It still is amazing that people try to argue this. It isn't as if the data is being streamed over the Internet from a distant location or anything. It's local ad hoc from 10-15 feet away, and it's 480P resolution video. The wonders of technology!
My plan is to wait for the next hardware revision before making a purchase.
There's a tab stating their return policy right on the product page. I don't see video games on the list of items that are limited to 90-day return periods.I don't think so, not any more. A lot of electronics are excluded from the policy.
Merchandise: We guarantee your satisfaction on every product we sell with a full refund. The following must be returned within 90 days of purchase for a refund: televisions, projectors, computers, cameras, camcorders, touch screen tablets, MP3 players and cellular phones.
...but it does have Platinum on it, and judging by your avatar I am sure you know that they are bringing Bayo2 to it. as well as Wonderful 101 pretty soon. Not sure I understand your plight.The only thing that would make me buy a Wii U would be if it got more quality 3rd party Japanese games/devs like P* on it. I don't care about Nintendo games anymore. I'm a console free agent for next-gen and none have made a compelling argument yet for me to buy one.
buy a last gen machine for 300 bucks or wait a couple of month and buy a proper next gen machine for 400 or 500 monies?
is there even a question?
buy a last gen machine for 300 bucks or wait a couple of month and buy a proper next gen machine for 400 or 500 monies?
is there even a question?
...but it does have Platinum on it, and judging by your avatar I am sure you know that they are bringing Bayo2 to it. as well as Wonderful 101 pretty soon. Not sure I understand your plight.
heck they just did an Iwata Asks with Platinum.
Yes?
How about: Does it/Will it have games you want?
Hmm.
I really want to buy it. Considering its upcoming releases. And $50 off for the 32 GB ain't bad. But 32 GB is so little. What are the chances of Ninty coming out with a higher GB SKU sometime in the future?
It's hard to say, I guess. Considering this is the first Nintendo console to have a hard-drive.
aaaaarg! I've got my finger on the trigger, GAF! I absolutely need this baby by March 19 for Monster Hunter but I'm worried an even better deal might come along before that time. Costco charges a $15 non-member fee so the deal is not quite as sweet as it first seems. Someone convince me! Fill me with reassurance!
So, are you saying Nintendo was capable of making the system with the current specs and that technology for less money without the system being sold at a loss...
Despite the fact that at $350 it's being sold at a loss?
I don't get it. You imply that it's not a technological marvel, but the system is still being sold at a loss. So, what justifies that price point, then? "It's not next gen! Streaming technology isn't impressive!"
And as others have said, what's with this ridiculous $99 dollars shit? The Wii doesn't even retail for that unless it's black friday. Just say you aren't going to buy one.
What does that have to do with anything other then being hampered by internet speed it would be the same thing.....Its not ad hoc you have no clue what you are talking about that is clear. Its also not technology that is not found in other places but its not cheap which is what everyone here seems to think.
no, i will happily stick with my first statement. I simply do not care about 2005 tech anymore. WiiU does not even have the motion controller thingy, why would anybody care about this kind of system in 2013? sales/prices confirm this statement.
Does Costco's incredible return policy include videogame systems?
I think he's looking for more devs LIKE Platinum, not "We need Platinum on there, first thing." That much has been made pretty obvious by now
So, are you saying Nintendo was capable of making the system with the current specs and that technology for less money without the system being sold at a loss...
Despite the fact that at $350 it's being sold at a loss?
I don't get it. You imply that it's not a technological marvel, but the system is still being sold at a loss. So, what justifies that price point, then? "It's not next gen! Streaming technology isn't impressive!"
And as others have said, what's with this ridiculous $99 dollars shit? The Wii doesn't even retail for that unless it's black friday. Just say you aren't going to buy one.
I don't think so, not any more. A lot of electronics are excluded from the policy.
The bolded text the person that I responded to was responding to was focused on your claim that the streaming was somehow something people should be impressed by, it's not. The reason it hasn't been done is because no one's cared enough to make a device like the Wii U, because they never saw enough demand to warrant it.
