cultureculture
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I'm guessing that should be Qingdao if we're talking about a place in China.
(Not to be that guy or anything, just trying to help!)
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Chinese Factory Producing Parts for Wii U Closes Temporarily Due to Anti-JP Demos
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I'm guessing that should be Qingdao if we're talking about a place in China.
(Not to be that guy or anything, just trying to help!)
Dynamite Shikoku
Congratulations, you really deserve it!
Japan should make a nintendo factory on those rocks
specialguy
Banned
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BocoDragon
or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
Delicious how the two hot topics of the day were Wii U and the Chinese riots, and now they delightfully intertwine for my amusement. Popcorn.gif.
Sidewinder
Member
They give you fishing and drilling rights => Profit!
Angry Fork
Member
Wish chinese workers had the political consciousness to revolt against their own government instead and demand legitimate communism. Unfortunately this is just about being anti-japan or historical/cultural reasons I guess.
BocoDragon
or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
Not necessarily. No Chinese parts incoming means a Japanese factory has to stop production.
DXB-KNIGHT
Member
No uninhabited islands should stand between a man and his Wii.
Phife Dawg
Member
It's not about the rocks, it's about the fishing grounds and supposed resources. Made the news here as well without mentioning Nintendo specifically of course.
As long as it supports the party's policy all is good.
cultureculture
Member
Good point... If only there were some way to mark out names written in kanji as being Chinese, Japanese, etc.
Edit
Looks like I was right: http://www.mitsumi.co.jp/ir/damage2012e.html
Holy Order Sol
Member
The Chinese version of GET A BRAIN MORANS.
I'm not amused though. My Wii U has a much higher priority than this nationalistic bullshit. Sigh, all the mainlanders constantly make the life of the Chinese Diaspora harder.
CambriaRising
Member
I'm not amused though. My Wii U has a much higher priority than this nationalistic bullshit. Sigh, all the mainlanders constantly make the life of the Chinese Diaspora harder.
How dare they close down the Nintendo sweatshop for a day.
GrotesqueBeauty
Banned
Nintendo hardware was better when it was manufactured in Japan anyhow.
cosmicblizzard
Banned
Billions worth of property damage and people getting injured (and possibly killed) is amusing to you?
BocoDragon
or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
Yes. This is madness, and what else can you do but watch and laugh at the stupidity of it all?
I don't mind when there are unions doing a strike (for better work conditions), but I don't excuse nationalistic bullshit.
This didn't get enough love.
BocoDragon
or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
I would argue it isn't even about resources. The people rioting don't care about that.
This is about nationalism and old rivalries between China and Japan... And also about whatever purpose this nationalism can be channeled by the CCP leadership as well as Japanese politicians like Tokyo governor Ishihara. CCP has a leadership transition coming up, and they'll use this to secure that transition, as will the Japanese politicians for their own ends.
cosmicblizzard
Banned
I'd call it sad and scary before I would funny. It's a pretty extreme instance of herd mentality destroying any kind of rational thought and leading to some REALLY bad destruction. This isn't a few small groups going crazy, this is nearly 100 cities. If things persist, the lasting effects won't be pretty.
BocoDragon
or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
We don't fundamentally disagree. I've been debating this topic for days online and off. But I'd call the fact that the Wii U has been dragged into this pretty goddamn funny.
All humor is to ease pain. Think about it.
Castor Krieg
Banned
I doubt this will help you.
cosmicblizzard
Banned
I guess. I really only started following this earlier today, so I haven't had a bunch of back and forths about it or anything like that. I imagine someone who has been following it since the beginning would be more likely to look for ways to make it amusing.
BocoDragon
or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
I also live in a city who rioted recently over a hockey game. Stores smashed to bits, in the same way as today (the scale's different, but so is everything in China)
There are riots right now in the middle east over a movie.
It's not really scary, so much as dumb IMO. I've seen it before in human nature.. Not surprised at all that Chinese would be drummed up by anti-Japanese sentiment.
