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Cave Story coming to Switch [June, $30, new local MP mode, new bonus stages]
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Solid SOAP
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bruh you are in for a treat
The game is super replayable too; prepare to find the urge to get the best ending, beat it on hard mode, beat it as Curly, etc... It's so damn good. Crazy how polished and full of character the game is considering one dude made it.
I love this damn game
I thing somebody else arranged the Famitracks version. That person was credited by Nicalis prior to the release of Cave Story+ on their twitter.
Sky Fortress is great, it's a nice challenge that should be pretty chill for anyone who's beaten the best ending. I wish it was longer.
Oh never mind then. They're really talented because it sounds incredibly faithful to the original.
Mammoth Jones
Member
I'm in the same boat. How is it? I'm tempted to grab it but 30$ seems steep for a game that's over a decade old...
They're working on adding the old classic graphics through an update I suppose :
https://twitter.com/nicalis/status/881027617167622144
https://twitter.com/nicalis/status/881027617167622144
PixyJunket
Member
Sweet, that was pretty much the only thing missing from making this the perfect version of the game.
BizzyBum
Member
Fine, I guess I have to play through it AGAIN
FinalFanXtreme
Banned
Picked this game up today. Not really liking it. It's really hard and my patience isn't very high. When will it pick up?
How far are you? The first major difficulty jump is the Labyrinth. Cave Story is not the kind of game I would say that you are expected to master on your first time through. If you are having trouble progressing, there's no shame in dropping down to easy difficulty.
Twilight Princess
Member
Should i buy thi sgame if i hate platformers?
The true ending stages are pretty tough.
(locking in that ending changed an area into an entirely different stage towards the end, and then adds a new stage and bosses at the end)
It mentioned 2player mode and even more new bonus stages in the first post of the thread. What are those? How does 2player mode work? Is there just no story in that mode? They mentioned story importance in the bonus stages? (did they actually change how they're implemented or something? I didnt like not being able to take whatever gear and upgrades you had in your save file into them. It'd be kinda cool if there was just like....an npc that let you play those levels from within the game world or something, without messing up the story or worldmap layout)
BizzyBum
Member
No. It's a platformer. lol
Twilight Princess
Member
I still want to buy it because i only have zelda on the switch...
pelicansurf
Needs a Holiday on Gallifrey
It's a great game, but if you don't like platformers... it's a platformer-ass platformer. It can get fairly challenging later on as well.
Do you hate all kinds of plarformers? Because this one puts more emphasis in combat and exploration than actual precise platforming, and unless you go for the best ending you probably won't have too hard of a time.
Outside of gameplay (which is excellent) the game has an entertaining story with cool characters and a wonderful soundtrack. And for what is worth, you can always try the freeware version on PC before buying this.
me0wish
Member
Man, that's awesome.
Jonneh3003
Banned
Im sure many of us have been put off by the $30 price tag (cost me £40 to import it, quit ya whining!) but having played through the game in its entirety I can comfortably say this is the best version of Cave Story to date.
Nicalis appear to be preparing drastic content updates that will further expand the Cave Story experience but even the current base game surpasses any version thats come before it.
For starters: It runs entirely in 16:9 widescreen
PC:
This may sound like a subtle improvement but it drastically changes up the game, you can always see just a little further ahead and it really makes the game pop visually... speaking of visually
Cave Story has been remastered again
You probably got that vibe from the shot above but yes this Cave Story+ is basically Cave Story++. While sprites generally look the same as the older remaster, environments appear to have been completely redrawn. I personally love how background tiles slowly fade into a black abyss, it really adds to the isolated feeling of a cave. The new water engine is very nice, especially when Quote is fully immersed in water and the entire screen becomes disorientated. Theres also snazzy new lighting, Quote subtly illuminates his surroundings, jellyfish cause areas to burst with light. It looks fab.
The downside here is were stuck with these brand new visuals for now but dont worry if you dont like them for whatever reason, theyre patching in the option to change them shortly.
