Orochinagis
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I see an improvement in her design maybe people realized she was "naked" after all this time.
The sad thing in Halo 2 remaster cortana is now wearing a bodysuit instead of being "naked"
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Bizarre redesigns of game characters.
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I see an improvement in her design maybe people realized she was "naked" after all this time.
The sad thing in Halo 2 remaster cortana is now wearing a bodysuit instead of being "naked"
Another one really bad IMO
Bastila in KOTOR
Bastila in SWTOR
Uh I only played the beta of SWTOR, but I believe she's a descendant of the KOTOR Bastila, not the exact same woman.
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I'm pretty sure it's an interactive hologram of Bastila herself.
The Crimson Beast
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hahaha wow, this is objectively worse. Is there any story behind this change?
Why, I dislike everything about 343's are direction.
Oddly enough the Master Chief re-design is the only part of 343i's art direction I don't dislike. Cortana got weirdly sexualized, every Covenant race got re-made to be a monster/dinosaur. They took a lot of legitimately interesting and iconic designs and ruined them. Perhaps most telling is how the rocket launcher changed. It also doesn't help that artistically Reach is debatably the peak for Halo art design.
Halo 4/5:
Yeah, I really like her look in Halo 3 and 4. I only have an issue with how she looks like in remastered.
Some of Halo is like that awful Godzilla movie in the 90s and Doom 3 design.
As for Cortana, graphics have played a part in making her look more sexual, lets not kid ourselves, she has always been naked, the advancement to realism was only going to promote her looks and speaking of that, women do have boobs of all sizes, bigger ones should not automatically mean an overly sexualised character. I give props to 343 for giving Cortana a proper figure, hips for one. I don't think her look is crass, it's mild curves, she isn't giving out a sexualised persona with words or movement. The graphics leap is just a shock with her design.
As for Cortana, graphics have played a part in making her look more sexual, lets not kid ourselves, she has always been naked, the advancement to realism was only going to promote her looks and speaking of that, women do have boobs of all sizes, bigger ones should not automatically mean an overly sexualised character. I give props to 343 for giving Cortana a proper figure, hips for one. I don't think her look is crass, it's mild curves, she isn't giving out a sexualised persona with words or movement. The graphics leap is just a shock with her design.
This is pretty baseless speculation, especially when there are much more likely reasons for the Sorceress's design.
First, fertility goddesses generally weren't just associated with large breasts, but large frames in general. This isn't surprising, since fertility in agriculture means eating well. Fertility goddesses also tended to be associated with childbirth and therefore pregnancy.
Second, the article acts like the necromancers are the only ones in Vanillaware games with large breasts, when large breasts can be found on many other female characters who most certainly are not necromancers or references to fertility godesses. So if large breasts are the connection between necromancers and fertility goddesses, why are they found on other characters who aren't necromancers?
Third, there is zero evidence for the connection made between necromancer and fertility goddess beyond "they have large breasts". Sure, there are a lot of obvious mythological references in Dragon's Crown, but those references are obvious and have much more to back them up than "they both have big breasts". Arguing a character who is half-skeletal is a reference to fertility goddesses is going to require a hell of a lot more than "they both have big breasts".
Fourth, the Sorceress's status as a necromancer is one of the less prominent parts of her character, so the idea that it dictated the most obvious part of her character design makes little sense.
Fifth, there are much more obvious mythological inspirations for the Sorceress's design; for example, the old ugly witch who uses magic to appear young and beautiful. In fact, that's exactly what the Sorceress is implied to be depending on how you interpret the skills menu. Or for another example, the common trope of hot witches.
Huge fan of KH but I don't like what they did to Sora imo..
Before (KH3 initial reveal in 2013):
E3 2015 (new outfit and hair)
Not saying he looks terrible but that hair change is bothering me so much.
That hair is really weirding me out.
bengraven
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Xenosaga Eps 1 ---> Eps 2
Thankfully, they struck balance with Eps 3.
Weird because I couldn't get through Xeno1 because of the shitty character designs (I didn't like playing adults who looked like they were 8 years old) and yet I loved the more mature ones of part 2. I would have loved to have played 2 but since I couldn't get through 1...
Another one really bad IMO
Bastila in KOTOR
Bastila in SWTOR
She didn't have a huge part to play. Like Revan, they just put someone in there and gave her Jennifer's Hales voice, whom was already playing her descendant.
