Honestly, I think Google Pixel blows the Iphone out of the water in terms of tech
But again, Apple had so many phones and certainly make more money on their phone
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CNN: How Android beat the iPhone to world domination
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Honestly, I think Google Pixel blows the Iphone out of the water in terms of tech
But again, Apple had so many phones and certainly make more money on their phone
excelsiorlef
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dl77
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Surely though that just proves the article headline as ridiculous even more? Google have succeeded in what they want, which isn't what Apple want.
This article makes me think back to the iPhone 5c.
Did they discontinue that product line because it was meant to battle the mid tier Android phones.
I know we likely have zero numbers but that bet didn't seem to largely come off for Apple.
It was a good strategic move but maybe it was still too expensive for mid-tier?
Did they discontinue that product line because it was meant to battle the mid tier Android phones.
I know we likely have zero numbers but that bet didn't seem to largely come off for Apple.
It was a good strategic move but maybe it was still too expensive for mid-tier?
This looks like a projection 😗
crazy monkey
Banned
Not Pixel. A galaxy flagship
Usually has more tech than ever
every other phone usually. They were doing waterproof phone with SD card headphones jack and removable batteries in 2014.
Oh yeah thanks for that reminder I forgot the SE exists!
Still very pricey at a base of $399.
Camper Van Beethoven
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Android is dominating the world, Apple dominates America and the high end market. There is a difference.
dl77
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Apple take well over 80% percent of smartphone profits globally, how is that not dominating the world?!
TarpitCarnivore
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The answer to this is really not that difficult: There are far more companies producing Android products and at far lower cost than even Apple's lowest end device. That's it. There is no rocket science to this at all.
Emerging markets can go pick up an Android phone for $50, pop in a sim and be on their way. Android phone companies, like Nokia, also make multi-sim devices which matter in some markets.
Emerging markets can go pick up an Android phone for $50, pop in a sim and be on their way. Android phone companies, like Nokia, also make multi-sim devices which matter in some markets.
Hamster Plugin
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The public transportation service in Helsinki, Finland has an Android exclusive app that uses NFC to read their card and tells you how much credit is left on it. It's Android exclusive because Apple does not allow the iPhone's NFC to be used by third party app developers.
In addition, Humble Bundle has cheap mobile game bundles that can't be given away on iOS because it's Apple's app store only over there.
pretty much
I came to this realization when I smashed my high end smartphone (fell face first onto concrete). I needed a phone quickly so picked up a $200 Acer Zest Plus from Costco
...and I can literally do everything I was previously doing without noticing a difference in performance.
I commute over an hour each day to work by train so my phone is used a lot for the apps you mentioned above on top of connecting to work via Citrix or VmWare Horizon.
I was actually going to start a thread a while back about why exactly do we go out and by the latest phones when there is such a small return on such a large investment.
andythinkpad
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OléGunner;242143383 said:
You can get an iPhone se around 120-150 during black friday. I got one just for my Osmo Mobile. Nobody wants apple's low end stuff. It's like Mercedes B class.
TwiztidElf
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Android is the Windows of the phone world.
iPhone is the (ahem) Mac.
Microsoft, caught napping again is sool.
iPhone is the (ahem) Mac.
Microsoft, caught napping again is sool.
andythinkpad
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New phones stop offering noticeable performance boost over the previous models around 3 years ago.
Because the article is not about Apple but about iOS and Android.
The brainwashing works, I remember being upset that I would have to "settle" for the 720P screen.
Only to run Netflix and realize who the hell can actually tell the difference for 720p vs 1080p on a 5.5 inch screen lol
I had an iPhone 3GS, got bored of iOS and went to Android (Samsing Galaxy) and never looked back.
Being in iOS make sme feel like Im under an authoritarian regime, can only do what Apple wants me to do on the phone.
My familiy have iPads, iPhones 7, MACs so I know exactly how the iOS still is today and it is still boring.
Just puts my thoughts out on smartphones.
Being in iOS make sme feel like Im under an authoritarian regime, can only do what Apple wants me to do on the phone.
My familiy have iPads, iPhones 7, MACs so I know exactly how the iOS still is today and it is still boring.
Just puts my thoughts out on smartphones.
Because to a lot of people, phones are an accessory and status symbol. According to a study conducted by Bitkom, 63% own a phone that hasn't even been out for a year (88% less than 2 years old). It's pretty crazy (and also extremely harmful for the environment).
Crazy price for a phone with such a great cam and chip. They are still selling at a pretty high price here in Germany despite being, well, "entry level".
ReplacementPelican
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This reads like an incredibly vague post.
I mean, if you want a discussion about what I said you're more than welcome to it, however, I don't feel its 'projection' to get the implication that this:
Implies that its a 'sick fucking lowkey burn' to have poor people consume your products. I think that's pompous. If you think that's either an incorrect takeaway or he's right to feel that way then we can have a discussion about that. If not, why bother replying to me?
Seriously?