The soundtrack has been remastered .again again
With a new version of Cave Story of course comes a new soundtrack, this time in the way of The Famitracks. Unlike the visuals you can actually select whichever score you want: the original, Cave Story+, the 3DS soundtrack or these new arrangements. I played the entire game with the Famitracks and theyre not bad at all, have a listen:
Character portraits have been brought to life!
Im sure a lot of people will miss this one but character portraits have actually been animated for the first time! Not only that but their positioning is contextual, for example if Kings sprite is facing left then his floating text head will also be facing left. Very neat.
You can stack things! Including puppies!
While Cave Story is easily one of the best games of all time, it could be flawed for two brief fetch quests. One where you repeatedly have to go back and forth for Jelly and another where you have to seek 5 puppies hidden throughout Sand Zone. Yes, we can finally hold multiple versions of the same item, this includes those pesky pups. No more going back and forth! Plus it looks adorable.
Theres already a Metroid game on the Switch
Change your internal clock to Halloween, nice little surprise!
New stuff is coming
Nicalis being Nicalis, this is actually a work in progress package. Yes, its a bit weird the new content wasnt ready for launch but a lot is on the way. For starters the option for older graphical outputs was recently announced and it even retains the new widescreen aspect ratio.
While including content from older versions shouldnt exactly be praised, heres the more exciting stuff. Co-Op. Yep, youll be able to play through the entire Cave Story adventure with your best pal, we dont have many details on this mode but heres a screen. (All patches have been given a vague Summer release date)
and thats not all thats been announced. We should be receiving brand new areas that are tied to the story!
While Cave Story+ on the Switch isnt yet a complete package, its still the best version of Cave Story you can currently buy. Nicalis have given Cave Story a fantastic quality of life treatment and the result is the best version of one of the best video games ever made. Is $30 too much? Up to you.
Nicalis appear to be preparing drastic content updates that will further expand the Cave Story experience but even the current base game surpasses any version thats come before it.
For starters: It runs entirely in 16:9 widescreen
PC:
Switch:
This may sound like a subtle improvement but it drastically changes up the game, you can always see just a little further ahead and it really makes the game pop visually... speaking of visually
Cave Story has been remastered again
You probably got that vibe from the shot above but yes this Cave Story+ is basically Cave Story++. While sprites generally look the same as the older remaster, environments appear to have been completely redrawn. I personally love how background tiles slowly fade into a black abyss, it really adds to the isolated feeling of a cave. The new water engine is very nice, especially when Quote is fully immersed in water and the entire screen becomes disorientated. Theres also snazzy new lighting, Quote subtly illuminates his surroundings, jellyfish cause areas to burst with light. It looks fab.
The downside here is were stuck with these brand new visuals for now but dont worry if you dont like them for whatever reason, theyre patching in the option to change them shortly.
The soundtrack has been remastered .again again
With a new version of Cave Story of course comes a new soundtrack, this time in the way of The Famitracks. Unlike the visuals you can actually select whichever score you want: the original, Cave Story+, the 3DS soundtrack or these new arrangements. I played the entire game with the Famitracks and theyre not bad at all, have a listen:
Character portraits have been brought to life!
Im sure a lot of people will miss this one but character portraits have actually been animated for the first time! Not only that but their positioning is contextual, for example if Kings sprite is facing left then his floating text head will also be facing left. Very neat.
You can stack things! Including puppies!
While Cave Story is easily one of the best games of all time, it could be flawed for two brief fetch quests. One where you repeatedly have to go back and forth for Jelly and another where you have to seek 5 puppies hidden throughout Sand Zone. Yes, we can finally hold multiple versions of the same item, this includes those pesky pups. No more going back and forth! Plus it looks adorable.
Theres already a Metroid game on the Switch
Change your internal clock to Halloween, nice little surprise!
New stuff is coming
Nicalis being Nicalis, this is actually a work in progress package. Yes, its a bit weird the new content wasnt ready for launch but a lot is on the way. For starters the option for older graphical outputs was recently announced and it even retains the new widescreen aspect ratio.
