? I need to replay it now.
They gave him a biker look. It looks bad, Mario and Luigi have stayed the same and look better for it. Wario on the other hand... This is why I really appreciate his alt costume in smash and at least he had his original look in Wario Land shake it.
Crossing Eden
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Why would they do this??Athena Asamiya (King of Fighters)
chaobreaker
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Yeah. I have a theory that she wasnt originally planned to be a psychic trainer until halfway into development of the games. It could explain why her OG sprite depicts her with a whip. Why would a telepath need a whip for? By the time they changed it, they already established that green outfit and official art for her.
I think you know the answer already.
Imperfected
Member
Athena's design actually changes in basically every game. It's a tradition.
It's the best one imo.
DiipuSurotu
Banned
None of her design changes was that drastic though. When SNK became SNK-Playmore they just started exaggerating the "concepts" of the characters like making Athena more moe/loli and putting Ralf and Clark on steroids.
Silent Chief
Member
What? No Celda?
Yep.
chaobreaker
Member
None of her previous redesigns made her look like a cartoonishly porportioned bug-eyed schoolgirl.
While there are certainly some examples where a consensus can be reached, a lot of this thread does as much to highlight personal tastes than anything else. Some of the examples I'd consider lateral moves or actual upgrades while I'm sure others feel differently.
This is basically a strict upgrade
I was never a Birdie fan but turning him into a gross slob (or at least more of one) in SFV certainly strikes me as a downgrade.
I don't know if it counts but... I would say Dragon's Crown. Look :
Left : Unreleased dreamcast version
Right : PS3/Vita version
This is basically a strict upgrade
Birdie.
From this:
To this:
New Birdie looks amazing though, especially in-game.
I was never a Birdie fan but turning him into a gross slob (or at least more of one) in SFV certainly strikes me as a downgrade.
Imperfected
Member
Not her best look, certainly, but the point is more that there were gradual transitions between those designs, it wasn't a straight jump from one to the other. The "schoolgirl" thing and purple hair had both become part of her design gradually.
closer1000
Neo Member
Pandemonium:
Magical Hoppers (Japanese Pandemonium):
Pandemonium 2:
Magical Hoppers (Japanese Pandemonium):
Pandemonium 2:
No, because they never said it was a full redesign in the first place. In fact in Halo expanded universe, even before Halo 4 came out, it showed the original Jackals.
SixMachine
Member
Athena and Kensou's design is a callback to a really old SNK game that they were from (though Athena actually first appeared in Athena on the NES and the KOF version is her reincarnation. Her original goddess design is a boss in SVC Chaos).
chaobreaker
Member
Magical Hoppers (Japanese Pandemonium):
This is now my favorite boxart for a video game ever forever ever.
Athena and Kensou's design is a callback to a really old SNK game that they were from (though Athena actually first appeared in Athena on the NES and the KOF version is her reincarnation. Her original goddess design is a boss in SVC Chaos).
I'm aware of Athena's Physcho Soldier history. I'm just saying its not a good look for modern KOF. Especially since it clashes with everyone else in that game.
i'll say cortana from the halo series, the way the characters got sexualised every game is just ridiculous, her boobs got bigger every game
I really disliked her hair change from Halo 1 -> Halo 2. Granted I was, like, 12 at the time, but Cotana from Halo 1 was my favorite character. Her Halo 2 hair never looked right on her.
Crossing Eden
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5 just looks like a higher poly version of what was seen before. Think they lost the rights to Julia Voth's likeness, because this looks terrible.
followed by this
That's really strange but ok.
WrenchNinja
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Ike from Fire Emblem Path of Radiance to Awakening
Micaiah from Fire Emblem Radiant Dawn to Awakening
Roy from Fire Emblem Fuin no Tsurugi to Awakening
Micaiah from Fire Emblem Radiant Dawn to Awakening
Roy from Fire Emblem Fuin no Tsurugi to Awakening
SchrodingerC
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They Activision treatment I guess we can call it.
This still hurts me. ;_;
I MISS YOU, SPYRO!
Scorpion Soldier
Member
I may be in the minority but I actually like the direction the concept art for the game took in regards to the rest of the franchise. It kinda builds onto the more realistic Mad Max aspects of Jak 3, which I always appreciated.
MagnaderAlpha
Member
Wow, people get me depressed that they don't post the original original designs along with the redesigns.
Original Alucard(CV3)
Original Birdie
Strange as it seems, I kinda get a kick out of seeing FFIV's world interpreted as an 80s fantasy Conan-styled world.
I love Tetsuya Nomura's art, but there was a point, significantly in JPRGs where every artist started to adopt the "contemporary chic" into fantasy worlds, as well as pointless belts. All I know, before the Nomurafication of character designs, you didn't have characters in medieval fantasy worlds with tribal tattoos, regular-looking jackets and hoodies. I mean, everybody from the Lufia II DS remake could be used to show the shift in style:
I mean look at this:
Urgh. Another excellent example is what they did to Adol:
This
to this
He basically went from a "red-headed fantasy JRPG hero of a medieval fantasy land" to Tidus(red-headed Tidus). Now don't get me wrong, bringing in contemporary styles into a non-contemporary setting CAN work, but doing it MOST of the time simply "because", urgh. And look at all those fuckin' belts! It's not even designed by Nomura. Hell, even Nomura knows when to hold back.
