Who do you think is making all those mocksup?! It's the power users who want the metro UI for the desktop; it's the power users who install rainmeter for the metro themes. Microsoft is scaring off the power users more by leaving the desktop in stasis than by any rumors they'll give it a designer makeover.
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Building Windows 8: An inside look from the Windows engineering team
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Zombie James
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Links, please.
Who do you think is complaining about the Metro UI? It's the power users too. The casual user doesn't give a shit , or has no clue that Windows 8 even exists until it's on the laptop they pick up from Best Buy. It's obviously split. I for one actually love the Metro UI, but that doesn't mean it doesn't piss off other power users. By changing everything all at once they risk alienating those people completely.
Even simple things like changing color scheme, removing glass look, removing gradients (using only solid colors), cavity effect and rounded corners on everything would greatly help. No need to overhaul the whole look, because I understand that it may break the legacy applications, but Microsoft has to push the desktop look into Metro territory to make it less jarring when Metro elements appear on desktop.
I used Omnimo UI for Rainmeter. I was hyped for Windows 8 when I thought Microsoft was going to remake the desktop apps with Metro UI. I've given up hope now.
Who exactly is complaining about those screenshots or every other metro themed desktop apps that shows up on blogs every once in a while? I've seen complaints about the start screen, and a little minority view complaining of the Visual Studio redesign, but every other mockup or leak has been all love.
You can already do this on Windows 7. Right-click the Desktop, Personalize, Window Color (at the bottom), and disable transparency.
You can do all that and and choose black, with full color intensity, and you're close. Use the color mixer, you're even closer.
On Windows 8, all the rounded corners are removed too, not sure about the gradients though.
brotkasten
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I don't know why, but those mockups remind me of ubuntu.
You can do all you want with the theme. You can even use custom themes, like what I'm using now. However, the biggest problem, which has been said quite a few times, is that, stock, you have metro clashing with aero on the desktop, outside of the winRT/metro environment. It's really inconsistent and haphazard, making it look like an unprofessional union of the two drastically different styles. If MS could do a simple skin of the aero sprites to take into consideration that it will have to interact with metro it could look so much better.
Yeah same. I think it's the color scheme.
I never said anyone was complaining about the screenshots. They're mockups, what is there to complain about? I'm talking about if Microsoft actually changed their desktop to be like those screenshots, as the default. You would see complaints, it's crazy to think you wouldn't.
My god that had me in stitches.
Also that concept looks great, but it's too bad it'll never look like that.
Too much screen real estate being used by icons that are still easily recognizable when smaller.
ThatObviousUser
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My issue with the taskbar wasn't that it was big, the large icons do look nice and serve a useful utility. But screw that combine-always behavior. Clicking twice (or hovering for a full second, then clicking) to get to a program that has two windows running? Screw that noise.
Aftet i tweaked the registry to 500 ms for the hover trigger that complaint went away for me.
Reminds me of the Zune application. You know, Microsoft's Metro v1.0 design
That looks so good... apps we've seen for Windows 8 so far don't come close.
The delay was too long yeah. I went into the registry and made it to be near instantaneous and it became much better.
Complex Shadow
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i love zune. i really think more people should use it.
I heard a rumor that Microsoft were going to kill off the zune brand in Win8. It would be a shame if the music player didn't resurface under a new name.
I'm on OSX now, but back when I used Windows, the Zune player was such a nice experience. So much slicker than iTunes.
I've been using '7 taskbar tweaker' since the W7 RC or so, which allows a single click to open a window (clicking again opens the next window), and retains the hover for selecting windows specifically. It should be like that stock.
bigtroyjon
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That's not a rumor, that's something that Microsoft has said themselves.
Unrelated article from the Seattle Times microsoft reporter asking if businesses will move to W8
Maybe I'm just too old for computers.
Small icons hurt my eyes.
After all, the eyes can only pull/adjust for so long like rubber bands.
ThatObviousUser
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That's what she said.
Is that tuesday in american days? Man if they pull some arm W8 phones it will he awesome.
Wednesday 9ET
-Pyromaniac-
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No webcast....boourns.
Steelyuhas
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Nice, 6AM PT means I won't have to wait to DL. Once I get back from campus Wednesday afternoon, I'll be able to DL.
Complex Shadow
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awesome. i guess i am gonna have to wake up early that day.
awesome
Chiaroscuro
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Oh, well... It would be 10 AM here, so I will be at work.
show me your skeleton
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2pm here, just as uni finishes. excellenttt.
Vanillalite
Ask me about the GAF Notebook
I am hyped! Been running the dev preview since day 1 of it's public release, and I can't wait to install the consumer preview!!
I would partition out your drive and split it between W8 and W7 (if you don't have another to put it on.) There are still some things that don't work in W8 yet, and there is no reason for you to be stuck with all the time in that case.
I'm certainly going to be doing that. I had the W7 beta 1 in a vm and the W8 dev preview in vm. Now I'm dual booting W8 just like I did for the next W7 beta.
What's not working?
Anton Sugar
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Ordered my Samsung slate, should be here today. Gonna wipe and install W8 on it tomorrow.
They will probably end the show by unveiling the number of beta downloads.
brotkasten
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That would be really smart. I can't see Microsoft doing that.
Jzero
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That would suck if they put a limit, i want it tomorrow !
Anton Sugar
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I hope so. It's new thready worthy, and would be nice to have an OP with details on the CP (apps, games, install, etc.).
yeah most likely
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