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Ah, good to know. I missed out on its first release so will defintely check it out this time around. Thanks.

No problem I havnt played the SNES version of Chrono Trigger myself, hopefully i will some day. Or maybe i will play the DS version first, i dont know, unfortunately i'm sometimes lazy when it comes to play some games I guess its the lack of motivation to start to play games, especially role playing games that are relatively long. But sometimes if i start to play these games the motivation might come so i will contunie to play the games more

 

[Fatbot]

So is it a just a 2D port like the gametrailers video makes it out to be?

 

[xabre]

A DS Terranigma remake is needed.

 

[PandaPandaPanda]

So is it a just a 2D port like the gametrailers video makes it out to be?

My guess that it is unless someone can post something proving otherwise.

If that is the case, they'll probably release another version ala the FF4 remake later down the line just because they can (as it'll sell copies both ways.)

 

[xabre]

A DS Terranigma remake is still needed.

 

[RpgN]

To be honest, they're being pretty lazy with this port. I'm not asking for a huge remake, but the ds is not a gba either. So take advantage of what the ds can offer with better 2d graphics and music. Though the graphics do look nice now and definitely for a snes game, but it should have been more for a ds game.

 

[Somnia]

They most definatly are just pushing it out the door because they know we will buy it either way, but if this game sells good enough and that makes them make a sequel...I am all for it

 

[Zeenbor]

Looks like they've upgraded the colors from the SNES restrictions (16 4-bit palettes). It's much, much more vibrant now. There are many more colors being used! I'm guessing this is what they mean by "enhanced".

 

[Death_Born]

Looks like they've upgraded the colors from the SNES restrictions (16 4-bit palettes). It's much, much more vibrant now. There are many more colors being used! I'm guessing this is what they mean by "enhanced".

So.....it's like the Okami port?

Where is teh paper filter!!!11!

 

[Dragona Akehi]

Looks like they've upgraded the colors from the SNES restrictions (16 4-bit palettes). It's much, much more vibrant now. There are many more colors being used! I'm guessing this is what they mean by "enhanced".

I think you forget just how pretty CT was on the SFC.

 

[JoshuaJSlone]

I hope they fill in the blanks of Triple Techs (I seem to recall a few empty combinations).

I don't remember how many triple techs there were, but I believe there'd be 35 possible three-party combinations. So yeah, a lot unfilled.

Looks like they've upgraded the colors from the SNES restrictions (16 4-bit palettes). It's much, much more vibrant now. There are many more colors being used! I'm guessing this is what they mean by "enhanced".

Any direct comparisons you want to make with old pics? I'm trying not to read too much into things like the released screenshots. Considering the original game was 256x224 and each DS screen is 256x192, JPEG screens at resolutions like 290x217 are stretched and imprecise.

 

[Zeenbor]

I think you forget just how pretty CT was on the SFC.

OLD:

NEW:

You can see the difference, hopefully. There are just more colors being used (and different colors being used all together).

Can't be for certain until we get direct screen grabs though.

 

[Aeana]

OLD:

NEW:

You can see the difference, hopefully. It's not blurry in the new one, there are just more colors being used.

Can't be for certain until we get direct screen grabs though.

How about...

 

[RpgN]

The snes version looks sharper and better :lol Please let this be just the screenshot quality!

 

[charlequin]

The snes version looks sharper and better :lol

That's just the fact that the new shots are scaled up to a non-exact-multiple resolution for some idiotic reason.

 

[Diablos]

It's just because the screenshot isn't native and thus is a result of the effect of the resize filter.

 

[psy18]

Just throw away your hope for getting graphic revamp.
Might be better if they put the resource to add more story/explanation with CC.

 

[Zeenbor]

How about...

Thank you. I was too lazy.

 

[Death_Born]

Anti-aliasing actually DEGRADES 2D graphics. Horribly.

You mean to tell me that left looks better than right?

 

[Aeana]

You mean to tell me that left looks better than right?

Absolutely. The smaller details are completely lost in the right version.

 

[Dragona Akehi]

You mean to tell me that left looks better than right?

Wayyy better. Sprite "filtering" just makes a blurry mess. Pixels are a beautiful thing.

 

[Princess Skittles]

You mean to tell me that left looks better than right?

120% yes. Far better, no contest.

 

[Chemo]

You mean to tell me that left looks better than right?