Athena Asamiya (King of Fighters)
THIS.
You guys are joking, right? Trolling? Because other than the color, which is just slightly off, the hair looks the exact same and is in fact the only thing that hasn't changed from one model to the next...
SamusPrime
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Just absolutely NO to this corny new Cyberdemon.
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Kamina
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I don't understand why everyone is using that stupid comparison. She has an extremely dumb expression, this is not suited for comparioson at all.
I vastly prefer the definitive desgin:
Look at the top model, then the bottom. Are you honestly telling me you don't see the notable difference int he shape of Sora's hair? The bottom model's hair looks like he's been sleeping on his head; it's squished at the top and sticks out further--or at least more prominently--on the sides.
If there's any confusion, we're talking about the E3 2015 look. The 2013 look is much more in-line with what came before.
Oldest Snake
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No idea. Apparently the new games takes places after Absolution as well, makes no sense. To be honest I did think he looked a bit too meaty in Absolution, but they've gone way too far for this new game.
Then there's this shot from the E3 Gameplay trailer that has him looking much closer to the Absolution model:
Exterminieren
Banned
This isn't necessarily bizarre, because I can see exactly why they did it, but Pikachu's rapid redesign to make him more suitable as the franchise's mascot has always amused me. That Pokémon was very clearly never designed to be the face of the franchise.
Slimmed right down, and had his features and proportions made far cuter. I actually prefer modern Pikachu, but it is a notable change for such an iconic character.
Slimmed right down, and had his features and proportions made far cuter. I actually prefer modern Pikachu, but it is a notable change for such an iconic character.
bengraven
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I see a little bit more length in the spikes coming out on the left and right side...and a shorter bit on top?
I guess I didn't notice it until I examined it further.
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Domstercool
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Vital Tundra
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The first one is FRLG Sabrina. And HGSS aren't an alternate universe. Takes place 3 years after FRLG. So the change is simply from time change.
The artist was doing an official web comic before that game:Namco's Valkyrie character (recently in PxZ)
In that weird namco dating sim game that closed some time ago we get this:
Dice//
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Tia in Lufia 2.
Original:
Remake:
I actualy liked the remake because it made her look less of an innocent JRPG Barbie doll. ;/
All the redesigns too, I'm happy they shed that really, reaaally 90s anime medieval look. x)
Not like the reboot went anywhere though.
then you use a gif with the worst dante ever created.
Diablohead
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Is it a reboot? If not it makes no sense.
Kamina
Golden Boy
Yes, looks more like a living human to me.you prefer that!? lol
The position of her eyes and mouth are completely off on PC and PS360.
Yeah. That gif is the equivalent of Uncharted 3 and Uncharted 2 glitch picture.
Her expression in that scenes is weird regardless of which face Lara has.
Nah, anime Dante is worst Dante.
Reverend Funk
Comfy Penetration
Uncle Dante is the best Dante
Kamina
Golden Boy
Anime Dante is still better than DmC "Punk" Dante.
That's not a real Dante tho.
Kamina
Golden Boy
DmC Dante you mean? Yes, that is Donte, not Dante.
Anime Dante is canon as far as i know.
This one cracks me up. Maaan, did they ruin Spyro's looks. And that while many Skylanders look pretty neat actually.
Not really a fan of how Sonic's progressed in terms of design. I like Sonic 2 sonic the best.
This is actually one of the few things I think the series improved on. I generally like modern Sonics' look, the products he appears in not so much (save for Smash and his racing games).
I didn't gleefully ignore the article. Please stop being an ass.I get the sense you didn't bother to actually read the words in the articles posted.
Fertility goddesses typically had large breasts and large hips - the two things present in the Sorc's design. Here is an actual fertility goddess statue from the article that you gleefully ignored:
If you read my points, I stated that there are other common elements to fertility goddesses that aren't represented by those characters. I also stated that more proof is required beyond "they are voluptuous" when there are other characters in the game who also have big breasts and hips and aren't necromancers.
You lack reading comprehension. I said "There are lots of other characters with big breasts in the game who are not necromancers." Which there are. I can't believe I have to convince you of such an uncontroversial statement.And you act like the large-breasted women are the only ones in the game. This is exactly what I brought up when I said "Also, the small-breasted Archer gets completely ignored in these conversations, because it's not about having a variety of characters, just ragging on the few choices that we don't like." and is the subject of the post I linked by an artist who deals with this exact issue and Dragon's Crown. Again, skip to the conclusion to see a hilarious rebuttal of your tired argument that only small-breasted body types should be allowed.
