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Breaking Bad - Season 5 interim thread - the series concludes Summer 2013 on AMC
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Nameless
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I had forgotten about the Scarface scene from S5. "Everyone dies in this movie." Coincidence that the entire White family is present?
The stuff with Gus' past actually got me thinking of a Training Day or Scarface style ending for Breaking Bad where the 'lovable' villain
There was a reason the Mexican fucking Cartel were afraid to kill Gus. He had to be connected to some bonafide Chilean killers incapable of giving a shred of fuck and Walt blew him up in a nursing home. Just sayin. Hell, at the end of last season when Hank was on the shitter I was waiting for the machine gun fire to erupt in the backyard.
The stuff with Gus' past actually got me thinking of a Training Day or Scarface style ending for Breaking Bad where the 'lovable' villain
is just about to succeed and reign supreme as the baddest of bad guys when some other previously wronged force, more vicious, more ruthless, swoops in and desyroys them.
There was a reason the Mexican fucking Cartel were afraid to kill Gus. He had to be connected to some bonafide Chilean killers incapable of giving a shred of fuck and Walt blew him up in a nursing home. Just sayin. Hell, at the end of last season when Hank was on the shitter I was waiting for the machine gun fire to erupt in the backyard.
metalslimer
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Outside of a few sequences (magnets) BB has been pretty believable in a tv show way.
Spieler Eins
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In one of the very first episodes, Walter blows up a car by putting some sponge on the engine or some shit.
Pretty much tells you how ,,believable'' this show ever wanted to be, lol
Pretty much tells you how ,,believable'' this show ever wanted to be, lol
Admiral Bone to Pick
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I've always speculated that Gus was related to some kind of high-ranking Chilean government official (possibly a general), and that Don Eladio avoided killing him so he wouldn't incur the wrath of the Chilean government. But the show has been pretty good about not revealing too much of Gus' past, so I doubt they'd have Walt be killed by someone related to Gus.
metalslimer
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Haha true. Speaking of which when is that mythbusters episode airing?
Bobby Roberts
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I subscribe to the idea that the freshest hell is the one you have to live through, and not the one in a possible afterlife. It's always more devastating to watch a character look around at the total desolation of their life and know they're pretty much STUCK with it, than to watch them get shot or hit with a car or whatever.
I honestly believe the worst case for Walt would absolutely be living/winning, only to have absolutely nothing to show for it, and no one to share it with, and no means to escape himself.
I honestly believe the worst case for Walt would absolutely be living/winning, only to have absolutely nothing to show for it, and no one to share it with, and no means to escape himself.
It wasn't a sponge, it was a squeegee:
He shorted the battery with the metal part, shorted or failing batteries can cause a mess
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_TnsHu2u4c
It already aired in some places (Australia) i already watched it ;-) . It will air the 11 of this month in USA
I'm about 90% sure that the podcast about that episode revealed Cranston ad-libbed that line. If that's the case, I wouldn't give it too much weight as some kind of conscious foreshadowing.
this is hilarious
Sorry, she's just a shit character played by a mediocre actress. Call it misogyny if it helps you sleep at night, but it's not
On the flip side, I love every female character in Mad Men. Even Betty who is even more annoying/bitchier than Skyler
I always kind of geek out whenever I see an actor from Breaking Bad in an older movie.
RatskyWatsky
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My god, we're only a week away!! omgomg
ThanksVision
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Fifty-One is one of the freakiest episodes ever. I hate watching Walt chase Skyler around the room telling her that she'll never win. It's horrifying. Walt's a fucking monster.
And Anna Gunn is a fine actress.
And Anna Gunn is a fine actress.
I'm rewatching the series with my mom and sister (who are watching it for the first time). I wish I could experience BB for the first time again.We're halfway through season 2 and they are totally team-Walt. Even feeling sorry for him at times.
It will be glorious when they see him progressively become the fucking terror that he is in Season 5. What a fucking menace.
It will be glorious when they see him progressively become the fucking terror that he is in Season 5. What a fucking menace.