Yeah, the left one looks beautiful and the right one looks like smudgy bullshit.

 

[Fireblend]

You mean to tell me that left looks better than right?

http://i32.tinypic.com/k1b3ti.png[/IM][/QUOTE]
...yes. Pixels <3

 

[MoxManiac]

You mean to tell me that left looks better than right?

I think you spilled some vaseline on that right pic.

 

[minor effort]

You mean to tell me that left looks better than right?

Uh, the one on the left looks infinitely better. It also looks better when it isn't scaled way out of proportion. You guys can keep your smudgy, blurry, messy filters. I've never thought they looked good on emulators.

A redrawn Chrono Trigger wouldn't be bad, but you can't really just rely on these filters to do that job.

This game will look great running on an actual DS, as it looks great on a TV when played on an SNES.

 

[Zombie James]

You guys forget that CRTs combined with the low resolution of 16-bit systems and shoddy RF/composite connections would cause it's own blur and filtered look. As much as you guys like the look of the screen on the left, what most of use saw on our TVs was closer to the one on the right (just not as clear).

 

[Angry Grimace]

Wow, complaining about it costing 40 dollars to buy now...you guys remember what the original cartridge cost? Yup, a cool $70.00.

According to inflation measured by the Consumer Price Index, what cost $70 in 1994 would cost $99.27 in 2007.

 

[A Link to the Past]

Complaining about it costing 40 dollars...you guys remember what the original cartridge cost? According to the inflation calculators, what cost $70 in 1994 would cost $99.27 in 2007.

Point? The cards do not cost as much to make as the SNES game did.

It's an SE tax, not a legitimate "we need to make the money back". CTDS will be a must-buy, but it doesn't need to be priced at $40.00, because it's just a port with extras that was really just a GBA game.

 

[Prime crotch]

Man I hate these 2xSAI Eagle filters, it always looks wrong.

 

[Angry Grimace]

Point? The cards do not cost as much to make as the SNES game did.

It's an SE tax, not a legitimate "we need to make the money back". CTDS will be a must-buy, but it doesn't need to be priced at $40.00, because it's just a port with extras that was really just a GBA game.

Point being that a little perspective is in order. And it's hardly an "S-E tax", becuase you don't have to buy it. The fact remains that for the most part, half of the SNES cartridges don't even work anymore due to the battery wearing out.

I'll grant that everyone's also played this one before, but then again, you're also getting it for 40% of what it cost when it came out and that now it's portable, which seems to be most overlooked positive of the re-issue.

I personally have some excitement over the fact that Squeenix is putting out ANYTHING with the word "Chrono" in the title after having basically thrown the series in the wastebin for almost 10 years.

 

[Alpha_eX]

You mean to tell me that left looks better than right?

It won't look anything like the shot on the left when on the DS because you've scaled it up to try make a point.

 

[Aeana]

You guys forget that CRTs combined with the low resolution of 16-bit systems and shoddy RF/composite connections would cause it's own blur and filtered look. As much as you guys like the look of the screen on the left, what most of use saw on our TVs was closer to the one on the right (just not as clear).

It looked more like that, for me.

 

[DDayton]

You mean to tell me that left looks better than right?

http://i32.tinypic.com/k1b3ti.png

Yes, the one on the left looks better. The atrocity on the right is a blurry, ugly mess.

You guys forget that CRTs combined with the low resolution of 16-bit systems and shoddy RF/composite connections would cause it's own blur and filtered look. As much as you guys like the look of the screen on the left, what most of use saw on our TVs was closer to the one on the right (just not as clear).

Nope. I never had anything as ugly as the filtered mess on my television. I had very distinct visible pixels and clarity. Not everyone on the planet used RF and a dead TV, you know... some of us used composite or s-video and a good quality display unit.

 

[Angry Grimace]

Yes, the one on the left looks better. The atrocity on the right is a blurry, ugly mess.


Nope. I never had anything as ugly as the filtered mess on my television. I had very distinct visible pixels and clarity. Not everyone on the planet used RF and a dead TV, you know... some of us used composite or s-video and a good quality display unit.

And some of us were actual children that enjoyed video games for their overall effect rather than whether the freakin' pixels were properly visible. :lol

 

[Iaido Sword]

Those bullshots need more gray, brown, and bloom.

Waaay too colourful.

 

[Nemo]

Upscaled pixels suck ass, no matter what GAF says. Thank god for filters.