Here's the Archer, you know that character you ignored in favor of laser focusing on the one body type you dislike:
The assumptions you are making about my motive are asinine and make it difficult for me to want actually debate with you. I am arguing with the article's suggestion that the witch's large breasts are referencing fertility goddesses, and you are the one putting words in my mouth about "body types I dislike".
Uh, that's not how you carry a suckling child. At all. You even posted a picture that shows it's nothing like how you carry a child (Albeit one who is not breast-feeding at the moment).You're joking right? Not only did you not read, but you didn't even look at the pictures?
Here's one of the main promotional images of the character cradling a skeleton like a suckling child. And you're seriously telling me that the connection between the Sorc and necromancy is a stretch? Seriously?
And no, the connection between the Sorceress and necromancy isn't a stretch. The stretch is acting like necromancy is the main element in her character design, and acting like there is a connection between necromancy and fertility goddesses because the necromancer has big boobs in a game with plenty of big boobs.
Read my fucking post next time.
Also, I noticed you make conclusions about the people you are arguing with and try to batter them down with unfounded insults. Try to keep that under control if you want people to take you seriously.
You leave Uncle Dante alone!
Crossing Eden
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If we're gonna be completely honest, DMC3 Dante screams edgy the most. I mean look at this, this isn't cool.
Ofc he has a sword called rebellion. With a huge skull as the hilt.
SoulUnison
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Agree that this is up there with the worst. Complete departure from the original character and a mediocre redesign at that. I'm not sure who was begging for a smug, meth-head version of Dante.
Good thing that's not the final version of the redesign, then!
Final DmC Dante has slightly different clothes/accessories than this, a different face, and all the bruising/jaundice/diseased skin is just regular skin tone.
Why is it every time someone wants to complain about DmC Dante they use the worst looking "in-production" design and try to pass it off as the release version?
You're just straight up lying.
THIS is DmC Dante.
Yeah, I can't play Dragon's Crown because I hate looking at the screen. Character designs like the Barbarian and Witch there make me think of the word "grotesque."
Who is this supposed to appeal to? Horny teenagers with body proportion disorders?
Always hated the Fusion design.
You are not the only one.
I can't even begin to imagine what the hell they were thinking with that.
DiipuSurotu
Banned
OMG the fuck is this shit :-O
Uhhh, you guys know that he doesn't actually look like that in the actual game right?
Same general concept, young less anime version of Dante. He never looked quite right in CGI renders compared to in the actual game.
i think it's the opposite he looks good in that mug shot picture just beaten up but looked way worse in the reveal trailer.
SolVanderlyn
Thanos acquires the fully powered Infinity Gauntlet in The Avengers: Infinity War, but loses when all the superheroes team up together to stop him.
Jak is bizarre between Jak and Daxter and Jak II, but that really applies to his entire second game and onwards. (Love all of Jak, but it was a very bizarre transition)
His Jak II -> Jak 3 design was less weird, but for the worse, IMO. The kilt was cool, though.
His Jak II -> Jak 3 design was less weird, but for the worse, IMO. The kilt was cool, though.
DMC3 Dante is easily the worst Dante design by a country mile
Doctor_Thomas
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I don't hate the imagry then invoke, I just think they are horrendously ugly pieces of art.
Man, I can't believe I actually have someone arguing with the statement
Like how the fuck can someone play Dragon's Crown and not think there are more busty characters than just the Sorceress.
Of course, given that he brought up the Elf, maybe he somehow thought this read "All characters in Vanillaware games have big breasts".
But Jesus fuck the game has some obnoxious fans.
Like how the fuck can someone play Dragon's Crown and not think there are more busty characters than just the Sorceress.
Of course, given that he brought up the Elf, maybe he somehow thought this read "All characters in Vanillaware games have big breasts".
I personally like the game's art style; for me, the exaggeration works for the distinct characters.
But Jesus fuck the game has some obnoxious fans.
Supermanisdead
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Because that was the initial reveal of his redesign. After the backlash, they edited it heavily, but that initial artwork was the actual redesign. It's not some weird agenda. Nobody is saying that was the final design.
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