While including content from older versions shouldnt exactly be praised, heres the more exciting stuff. Co-Op. Yep, youll be able to play through the entire Cave Story adventure with your best pal, we dont have many details on this mode but heres a screen. (All patches have been given a vague Summer release date)
and thats not all thats been announced. We should be receiving brand new areas that are tied to the story!
While Cave Story+ on the Switch isnt yet a complete package, its still the best version of Cave Story you can currently buy. Nicalis have given Cave Story a fantastic quality of life treatment and the result is the best version of one of the best video games ever made. Is $30 too much? Up to you.
Jonneh3003
Banned
Cave Story is one of my favourite games, I've played numerous versions multiple times and I'm absolutely thrilled with the improvements they made on Switch. I hope you end up enjoying it as much as I do! There are multiple endings that really change up the closing hours so be sure to check them out when you finish your first playthrough. There's also some cool hidden weapons
I've never liked any of the remastered soundtracks... at all, but I'm really impressed with the famitracks. Unlike any of the other remaster options it suits the retro vibe really well and there are a few places where I prefer it to the original.
Unfortunately, the original organya doesn't sound quite right. I had a feeling something was off, but the
destroyed egg corridor
The only other thing I'm disappointed about is the options menu. They don't allow button mapping, which I'd really like since using L and R to swap instead of ZL and ZR doesn't make sense to me. You also can't choose integer scaling like you could on Steam, meaning that it's a little less sharp. It's nowhere near as blurry as the stretched visuals on Steam were, but it could be better all the same. If they patched up these things it would be far and away the best version.
I'm still on the fence about the visual enhancements like bloom lighting on lasers/powerup triangles and the spotlight effect; they seem a little tacked on and detract from the retro aesthetic, but they at least look pleasant. I really do like the tile fadeouts, though. It makes the image look a lot clearer. 16:9 is also obviously a major plus. I wasn't sure if I wanted to drop $30 on a game I've already bought a few times over, but after playing a while I don't regret it.
Just import it, I got mine for £25.
Anyone else notice a weird bug where directional input just doesn't respond after you undock? Strangely, the start button and menu controls work, just nothing outside of that in that game - had to quit/restart.
Jonneh3003
Banned
I think that's the major point, I don't regret it either. It sounds like a hard pill to swallow but once you've played the game and experienced the refinements they've made to the gameplay and presentation it doesn't feel like wasted money. It feels like a better take on one of the best games out there.
I haven't played Cave Story before, and I actually created a US account just to be able to download this game. Had no idea that the Famitracks version wasn't in the game originally. To me, the Cave Story+ and Famitracks versions are superior to the 2 other versions of the sound track.
BTW, fantastic game so far!
Jonneh3003
Banned
I'm not sure if it's just because the Famitracks are fresh in my mind but I think it's my favourite rendition of the the soundtrack.
Really glad I picked this up. I have the 3DS cart (first version I ever played) and I've got it on my PC as well, but for some reason the Switch version is the first one that's really taken hold of me and made me want to play it all the way through.
The last battles are really frigging hard, and I think it's crazy that you have to do so many consecutive fights without any healing or saving, but I was able to pull out the win once I focused on the attack patterns a little bit more. It was actually kind of refreshing in a way since newer games are so forgiving that learning patterns and memorizing them isn't something that's as critical to success anymore in games. Can't wait to go back in and get the best ending and unlock Curly Mode.
Didn't know there was even more content coming - that's awesome!
The last battles are really frigging hard, and I think it's crazy that you have to do so many consecutive fights without any healing or saving, but I was able to pull out the win once I focused on the attack patterns a little bit more. It was actually kind of refreshing in a way since newer games are so forgiving that learning patterns and memorizing them isn't something that's as critical to success anymore in games. Can't wait to go back in and get the best ending and unlock Curly Mode.
Didn't know there was even more content coming - that's awesome!
The annoying thing about all this extra content is that they've already released a Physical version which by the end of the summer will have been made obsolete. =/
They messed up the best track in the game!? =O
I noticed the Mimiga Village track was distorted actually. Like the volume has been boosted but with nothing extra done to soften the edges.
They messed up the best track in the game!? =O
I noticed the Mimiga Village track was distorted actually. Like the volume has been boosted but with nothing extra done to soften the edges.