 

[Princess Skittles]

Upscaled pixels suck ass, no matter what GAF says. Thank god for filters.

 

[Vinci]

Those bullshots need more gray, brown, and bloom.

Waaay too colourful.

CONFIRMED: S-E is internally restructuring for the future: Wii and DS games. They're skipping next-gen from now on.

 

[A Link to the Past]

Point being that a little perspective is in order. And it's hardly an "S-E tax", becuase you don't have to buy it. The fact remains that for the most part, half of the SNES cartridges don't even work anymore due to the battery wearing out.

I'll grant that everyone's also played this one before, but then again, you're also getting it for 40% of what it cost when it came out and that now it's portable, which seems to be most overlooked positive of the re-issue.

I personally have some excitement over the fact that Squeenix is putting out ANYTHING with the word "Chrono" in the title after having basically thrown the series in the wastebin for almost 10 years.

A little perspective? You're comparing an awful situation where games were horrible expensive to a much, much, much better situation and using it to validate making games more expensive.

Your post definitely failed to establish one thing - that the game, NOW, should be overpriced.

 

[CO_Andy]

 

[Reilly]

Wow, complaining about it costing 40 dollars to buy now...you guys remember what the original cartridge cost? Yup, a cool $70.00.

According to inflation measured by the Consumer Price Index, what cost $70 in 1994 would cost $99.27 in 2007.

This is by far the biggest piece of shit post I've seen in awhile.

 

[Rentahamster]

Those bullshots need more gray, brown, and bloom.

Waaay too colourful.

Yeah, it looks nothing like Diablo II!!


Anyway, what Aeana posted is pretty much how it looked on my TV so many years ago. I then remember that Chrono Trigger was one of the first games that I tried my fancy new S-video cable. It looked...different.

Sometimes pixel filters work and sometimes they don't. I think they're really outstanding when used on a game that is intended to have that kind of look anyway, like Yoshi's Story.

 

[Angry Grimace]

I hope they fill in the blanks of Triple Techs (I seem to recall a few empty combinations).

It's not that there were "empty" combinations, it's that for the most part (without special items) they all required Crono to be a part of them. Given that there was no real incentive (or even ability for most of the game) to remove him from your party, I can see why they didn't bother making any of those.

 

[truendo]

Sweet! I'm excited to buy this!

 

[The Hermit]

So.....it's like the Okami port?

Where is teh paper filter!!!11!

Lord no!

This is as close to the Snes as it gets.

 

[Nemo]

Okay, you got me. :lol Can't believe I missed that.

BTW, has it been confirmed/debunked yet if this is what Nintendo Power was talking about?

 

[Jiggy]

While I'm thinking about it, I think it'd be really cool if they took a cue from The World Ends With You and unlock a chapter select for New Game+. Or--well, what I have in mind isn't exactly a chapter select, but something along the lines of a system where each time you see one of the endings, you open some kind of feature where you can jump to a point in the story where you would be able to get that ending when you feel like it. I don't know, it's hard to explain, but it'd be interesting to see.

I'd also like it if they took the cue to allow you to scale down your level whenever, so that I could adjust down and have some fun fighting wussy beginning-of-game bosses only to adjust back up when needed, but I'll try not to be too hopeful about that one.



Anyway, re: the price... As with the Dragon Quest remakes, TWEWY, and others, I'm annoyed at the probable Square-Enix Tax precisely because Chrono Trigger is such an excellent game. The gaming world isn't all about me, and I don't want one more layer of psychological barrier potentially preventing would-have-been newcomers from getting in on high-quality gaming, from purchasing CT, and from implicitly saying by doing so that they want more games in this vein. Fanservice and portability is great and all, but it would be nice if Chrono Trigger (and the DQ remakes) could earn another audience besides that whole wide world of 1) diehards who have already played and 2) people who have already had those diehards shill the game for them.

 

[JoshuaJSlone]

Regardless of one's thoughts on techniques for enlarging and smoothing sprites (which is NOT anti-aliasing), there's no way that was going to happen on DS's lower resolution screen anyway, so it's a moot disappointment.

 

[BocoDragon]

Regardless of one's thoughts on techniques for enlarging and smoothing sprites (which is NOT anti-aliasing), there's no way that was going to happen on DS's lower resolution screen anyway, so it's a moot disappointment.

Is it lower resolution than the SNES??? If so.. disappointing.