nailbombxx
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Perhaps in such circumstances with games like Soul Sacrifice they would want to compete with them on a visual level, unless Capcoms gonna Capcom and expect it to sell for just being a Monster Hunter game.
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Capcom: "We've got no plans for PS Vita Monster Hunter at the moment"
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Perhaps in such circumstances with games like Soul Sacrifice they would want to compete with them on a visual level, unless Capcoms gonna Capcom and expect it to sell for just being a Monster Hunter game.
Alexios
Cores, shaders and BIOS oh my!
They already compete with them and win, nothing stops people from buying Vita + Soul Sacrifice (or any other MonHun clone) instead of 3DS + MonHun. But people don't.
Besides, the HD versions of previous MonHuns show the artistic direction is enough for them to look great just with a little cleaned up image quality, sharper shadows, etc, nothing of significant effort.
But you're right, they could choose to go all out. But they also could choose not to. So it's a choice, not something they'd be forced to do as you imply, with that being the reason it's not on that platform at all.
Infernal Monkey
Member
"Sorry, we've got no plans for a PSVita Monster Hunter at the moment"
Capcom's Vita support has been woeful so far, I don't think it'll ever get any better.
Capcom's Vita support has been woeful so far, I don't think it'll ever get any better.
jeremy1456
Junior Member
Popular franchises in Japan have never needed to compete with modern games for tech.
Look at Dragon Quest, Pokemon, and NSMB.
People are getting absolutely crazy here.
Unknown One
Member
Most likely the case. Oh well I'm ready to purchase SS in 4 days! It's fun times ahead.
Okay.
MightyKAC
Member
Capcom has ALWAYS been in bed with Nntendo. And no matter how much money they make with Sony or anyone else they will always seem to prefer Nintendo no matter how well their brand is doing.
InsaneZero
Member
There's a rather simple reason why MH did not go to Vita.
They had the choice of going with Nintendo and the 3DS, a platform with guaranteed system sellers and have the opportunity to expose MH to new audiences. Or they could go with Sony and the Vita, a successor to a platform where Monster Hunter was the sole mega-franchise, and sell to an audience that they already had.
It's a rather easy choice.
They had the choice of going with Nintendo and the 3DS, a platform with guaranteed system sellers and have the opportunity to expose MH to new audiences. Or they could go with Sony and the Vita, a successor to a platform where Monster Hunter was the sole mega-franchise, and sell to an audience that they already had.
It's a rather easy choice.
People still think vita has an advantage...
Nope but based on VITA user base, first MH on VITA would likely to sell less than 1 mil and with the assumption of 3 mil on 3DS, it's over 2 mil difference which would contradict your statement of Look at games that have releases on hugely popular platforms and also on Vita and its not like you'll see an insane difference like Muramasa and P4G.
In addition, there are people on GAF considering MH3G not selling "great numbers" despite it outperformed Capcom's expectation by 25%. The interpretation of "great numbers" varies.
...they're a business.
Yes, a business that once moved Resident Evil to the second worst selling platform of the generation.
jeremy1456
Junior Member
If you disagree then please tell me why Capcom didn't bother to put a console version of MHP3 on Wii rather than PS3?
I would love to hear it.
jeremy1456
Junior Member
You act like there were more than three consoles.
I guess it was bad business to release anything on PS3 because it was the second worst selling console, huh?
Sammy Samusu
Member
Takao thinks Capcom hates Sony, let's not go there.
guys it's been over 5 years since MonHun primarily became a nintendo system franchise.
get over it already.
you know what system you need to buy if you want to enjoy this property.
it's ok. breathe.
ps4 is still going to be an amazing console to own. psvita is still worth owning, despite its haters.
the world will continue to spin ever so slowly just like it always has, and our pockets will continue to be gauged by rising oil prices.
why don't we all stop being such raging console warriors and grow up a little eh?
get over it already.
you know what system you need to buy if you want to enjoy this property.
it's ok. breathe.
ps4 is still going to be an amazing console to own. psvita is still worth owning, despite its haters.
the world will continue to spin ever so slowly just like it always has, and our pockets will continue to be gauged by rising oil prices.
why don't we all stop being such raging console warriors and grow up a little eh?
For the Wii U port. Otherwise I dunno why Capcom would release it in the west on Wii U over PS360
Because Wii was dead for third party support in 2011, and it's been rumored that Sony was the reason MHP3rd HD exists?
I was referring to the Gamecube, and counting the Dreamcast in that generation. The PS2 is the best selling video game platform of all time and had no mainline Resident Evil developed for it. It just got ports from Dreamcast and Gamecube with spinoffs no one remembers anymore.
shinra-bansho
Member
Anyone still expecting Monster Hunter Vita at this stage is deluded.
I thought that was more Mikami. And it was more to do with difficulty to develop for the PS2.
jeremy1456
Junior Member
Wouldn't a third party software drought be the best time to, you know, release a game? Also, fan base was already on Wii.
The second part is a rumor that I never heard before. Probably originated here just like DQ9 on PSP and MH4 Vita.