Whats your opinion? How do you feel? Do you agree? Do you disagree? If so why?
Bustanen
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This. Xiaomi is the best value brand these days. Semi flagship specs for under $200.
I recently got my father this - its a Redmi Note 4.
The 2GB Ram/16gb memory costs $130, I got him the 4GB/64gb version that costs $170.
Aside from the camera which is still very serviceable and probably somewhere around iphone 5s/6 quality, everything else is pretty much top notch. The OS is incredibly speedy and the 5.5" screen is gorgeous. The screen is not as bright as the latest iphone, but it is still incredible quality at $170.
I guess many people in the US have plans and get the phone subsidised, but in Australia, there's still significant savings to be had if you buy your phone outright and then sign up to a plan seperately.
The Redmi 4x which is the 5" version starts at $99 and by all accounts is just as good.
After my iphone 6 is on its last legs, I'll probably switch to Android for the first time. The only sad thing is that I'll never get to have an Apple Watch sadly.
Paying $700-800 for a phone is just stupid.
Its not ONLY for poorer people, but its certainly helpful to have phones for sub-$100 in poorer countries so people can have access to those networks. The Moto E, for example, is on amazon for like $80 and is a perfectly serviceable phone for someone on a very tight budget. If you paid $80 for an iPhone, its probably like an iPhone 4 or older with a busted screen that runs like crap.
Thats not a knock on either brand, its just the truth of the matter.
Mhmm. Its amazing how badly MS missed the boat on mobile post-iPhone/Android. A shame too, cause Windows Phone has a really neat interface and was very smooth. I used an HTC and a Nokia Lumia phone for a while and the build quality of both was excellent, but there were basically zero apps that I needed, and the ones that were there were buggy garbage most of the time. It also had a knack for resetting my morning alarm which was super fun.
People keep saying theyre gonna release a Surface Phone but that has been rumored for years. I just dont see that happening now, unless they can make it super cheap AND very good quality. While the Surface brand is usually high quality, being cheap is not something its known for.
MilkyJoe
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yikes
Camper Van Beethoven
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Yeah but that's not the ecosystem.
When you're talking about open ecosystem you're talking about the stuff you can get that isn't on the Play store. Which is mostly fringe and unimportant.
Because it's not just about profit on hardware sales.
excelsiorlef
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That's all just speculation though. Things are how they are, it's good to have both. No one really cares what phone you buy.
Chairman Yang
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As an Apple fan who doesn't own a significant amount of Apple stock, I nevertheless feel like I'm somehow part of Apple and feel comfort that they're making so much profit and will bring that up as what really matters if someone mentions the success of my enemy phones.
Reminds me of the massive jumps in the PC space in the past decades that has slowed down a lot. Now smartphones seem to have reached a similar maturity.
I only bought my new phone because the old one didn't have a SD slot and ran out of space all the time, otherwise I was entirely happy with it.
Always-honest
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Well yeah, 86% is a lot. Had no idea it was so much.
Of course, Apple makes the phones and the OS. But still, 86%.
And to think 90% of those people would rather have an iPhone. If Apple was smart and would sell them at a reasonable price... But that will never happen.
andythinkpad
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What?! Apple tried, multiple times.
No they haven't. They made a cheaper quality model but was still stupid expensive.
Always-honest
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Nnnot really.
Baron Doggystyle von Woof
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Apple has 91% of the profit in mobile devices. How is that a domination for Android?
http://fortune.com/2016/02/14/apple-mobile-profit-2015/
http://fortune.com/2016/02/14/apple-mobile-profit-2015/
ronaldthump
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I cant' even tag people properly in android's version of instastories = time to get back on the IOS bandwagon. Not sure why but its always jankier on android for me.
The Faceless Master
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be together.
not the same.
not the same.
Userbase
This is so true. A colleague of mine recently bought a BLU Android phone to use as an MP3 player and I was blown away by the quality considering that it cost around $90.
That said, there is still a difference in the user experience between a high end Android phone and a low end one(mostly owing to the screen quality, disk space and RAM).
Because profit from selling hardware isn't the end all be all?
Pretty sure Google knows that Apple has that segment of the market cornered, which is why they focused on getting Android out into as many people's hands as possible. How much does Apple make from services compared to Google? I doubt it's even a fraction of what Google makes.
Considering it's a device you have on you everyday, 365 days a year, that you use constantly for communicating, photography, consuming media and many other features, I don't think its so crazy to upgrade it annually if you can afford it and are recycling your old device properly.
Different strategies. Android's userbase is due to low cost devices, period. I don't think Apple would give up what they'd done to have that, they have great brand recognition and most of the relevant money in the space, not mention developer support. And even then Google at least keeps leaning harder on Apple's strategies assuming more control of the ecosystem to milk more and more out of their services being installed by default.
They earned it without at all benefiting from being based in the USA?
The tax avoidance by the big tech companies is absolutely disgusting
Only if you think being poor is something to be ashamed of, then yeah sure
This.