Discotheque
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lol my sister was team-jesse and team skyler from the beginning. and once skyler's scenes got really annoying to sit through just team-jesse.
walt really is a prick from the beginning. he's so fun to watch though. but yeah i don't feel as if there's anything redeemable about him.
those hilariously drawn comics are quite accurate too.
walt really is a prick from the beginning. he's so fun to watch though. but yeah i don't feel as if there's anything redeemable about him.
those hilariously drawn comics are quite accurate too.
Team Jesse/Team Mike (;_. Any other team is wrong.
TEAM JESSE BITCH.
One week i don't think im ready
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i feel the same, i just don't want them to kill off jesse.
Discotheque
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nah. Walt has to lose for me.
Tony Soprano was an asshole who had done terrible things as well but there were still many great scenes in the final season. Quite a few that brought about sympathy for him.
Walt became cartoonishly evil in season 5. It was like a "fuck the world" switch just came on right at the end of season 4. It's a fun season for sure but it's like the writers want us to all hate him now, no questions asked.
Tony Soprano was an asshole who had done terrible things as well but there were still many great scenes in the final season. Quite a few that brought about sympathy for him.
Walt became cartoonishly evil in season 5. It was like a "fuck the world" switch just came on right at the end of season 4. It's a fun season for sure but it's like the writers want us to all hate him now, no questions asked.
Team Jesse/Team Mike (;_
Team Walt/Team Skysky (?)
Bobby Roberts
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Then you're obviously not the people I'm talking about. But your not being "that guy" doesn't mean "those guys" don't make up the majority of the people holding that opinion. It just means you're one of the discerning exceptions. which is cool.
But I don't understand why you'd want to argue for removing that wall between you and "those guys", thus possibly getting your take confused with theirs. If anything I'd think you'd want to acknowledge that a ton of Skyler "haters" are just being pissy little boys about it, but your reason for hating her has more to do with the portrayal of her character and the skill of the actress.
But endeavoring to argue against the reality that large swaths of Skyler "haters" are completely misogynistic about it doesn't make any sense.
"VENTUURRAAAAA...."
"Yes Satan? Oh, I'm sorry, I thought you were someone else."
Rastafarian42
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Marathoned the first half of Season 5 on Netflix last night can't wait for next Sunday.
Seriously. Walt has been a childish asshole from the very beginning. I have to laugh at people who root for him with no sense of irony.
-Pyromaniac-
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I hope walt fucks everyone up gooooood before he dies!
Discotheque
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haha childish for sure. and don't get me started on that heisenberg outfit. is it supposed to be comedic when he wears that?
because the dude clearly thinks it's badass but it's a goofy ass hat and glasses. it feels like social commentary on nerds who think fedoras make everything look cool.
Bobby Roberts
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I still think Mike's progression from quiet muscle to one of the most three-dimensional characters on the show is one of the most impressive things Gilligan's done with this show.
Discotheque
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yeah he started off as a generic cowboy cop but they gave him some depth after the shooting and el paso
edit: oh my bad, i read that as hank. mike is pretty great too. sympathized with him so much. he had to practice every ounce of restraint he had in him not to shoot walt in the head whenever the moron spoke. shame about his money not making it to his granddaughter
edit: oh my bad, i read that as hank. mike is pretty great too. sympathized with him so much. he had to practice every ounce of restraint he had in him not to shoot walt in the head whenever the moron spoke. shame about his money not making it to his granddaughter
-Pyromaniac-
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Don't forget Hank. He started off pretty one dimensional and now look at him.
In crime drama it's somehow supposed to indicate a transformation to an immoral or powerful person.
In the simpsons prohibition episode Homer gets a new hat
"Look at me Rex Banner, I have a new hat!"
Bobby Roberts
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Hank's another great example. I think I just like Mike's character a little bit more.
Hank was great because he was pretty quickly shown to have a really good mind for his job, but watching him go through the PTSD was what really opened him up as a character.