...you do remember the fact that the N64 got 3 games from Capcom, 2 of them being ports, and one of them being Tetris, right?
And I'm sure you remember the reason why Resident Evil 4 went to Nintendo.
And even then, they talked with Microsoft first.
jeremy1456
Junior Member
Oh you're talking worldwide sales.
I thought this was strictly Japanese sales discussion, because as you should know, it's the main fan base.
It was more because Mikami hated Sony at the time.
A Black Falcon
Member
The Tetris game was an arcade port, and was also released on Playstation. So yeah, that wasn't exclusive either. And of the other two, one (RE2) was outsourced to an American team... only Mega Man 64 was actually internal. Well, that and RE0, which of course started out on N64 before getting moved over to the GC during development.
So yeah, it's not inevitable that this will happen just because Capcom had great support for the company's previous platform...
shinra-bansho
Member
I must say though, I do enjoy this highly rational "CAPCOM is a business" talk; while concurrently we regularly get proclamations of things like "third parties hate Nintendo" "they're trying to sabotage the Wii U" and that whole EA is being spiteful thing being held as gospel etc. etc. etc.
IceDoesntHelp
Banned
Alright so what next?
MH4 on Wii U?
MH4 on Wii U?
jeremy1456
Junior Member
I wouldn't be surprised.
A quick upressed port released months after the 3DS game wouldn't be hard and Capcom has shown they like to have cross play.
Anybody who uses the "business decision" reasoning is bound to be a hypocrite at some point.
MHP3rd was shown running on it. Not sure if it was the HD version ported to Vita or if it was just the PSP version with dual analog support.
Maybe not money, but I'm sure Capcom was thrilled when Nintendo lent a hand with the advertising for Tri outside of Japan, and I'm sure that they're even more thrilled that Nintendo makes it a point to feature MH3U as a part of their existing line-up (as evidenced by the callout in the last Nintendo Direct, as well as a feature spot on the eShop), in addition to hosting all of their servers for online play now. It's as good as a moneyhat without it being a moneyhat.
Chance Hale
Member
It was just the straight up PSP version.
Mikami is a game director. He could bitch, and moan about how hard a platform is to develop for but it's up to his superior's to decide that. They could've easily told him to deal with it.
Err, I was talking about Resident Evil. I never knew that franchise's main fanbase was in Japan ...
The reason I brought up Resident Evil in the first place is because of the whole "Capcom is a business, they don't do charity" sentiment in this thread. The Gamecube having more mainline entries in Resident Evil than the PS2 makes it quite clear that this company doesn't always act like a business as long as someone pays them.
There's droughts, and then there's the Wii software lineup in 2011 from third parties. They abandoned the platform. Hardware sales in Japan were drying up quickly, and PS3 made sense as a platform.
As for the comment in regards to Sony, Monster Hunter Portable 3rd HD was the first in the line of the PSP Remasters program. That was started by Sony as a way for publishers to easily port content from PSP to PS3 using tools developed by ... Sony. Based on the way MHP3rd HD turned out it's seems to be a fairly automatic process. I'd be surprised if Sony had nothing to do with MHP3rd HD existing.
Refer to the earlier part of my post on why I brought up Resident Evil.
shinra-bansho
Member
If one simply takes the relatively cynical wholesale position that money makes the world go round, or at least the world of large publicly traded corporations, it's far easier to be consistent.
Sure there are bound to be a few occasional exceptions where personalities have clashed or deals have gone sour, and the resultant fall-out has led to reluctance to do future business. Mikami and the GameCube; Akihiro Hino and Microsoft, probably other examples that escape me. There may be a grain of truth in the hullabaloo around EA and Nintendo even. Business is about relationships too of course.
But at the end of the day the almighty dollar/euro/yen rules more often than not.
TheNatural
My Member!
Why put anything on Vita at this point? It's about the most dead 'active' system of all time.
katsubento
Member
Fools. MH is basically free money Capcom...
ThatObviousUser
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Face it Tiger..
Banned
Foolishness, Capcom, foolishness.
*puts katana back in sheath*
*puts katana back in sheath*
nailbombxx
Member
Because the hardware is good?
Unknown One
Member
Watch it happen.
In Japan. If they released a MH on vita I bet capcom wouldn't even bother localizing. I bet SS is gonna bomb in the us.
TheNatural
My Member!
What does that have to do with making money?
If good hardware were the case, maybe companies should support that goofy ass looking NVidia 'handheld.'
The hardware being good hasn't exactly been a great selling point for the system anywhere.
ThatObviousUser
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Isn't it rumored that Sony (America) is also the reason P3rd HD never got localized anywhere?
PS2 had more everything except mainline RE.
That's another laugh against the "Capcom is a business, they don't do charity" idea. Anyone with eyes could tell SFxT was gonna bomb hard on Vita but instead of canceling it they released it. It was pretty clear that Sony paid for that though.
It's not a rumor. Sven's said as much. Monster Hunter Portable 3rd HD uses SCEJ's network infrastructure to connect online. Neither SCEE, or SCEA have that, nor were they willing to build that for a single game.