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Braid (XBLA/PC/PSN/Mac) |OT|
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sionyboy said:
+1 Thanks for recommending the walkthrough on GT.
http://www.gametrailers.com/player/usermovies/121382.html
I didn't get the gist of how complex some of the time-travel dynamics could be from some of the youtube videos.
Kilrogg said:I want to like it, but I can't. The artstyle, I mean. You'd think it's because I'm a bitter Wii-only owner, but it's not even that, because the game is coming out on PC too!
The developers tried, but it's again one of those games that, trying to be crisp and neat and detailed and stuff, ultimately looks too clean and flash-like. There are good-looking flash games, mind you, but when I say that, I mean cold, lifeless, and as if the characters and the backgrounds are in separate dimensions. I think it's too detailed for its own good.
Oh, and the characters are hideous.
[EDIT] Actually, it reminds me of that HL² platformer mod in which you're a schizophrenic who can switch between a happy world (kinda Braid-looking) and a horror world. Thing is: the game was a mod, and it showed. And your character's controls were floaty. I get the same feel about Braid, sadly.
That's the point (referring to bold above). Read this and this.
True art cannot possibly be appreciated by everyone.
I respect some of the ethos behind braid, but ultimately I find the whole thing to be pretty grotesque to look at. I hope that other artists follow their lead however and try to do fully painted levels.
Unfortunately, also, I feel some people here are buying into some sort of weird hyperbole as well, choosing to belittle the opinions of others with their 'emporer's new clothes' line of thinking. "True art" indeed. What horse shit.
Unfortunately, also, I feel some people here are buying into some sort of weird hyperbole as well, choosing to belittle the opinions of others with their 'emporer's new clothes' line of thinking. "True art" indeed. What horse shit.
soldat7 said:
I'm not feeling like reading an entire interview right now. Which passage should I read? Do you mean the character is supposed to look like he's added on top of the background?
As for your comment regarding true art: whatever. I'm all for aesthetics, but for me, "true art", as far as games are concerned, lies in the game itself, not its visuals.
Kilrogg said:
Is your character really there? Where is 'there'? I think these are a few of the big questions behind the game. Considering that multiple copies of you can exist at various points of time within the game, I think that these are very good questions.
The 'true art' comment was meant to be nothing more than brash snobbery, thus the
.Oh, and 'existential gravitas'.
This looks so great.
I think I'm most excited about PSN and Live Arcade downloadable games this year, now that they've discovered not everything needs to be a twin stick shooter.
Braid, PixelJunk Eden, flower, The Last Guy, Castle Crashers, etc.
Downloadables are where the real groundbreaking shit is happening.
I think I'm most excited about PSN and Live Arcade downloadable games this year, now that they've discovered not everything needs to be a twin stick shooter.
Braid, PixelJunk Eden, flower, The Last Guy, Castle Crashers, etc.
Downloadables are where the real groundbreaking shit is happening.
BenjaminBirdie
Banned
Kilrogg said:
Personally, I don't think the "art" aspect has anything to do with the visuals, which were farmed out to a (fantastic) visual artist. It's about the intent. About crafting a game experience with a little ambition behind you.
Randy Lanzarote
Member
BKXB said:
Yeah I was watching some of the youtube videos earlier in the evening but without the developer walkthrough I was thinking;
-"This youtube video is messed up, looks like someone is rewinding a vhs"
and then
-"Actually, I have no idea what is going on"
It all made sense when someone explained what he was doing on-screen! :lol
what the hell are you even talking about?Kilrogg said:I want to like it, but I can't
The developers tried, but it's again one of those games that, trying to be crisp and neat and detailed and stuff, ultimately looks too clean and flash-like. There are good-looking flash games, mind you, but when I say that, I mean cold, lifeless, and as if the characters and the backgrounds are in separate dimensions. I think it's too detailed for its own good.
Oh, and the characters are hideous.
[EDIT] Actually, it reminds me of that HL² platformer mod in which you're a schizophrenic who can switch between a happy world (kinda Braid-looking) and a horror world. Thing is: the game was a mod, and it showed. And your character's controls were floaty. I get the same feel about Braid, sadly.
clean and flash-like? cold, lifeless? feels like a mod? are you high?
Psychotext
Member
You've all probably seen it already, but this just got a 9 from Edge.
jarosh said:
Yes I am.
It's just that something in the artstyle feels off. I'm usually a sucker for colourful, imaginative worlds (see Yoshi's Island for instance), but, I don't know, what I see when I look at Braid (well, the screenshots, granted) doesn't look beautiful to me, let alone the fact that I hate the character design.
Admittedly, I went a bit too far on the flash-like thing, but that's because I have a hard time expressing my exact feelings about the visuals of this game. But it's true it reminded me of said HL² mod, even though Braid is a lot more detailed and polished.
Now, the gameplay itself? I don't know, haven't played it.
Let's just say I'm picky, all right?
@soldat7: I see, thank you. No offense taken, then
.gregor7777
Banned
Psychotext said:
I have this feeling we're going to hear a lot about this game come year's end and the GOTY lists are compiled.
Zero_Phoenix
Banned
It seemed to me that the game looks much better in motion than in screenshots because the backgrounds are animated in the game.
BenjaminBirdie
Banned
Psychotext said:
Thanks to TheGreatDave:
backflip10019
Member
Yikes, Kotaku is reporting that the price in Japan is 1200 MS points. And prices for XBLA titles in Japan usually follow suit in the States.
BenjaminBirdie
Banned
backflip10019 said:Yikes, Kotaku is reporting that the price in Japan is 1200 MS points. And prices for XBLA titles in Japan usually follow suit in the States.
Uh oh:
backflip10019 said:Yikes, Kotaku is reporting that the price in Japan is 1200 MS points. And prices for XBLA titles in Japan usually follow suit in the States.
I hope not
After watching a two trailers, I'm a bit more convinced.
I'm still not sold on the artstyle. However, the time/copy mechanic looks like it's been cleverly put to use by the developers. The way the character seems to control is okay I guess, although his bouncing off the walls when he jumps against them worries me just a little bit. I dont' like it when walls feel like they're bumpy.
I'm still not sold on the artstyle. However, the time/copy mechanic looks like it's been cleverly put to use by the developers. The way the character seems to control is okay I guess, although his bouncing off the walls when he jumps against them worries me just a little bit. I dont' like it when walls feel like they're bumpy
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how can you make a claim like that? how is $15 for braid a worse deal than $15 for quest for booty? what makes quest for booty the better experience? did you play it? how do you know how long it is? how do you know quest for booty has more gameplay depth and is longer than braid? and in how many more threads are you gonna post the same thing?Proelite said:
AndresON777
shooting blanks
jarosh said:
Quest for booty may have great graphics but it's less than 3-4 hours....still overpriced.
http://www.us.playstation.com/PS3/Games/Ratchet_and_Clank_Future_Quest_for_Booty
Always-honest
Banned
Character looks out of place... but i like the general style.
RandomVince said:
dejay said:
Let's see...
* Flink?
* Traps 'n' Treasures?
* Magic Pockets?
* Ruff 'n' Tumble?
* Rick Dangerous 1 or 2?
Psychotext
Member
I loved that game.Superfrog said:
Doogington
Member
I'm guessing the length of this game really depends on how well you know the puzzles, almost like how fast you can be a Metroid game if you know it really well. Seems like the kind of game you'll see speedruns for with really fast times. That's not to say it doesn't look any less brilliant.