Hank was great because he was pretty quickly shown to have a really good mind for his job, but watching him go through the PTSD was what really opened him up as a character.
Thebrokenleg
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That montage is great, especially the song that is played during it.
I was honestly just about to mention his Heisenberg get up. He looks especially stupid walking into the cafe to meet Lydia in the latest season. I definitely think it's done tongue and cheek though. The fedora and oversized sunglasses are exactly what an underachieving chemistry nerd would think looks badass, but to normal people he just looks fucking dopey. It's funny how the look has become iconic to fans of the show, again with no sense of irony. Just goes to show most people take media at face value and completely ignore the subtext.
Meh, as someone already said the plant is actually pretty common in that region/ for backyards.
I had a bigger issue with Season 5's (Part 1's) ending, and how they handled the Hazard Pay plot.
That is definitely my biggest gripe with S5, his character loses that liminal quality that made S4 the absolute best. I'm not sure you could really do it any differently, though. At some point he has to turn the corner completely.
I wasn't Jesse until Jane's death. After that... I'm rewatching now, when he's telling Walt that he has nothing left ever since he met the great Heisenberg in the hospital bed, its gut-wrenching.
Walt's my favourite character - so incredibly fascinating to watch - but my favourite person? Jesse.
Or Saul.
Or Skinny Pete.
Walt's my favourite character - so incredibly fascinating to watch - but my favourite person? Jesse.
Or Saul.
Or Skinny Pete.
I'm just saying, I think blaming it on misogyny is just a cop out. I just feel her character has been handled poorly which is why she's not liked.
I could be wrong though. I've avoided BB discussions for the most part because I haven't been fully caught up since S5 just went up on Netflix.
Disagree with Walt suddenly turning into a cartoon bad guy as well, it's natural. His pride and ego is so fucking gargantuan, he takes out the kingpin of the entire region, can you even imagine the size said pride and ego is going to grow to? The most unrealistic thing in the entire show is Tuco and the exploding building meth shit in season 1; badass as it was, a bomb goes off and blows out all the buildings and Walt's still standing, right next to it? That's cartoon nonsense.
Bobby Roberts
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Blaming what on misogyny? Misogynist responses to Skyler? That's not a cop-out. That's just basic perception
I've never said the only reason people dislike Skyler is because they're misogynists. I'm saying a large contingent of people who dislike Skyler use misogynist reasoning to do so.
Yeah, on rewatch, it's definitely one of those things that only happened because they hadn't COMPLETELY dialed in what the show's tone was going to be by then. In season 1, I was like "That was pretty fucking badass." rewatching it a few laters later, I was like "This is kinda ridiculous."
I think the magnet and the train hijacking are examples of how that level of ridiculousness is more organically mixed into the tone of the show.
Yeah, I feel they built up Walt's descent into depravity pretty methodically, that I didn't feel he was too over the top in Season 5. Although I think there is argument to be made, about how over the top some of the situations were (the huge Magnet at the Police Station. The train robbery). It feels like the writers were trying really hard to take Walt to extreme levels before his downfall. Personally, I wish they would have kept the situations more grounded. But then again, this isn't the first time they have done something over the top (see the earlier seasons).
The kid being killed and Walt being okay with it was all they really needed (and that could have been done with another situation). That to me, was Walt's lowest moment (besides killing Mike. Although I think the botched Mike's death).
Nameless
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This makes a lot of sense, actually. My only thing is they repeatedly highlighted Gus' mysterious past and alluded to their being consequences for killing him for a reason. That they remain so silent on the subject leads me to believe it could impact the home stretch. Killing Gus was a really big deal. Surely it angered more people than Mike.
Ahhh. I see. Still, Tony Montana, Jesse James, Ozymandias Well placed red herrings maybe(hopefully), but it's all pointing to the inevitable for Walt, at least.
Your mom and sister are great people. I hope you'll still love them after they refuse to abandon Team Walt.
The Lamonster
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lol you just didn't understand what was happening.
Steelyuhas
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