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Confirmed: Sony Announces PSN Pass, Online Access Pass For 1st Party Titles [Updated]
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Deadly Joker
Member
Marius_ said:
What about people that rent games?
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
Lagspike_exe said:
People in this conversation who are consumers:
- Stumpokapow
- Lagspike_exe
- Everyone else in the thread
People in this conversation who are Sony:
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Billychu said:
Obviously there's only be one pass per game...they'll probably all fall under the umbrella branding of PSN pass in time. Maybe, in fact, Sony will force third party pubs to use this, and take a slice of their pass revenue. That'd be interesting to see how that goes down.
Anyway, looks like used players will be subsidising free online play for the rest of us.
StealthGoblin
Banned
alr1ghtstart said:
If you buy it new you'd get the PSN pass included for free.
Didn't they use a pass for Socom on PS3 as well? Also just wait until they figure out how to do this for single player games. Probably some sort of content locking, like charging to pay for the ending like Cliffy B said back in the day. It's coming and as a consumer who buys most of my games new and supports the devs who makes games I like if that's what they need to do to stick around more power to them.
Gram Negative Cocci
Member
Galvanise_ said:
This has nothing to do with PS+.
Tell me what is the VALUE in EA Online Pass or Sony's PSN Pass?
corporate cheerleader
Member
Suzzopher said:
Everyone's crazy except for you, feels good?
Lagspike_exe
Member
Stumpokapow said:
My point was that even though this effectively goes against my interests (since reselling my games would be harder and less cost effective and buying used games would provide me with only a portion of the experience), Sony sees the second hand market as a possible revenue generator. And I really don't see any major backlash against this, aside from internet forums. The trade off will be worth it for Sony.
I keep trying to think of an industry where there's precedence of charging consumers for using the full capabilities of a used product, but it escapes me.
It's kinda sad, yet if there's sufficient backlash, I feel like it could make digital distribution more attractive to some consumers, which could make for some interesting developments.
Although, I wonder why Sony as the platform holder is doing this as opposed to leaving the individual publisher to their own methods.
Secondhand markets have always been a part of economies. There's no reason why consumers should buy games new if there's a better value proposition; if anything, the question is why are the products so disposable that the secondhand market is a threat to the primary one.
There's nothing about this that's not anti-consumer.
It's kinda sad, yet if there's sufficient backlash, I feel like it could make digital distribution more attractive to some consumers, which could make for some interesting developments.
Although, I wonder why Sony as the platform holder is doing this as opposed to leaving the individual publisher to their own methods.
slayzz said:
Secondhand markets have always been a part of economies. There's no reason why consumers should buy games new if there's a better value proposition; if anything, the question is why are the products so disposable that the secondhand market is a threat to the primary one.
There's nothing about this that's not anti-consumer.
R_thanatos
Member
Not really happy about online passes if this is true .
i found WKC2 days ago very cheap used but could buy it since it has a online pass ...
i was really annoyed by the only game i possess with a online pass and that is need for speed : HP.
NEVER AGAIN
If this is a online pass , then Res3 won't see my console
i found WKC2 days ago very cheap used but could buy it since it has a online pass ...
i was really annoyed by the only game i possess with a online pass and that is need for speed : HP.
NEVER AGAIN
If this is a online pass , then Res3 won't see my console
Angry Fork
Member
Agree with this. Except in certain cases like Activision that are dipshit publishers, but I don't play their games anyway. But I have to smh @ anyone planning on renting a game like Last Guardian or whatever. Yea you could save money and beat it in that time, but it's still extremely douchey to the developers for the hard work and dedication.slayzz said:
Dedication Through Light
Member
Maybe its just to prepay for DLC. Why would a pass to play online be advertised on a NEW console boxart?
Galvanise_ said:
No I rent, I've exclusively done so since that turd MGS4 released and realized that paying £35 for a game does not make sense. The only exception has been the MH PSP games which are mint and GT5 which I regret not renting. Looking at the games releasing this year the only ones I want to play online are MW3, R3 co-op and FIFA 12. Looking at past practice it seems I will not be playing FIFA 12, R3 co-op so all that remains is MW3 which could also change. Will never pay this online pass shit thought for any of the games, it's a bummer I miss the online portion but this is where Lovefilm comes in handy again. So many games coming out this year the SP portions alone will keep be happy.
StealthGoblin
Banned
Gram Negative Cocci said:
Online gaming and access to that whole other side of the game. I see value in online gaming.
If I buy a game used, for a fraction of the cost, and not a single penny of that goes to Sony/EA who developed the online side of that game, that is not good for them.
Surely you can see that side to it?
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
Lagspike_exe said:
Let's just review the conversation here:
1) Gram Negative Cocci: "I don't like this"
2) Exuro: "Why not?"
3) Me: "Because it does not benefit us and it could cost us money"
4) You: "Yes but it benefits Sony"
5) Me: "Okay, but I'm not Sony"
6) You: "Yes but it benefits Sony"
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RockmanWhore
Member
Between the lack of dedicated servers, the overpriced DLC, and now the online pass, I kinda feel like editors are trying everything they can to kill online gaming.
I was planning to buy this game brand new, but that just sucks for the long run, less people will be inclined to play it online if you have to pay for it. The only result I can see will be a faster death of the community.
I was planning to buy this game brand new, but that just sucks for the long run, less people will be inclined to play it online if you have to pay for it. The only result I can see will be a faster death of the community.
This is on a hardware bundle, correct? Did anyone think this could just be Sony, you know advertising their online services in an attempt to get people to connect? "PSN Pass" doesn't exactly have a logo or anything, so it makes me believe it's marketing, rather than a new tier of PSN.
MetalFearSolid
Banned
LOL..and it only does everything??...MrPliskin said:
Krauser Kat
Member
Awesome. I really dont give a shit. Buying new for access to all of the content should be the way it is.
Skellig Gra
Member
Gamefly is not looking so hot these days.
Anticitizen One
Banned
I hope this idea of buying passes finally kills gamestop. I can't stand that store, their business practices, and the people they have running the place.
Noisepurge
Member
Meh, i think project 10 dollar is a great concept! I tend to take the developers side in these money issues. Maybe PSN Pass is the new term for Sony first party titles.
Square Triangle
Member
Nirolak said:
Or Twisted Metal.
Anticitizen One said:
Hahahaha.
Reason I sometimes buy PS3 games used is because the blu-ray disc 99% of the time stays like brand new and scratch free. With cheap as shit prices while basically getting a new game why wouldn't someone buy used?
With that said this also means we'll see more of this and probably even more (read: worse) ways to fuck used gamers over. People already forgetting "the arcade experience" or something? Interesting times ahead
With that said this also means we'll see more of this and probably even more (read: worse) ways to fuck used gamers over. People already forgetting "the arcade experience" or something? Interesting times ahead