Danny Dudekisser
I paid good money for this Dynex!
I can't complain too much, since I obviously loved the game (playing through it 4 times in a week, along with all the challenges? Yeah, I liked it.)
But fuck's sake, finish the game before you sell it. Modern gaming is so fucking stupid.
But fuck's sake, finish the game before you sell it. Modern gaming is so fucking stupid.
BassForever
Member
Cave story has been a finished game for over a decade 🙃
Jonneh3003
Banned
The core package is excellent but it would have been swell if the the other visual modes, Co-Op, new story content and other additions wern't being sprinkled out as content updates.
Yup, will have zero problems as long as they're updates, and if for some reason they're treated like free DLC just make a US account to download them.
Caved and bought the game. I have no willpower.
Anyway, I'm glad my memory sucks, because I remember almost nothing about the game, despite loving it back when I played the Wii version.
Any spoiler free guide to achieve the best ending?
Also, which soundtrack do you guys like the most? I think Remastered is my favorite.
Anyway, I'm glad my memory sucks, because I remember almost nothing about the game, despite loving it back when I played the Wii version.
Any spoiler free guide to achieve the best ending?
Also, which soundtrack do you guys like the most? I think Remastered is my favorite.
Oh shit! Really? That's awesome!
Jonneh3003
Banned
Yep, there are numerous content updates being planned, some as drastic as new areas for the story. The older graphical options seem to be coming very soon.
Finished Cave Story for the first time and I'm a little bit underwhelmed. I didn't get the best ending and looking at how to get it, Im not the slightest bit surprised I missed it.
Tempted to start again but nothing is really drawing me back in. In an attempt to shake things up I started a new game on hard mode, which after half an hour or so is starting to kick my ass especially on boss fights, which are infuriating because of unskippable cut scenes. Wish there were a hard mode that's actually tunes the damage you give and take or enemy volume and placement or something and doesn't just limit you to pathetic health.
I feel like I missed a bunch of stuff (
) but the game didn't grab me enough to dive back in.
Tempted to start again but nothing is really drawing me back in. In an attempt to shake things up I started a new game on hard mode, which after half an hour or so is starting to kick my ass especially on boss fights, which are infuriating because of unskippable cut scenes. Wish there were a hard mode that's actually tunes the damage you give and take or enemy volume and placement or something and doesn't just limit you to pathetic health.
I feel like I missed a bunch of stuff (
traded for machine gun but I went back to gunsmith so I'm guessing you get something good for holding on to Polar Star
Jonneh3003
Banned
Yep, hold onto your Polar Star. Good luck beating the best ending without it.
Hopefully it grows on you a little more but getting the best ending on hard mode will probably feel impossible.
I think so, but I'm not sure. After going on youtube, the videos I found sound the same as the Switch version. I just don't remember it sounding this bad in the older versions of the game I've played... this is the part that really stuck out: https://youtu.be/I5Zt8WJuhQY?t=48s
I've read that the mp3 versions online weren't accurate to the original organya in the game. I'd have to go back to that part in Cave Story + to compare, but my save is nowhere near that. Either way, I switched to Famitracks at that point and enjoyed it for the rest of the game. Some tracks, like geothermal, are better in the organya though.
You will not be asking for a hard mode once you get the true ending. It's an entirely different challenge compared to the ending you saw. And yeah, you're on the right track about the polar star. Keeping it makes the game a little tougher during the middle stretch, which is another nice way to amp up the challenge.
ryanofcall
Member
Can I get a US Downloadcode for the eShop somewhere for this and use it in my UK account? Still hasn't come out in UK...
The first difficulty jump is like the Egg Corridor or Grasslands or depending on your experience even just escaping the first cave.
The Labyrinth boss is more what i'd call the first game quitting roadblock
ElBoxyBrown
Banned
Is Curly Story just the same game but with Curly?
TheAggroCraig
Member
Can I get a US Downloadcode for the eShop somewhere for this and use it in my UK account? Still hasn't come out in UK...
You can make a US account and buy it on there, or just import a physical copy.