Pretty mild example OP.
Alucard.
Alucard in Castlevania Judgement
You could probably post the entire cast of characters of that game in here.
Original Alucard(CV3)
Birdie.
From this:
To this:
New Birdie looks amazing though, especially in-game.
Original Birdie
So I went digging for more pics from the Twilight Zone that spawned Goblin Palom and Porom
Behold, Merchant Rydia and Fabulous-Bare-Thighs-and-Ass Kain
Strange as it seems, I kinda get a kick out of seeing FFIV's world interpreted as an 80s fantasy Conan-styled world.
I love Tetsuya Nomura's art, but there was a point, significantly in JPRGs where every artist started to adopt the "contemporary chic" into fantasy worlds, as well as pointless belts. All I know, before the Nomurafication of character designs, you didn't have characters in medieval fantasy worlds with tribal tattoos, regular-looking jackets and hoodies. I mean, everybody from the Lufia II DS remake could be used to show the shift in style:
I mean look at this:
Urgh. Another excellent example is what they did to Adol:
This
to this
He basically went from a "red-headed fantasy JRPG hero of a medieval fantasy land" to Tidus(red-headed Tidus). Now don't get me wrong, bringing in contemporary styles into a non-contemporary setting CAN work, but doing it MOST of the time simply "because", urgh. And look at all those fuckin' belts! It's not even designed by Nomura. Hell, even Nomura knows when to hold back.
So I went digging for more pics from the Twilight Zone that spawned Goblin Palom and Porom
Behold, Merchant Rydia and Fabulous-Bare-Thighs-and-Ass Kain
I feel like this still looks good, its just not FF though. It looks pretty familliar though, kind of reminds me of heavy metal a little bit.
Cannon Goose
Member
I liked the look of 47 in Absolution. Why did they have to go and make him look 25 years old in the upcoming one?
whiteninja
Member
Namco's Valkyrie character (recently in PxZ)
In that weird namco dating sim game that closed some time ago we get this:
In that weird namco dating sim game that closed some time ago we get this:
Jibbajabbawockky
Member
Isabela from Dragon Age: Origins to Dragon Age 2. I prefer the DA2 style more even though it is a little oversexualized, but that makes sense with her character and personality. The redesign just looks far more unique and memorable, and not just another generic NPC from DA:O. Honestly I'm not really a fan of the majority of the character designs in DA:O. The sequel gets bashed a lot, deservedly so, but at least it had a big improvement in character design.
Well, I really detest DA2 on so many levels but Isabela's redesign is fine. She was a really minor NPC in Origins who had a generic character model, so it made sense to give her a more unique look when she became a full on companion in DA2.
That said, I think the Origins companions and the characters that clearly had some more time spent on their models looked fine in Origins. Whereas most of those characters that made the jump from DAO to DA2 (Alistair, Leliana, or Zevran) looked awful.
Origins characters that showed up again in Inquisition were kind of a mixed bag. Most of them looked fine but most of them didn't really retain too much of the facial features and characteristics from their Origins models beyond superficial similarities. Character modeling in general could be a lot better from BioWare.
Sorceress still has huge boobs (in relation to her body) that are exposed, she has a really short skirt that is show casing her legs prominently, both details are meant to be titilating.
The warrior girl IS BARE FROM MID DRIFT TO KNEES except for some bizarre vine thing that barely covers her vagina, making her armor fucking nonsensical and useless, at least amazon is supposed to have shit defense from her lack of armor.
And it's super weird to sexualize little girls like this, at least the new ones are also designed sexualized but mature.
Fun fact: All non KoF original characters for that game were redesigned to match their looks from their original games of origin, hence Pyshco Soldiers Athena and Kensou.
finowns
Member
Really? Halo 4 armor looks exactly the same but more detailed.
DiipuSurotu
Banned
Speaking of Ratchet.
What's up with this? I never played the Ratchet and Clank games but this particualr game looked like a cheap attempt at making a more dark and edgy entry for the series. Maybe someone who is more knowledgeable about the series can explain how the main character grew in height so drastically. Where is his robot buddy too?
The game was actually pretty good, and the story wasn't edgy or anything. I think Clank got squirreled away so that they could make a game that was more shooting focused, rather than platforming focused. It also allowed for local co-op through the story without the second player needing a clank of their own to match Ratchet's abilities. If I recall the default skin for the second player actually was a large clank-looking robot.
viewtiful_dru
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I don't know if it counts but... I would say Dragon's Crown. Look :
Left : Unreleased dreamcast version
Right : PS3/Vita version
Never saw those unreleased designs, but I like both styles.
BouncyFrag
Member
Aside for the new updated, less busy outfit i see absolutely no difference beyond the technically better resolution model.
I don't really see a problem with the hair...Huge fan of KH but I don't like what they did to Sora imo..
Before (KH3 initial reveal in 2013):
E3 2015 (new outfit and hair)
Not saying he looks terrible but that hair change is bothering me so much.
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