As for price, I'd say that it is definitely overpriced for what it is regardless of how expensive it was to manufacture. PS3 cost over $900 to manufacture and ship to stores at launch and people argued that it was overpriced then, why should the same not be applied to the Wii U now?
pretty sure the real answer is that this specific tech also didn't really exist yet too.
and it is impressive for off tv play imho, plus faster response time than a TV
damn that was fast. My wife wants one but there doesn't seem to be a whole lot of reasons to jump in right now.
The bolded text the person that I responded to was responding to was focused on your claim that the streaming was somehow something people should be impressed by, it's not. The reason it hasn't been done is because no one's cared enough to make a device like the Wii U, because they never saw enough demand to warrant it.
As for price, I'd say that it is definitely overpriced for what it is regardless of how expensive it was to manufacture. PS3 cost over $900 to manufacture and ship to stores at launch and people argued that it was overpriced then, why should the same not be applied to the Wii U now?
I think $149 (no games packed in) to $199 (includes 1 or 2 games) for deluxe would be the sweet spot for Wii U IMO. I would consider buying it at that price range. They really need to get this to Wii levels of cheap. It will be a goldmine for them if they can get it down to that cheap.
I think $149 (no games packed in) to $199 (includes 1 or 2 games) for deluxe would be the sweet spot for Wii U IMO. I would consider buying it at that price range. They really need to get this to Wii levels of cheap. It will be a goldmine for them if they can get it down to that cheap.
no, i will happily stick with my first statement. I simply do not care about 2005 tech anymore. WiiU does not even have the motion controller thingy, why would anybody care about this kind of system in 2013? sales/prices confirm this statement.
Input lag, not response time, they are very very different things.
(the screen is LCD so the response time will suck anyhow )
Good luck with that. The controller alone would probably cost nearly that, never mind the rest of the hardware attached to it.
You're not going to the buy the system. It's okay. If you're not enticed by the current games, the games shown in the recent Nintendo Direct, plus the promises for the games we already knew were coming, plus the potential of indie dev contributions on the eShop, plus the Wii U VC which will enhance the VC experience with the Wii U's unique features (Gamepad, Miiverse), and other developments such as GBA VC support, then no one's going to cut your head off.
So does that mean Costco will not be ordering that many Wiiu's in the future?
How are we supposed to judge how impressive the technology is without any actual testing? Just take Nintendo and their partner's word for it? Because if that's the barrier then there are a hell of a lot of amazing technologies developed every single minute of every single day.You didn't answer my question at all. Regardless of if you're personally impressed by the technology that the WiiU possesses, it's doing impressive things under the hood that people disregard in favor of convenient (but ultimately irrelevant) arguments.
Nintendo operates differently than Sony and can't afford to do things like make 900 dollar video game systems and sell them at a loss until the market somehow catches up. People don't seem to understand that Nintendo can't really compete with Sony and Microsoft on the same financial level.
I personally think that the system shipped at $50 dollars too high, but I also know that the streaming tech and the gamepad itself are pretty expensive. If you're not interested in playing a game with a touchpad controller, that's absolutely fine. If you're not interested in the streaming, that's great too. But this stupid drivel about the streaming not being technically impressive or the WiiU not being "next gen" just needs to stop. It's ignorant and doesn't foster any kind of actual discussion.
As to the bolded, [CITATION NEEDED]
Oh I am definitely returning my Wii U this weekend then. I love the thing, and have barely turned it off since I got it, but if the price is collapsing, I will rebuy it after the price stabilizes at whatever number. If I can save 80 bucks, like with 3DS, I'll be thrilled.
Nintendo were foolish to launch without the one game that sold 30 million Wii's by itself. Wii Sports. They thought Nintendoland was a showpiece. It's fun, but it doesn't "look" like fun. People impulse buy stuff that looks like fun to them. Watching someone play Wii bowling or tennis was the best advertisement the Wii could have ever gotten. WiiU doesn't have anything like that. Watching someone use the Gamepad doesn't "look" fun. It looks like a tablet.
no, i will happily stick with my first statement. I simply do not care about 2005 tech anymore. WiiU does not even have the motion controller thingy, why would anybody care about this kind of system in 2013? sales/prices confirm this statement.