And in two months the cycle will continue as Nintendo fans riot over unfulfilled preorder slips ;P
These riots are completely insane. Japan is one of the reasons China is now an industrial power house. Japan uses Chinese companies to manufacture it's products so this helps no one. The worst thing is, these pictures are getting out without any censorship meaning the Chinese government also approves. Honestly, riots all over the world with Muslims... Chinese going crazy over Japan. The fuck is wrong with this world?
BocoDragon
or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
Of course the Chinese govt approves. This would have never been allowed to happen otherwise.
And I'd say a lot of the rioting in the world today is due to the Internet/social media, allowing for spread of information and mobilization
BocoDragon
or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
They are truly scum.
Phife Dawg
Member
This was in response to people questioning the worth of the rocks. The actual situation is much more complex, mixing economical interest with domestic and foreign policies, history etc.
specialguy
Banned
But your Wii U is gonna cost $500 when Nintendo has to pay factory workers in Japan $20 an hour instead of $1 in China...
BocoDragon
or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
True. It's obviously not easy to sum up in a few sentences. But I would say that, yes, a lot of the reason people are on the ground is because of the simplistic reason of the rocks getting stolen by big mean enemy Japan. They are being used by those who have more tangible aims, however...
I wouldn't mind letting the Vietnamese build the Wii U. Unfortunately, this won't happen soon, bureacracy and corruption are still too strong in Vietnam. The government needs to step up their game.
Dynamite Shikoku
Congratulations, you really deserve it!
Thailand for the win
there is a reason why everything is made in China
Cost of labour is the main part, but also the relatively safe environment and advanced infrastructure. There are other countries with even lower cost of labour, but companies still prefer China, at least until now. This is slowly going to change in the next two decade, if not even earlier because of the rising labour cost in China.
Yeah in Europe we still burn those filthy German cars every time they manage to slip across the border, considering what the Germans did to their neighbours during WWII... :/
Relations with China were normalised 40 years ago.
BocoDragon
or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
Yeah it's not so much atrocities 70 years ago that are the concern, so much as how
1. lack of atonement and nationalism continued in the decades since, and more importantly
2. how it's been strategically unleashed by political interests over the past weeks and months for their own purposes.
seems like china is beginning to stretch its muscle..
nearly all manufacturers have their product manufacturing in china now and only HQ rwmains in the region the company originates from
not saying the senkaku or diaoyu isles belong to japan or vice versa but this will hurt the japanese companies in the future...
nearly all manufacturers have their product manufacturing in china now and only HQ rwmains in the region the company originates from
not saying the senkaku or diaoyu isles belong to japan or vice versa but this will hurt the japanese companies in the future...
BocoDragon
or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
Definitely. You might have paid a price in terms of national guilt, but it has gone a long way to easing resentment.
so thats why the german secret service helped nazi terrorists to kill 10 innocent immigrants the last decade..
to say germany is white washed from its crimes is way too naive when xenophobia and antisemitism is widely accepted in germany with people like dobrindt (high ranking politician) are openly discussing to ban immigrants that are not highly qualified
That is more to do with China having a near monopoly on the worlds REM supply than cheap labour costs.
Interesting, I think companies pulling out, and having factories in Vietnam or the Philippines (coincidentally both countries with territory disputes with China) will hurt China more than Japan.
To spell it out a bit more, it's also largely because in China factories are allowed to pollute a lot more, which means Western companies can export pollution to China without paying any fines. This won't stop until Chinese are pissed off enough about the destruction of their land.
Your avatar says it all.
Enough is enough.
Big Bo doesn't approve either.
I don't want to be "that guy", especially with being german, but Japan never really admitting their warcrimes during WWII or even acknowledging their killings in Nanjing, of forced prostitution of chinese women, which they call by the euphemism "pleasure women" (ianfu), might have played a part in it. It took an eighth party coalition led by Hosokawa in the 90s to finally speak of the truth. MPs visiting the yasukuni shrine (we are looking at you Koizumi) to honour fallen citizens in WWII including warcriminals didn't help either. Of course these feelings are instrumentalized by the chinese government but I met a lot of chinese in my generation in Japan who still have mixed feelings about Japan, some even expressed their hatred and just came for the education. It's anecdotal evidence, but Japans media often underline their role as victims of WWII while their role as aggressors is neglected.