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[Maddness]

Why is her head shaped like a Ninja Turtle?

Fitting that this thread is about Feldman.

 

[leadbelly]

I wouldn't be surprised if this was absolutely true.

Yeah. It is something I have heard before. It's something that's been very much anecdotal so I've never really known what to make of it. I have heard stories of organised child prostitution and pornography connected in some way to members of elite society.

The Marc Dutroux case comes to mind. A very strange case that had possible connections with the police and politicians.

There was widespread anger and frustration among Belgians due to police errors and the general slowness of the investigation. This anger culminated when the popular investigative judge in charge of the case was dismissed after having participated in a fund-raising dinner by the girls' parents. His dismissal resulted in a massive protest march (the "White March") of 300,000 people on the capital, Brussels, in October 1996, two months after Dutroux's arrest, in which demands were made for reforms of Belgium's police and justice system.
On the witness stand, Jean-Marc Connerotte, the original judge of the case, broke down in tears when he described "the bullet-proof vehicles and armed guards needed to protect him against the shadowy figures determined to stop the full truth coming out. Never before in Belgium has an investigating judge at the service of the king been subjected to such pressure. We were told by police that [murder] contracts had been taken out against the magistrates." Connerotte testified that the investigation was seriously hampered by protection of suspects by people in the government. "Rarely has so much energy been spent opposing an inquiry," he said. He believed that the Mafia had taken control of the case

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marc_Dutroux
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_March

Also, I remember various allegations made about the dunblane massacre of a high level cover up. Again these accounts focus around organised child prostitution and pornography within the elite.

Two books - Dunblane: Our Year of Tears by Peter Samson and Alan Crow (Mainstream, 1996) and Dunblane: Never Forget by Mick North (Mainstream, 2000) - both give accounts of the massacre from the perspective of those most directly affected. Another book, Dunblane Unburied by Sandra Uttley (Book Publishing World 2006), whose publication was funded by a shooters' organisation, the Sportsman's Association,[14] examines Hamilton's relationship with members of Central Scotland Police and presents a disturbing alternative account to the events leading up to the massacre. Uttley alleges a major high-level cover-up and calls for a new Public Inquiry to establish the truth. On 1 March 2006 Creation Books released Predicate: The Dunblane Massacre — Ten Years After by Peter Sotos.[15]

 

[tiff]

You guys are all terrible. The entire "omg xxxx-age are all pedos" thing is really old. Stop derailing threads with this bullshit or I'll start doing something about it.

Thank god.

I think he's defending pedos who were born with that mentality, but don't act on it in any way

although most would argue no one is ever born a pedo

Either way, given the current "KILL EVERY PEDO, BURN THEM ALIVE" climate in the West I'd highly doubt anyone would consciously choose to be attracted to prepubescents. Why would anyone willingly place themselves in probably the most hated minority there is?

I know I don't remember ever deciding "Hey, I'm going to be attracted to girls between this age range now."

 

[AVclub]

People need to stop throwing the word "pedophile" around because it distorts the actual definition. Seeing a photos of a teenage girl and finding it attractive is not pedophilia. Waiting for a 17 year old girl to turn 18 isn't either. I'm not condoning those activities, just saying they don't fall under the definition.

http://members.shaw.ca/pdg/pedophilia_is_defined.html

Pedophilia is defined as:

Over a period of at least six months, recurrent intense sexual urges and sexually arousing fantasies involving sexual activity with a prepubescent child or children (generally age 13 or younger).
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Pedophilia is - Most adults who sexually molest children are considered to have pedophilia, a mental disorder described by the American Psychiatric Association's, Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders Fourth Edition (DSM-IV). An adult who engages in sexual activity with a child is performing a criminal and immoral act which never can be considered normal or socially acceptable behavior.

Pedophilia is categorized in the DSM-IV as one of the several paraphilia mental disorders. The essential features of paraphilia ("sexual deviation") are recurrent, intense sexually arousing fantasies, sexual urges, or behaviors that generally involve nonhuman subjects, the suffering or humiliation of oneself or one's partner, or children or other non-consenting persons.

 

[Steve Youngblood]

By choice. Even discounting rape and statutory rape, waiting until 18 has to be uncommon? I was a late bloomer as a teen because it wasn't until 17 I lost mine (that being in a country where the legal age is 16).

Oh, I wasn't even talking about rape or statutory rape. I was mainly just alluding to the fact that, although the social climate might suggest that few will choose to romanticize virginity in this day and age, there's probably not an insignificant portion of the population that retains their virginity not by choice, but by lack of opportunity.

 

[Benutzer]

Rich Cronin's stories about him on the Stern show were so fucking funny, very creepy but the part where he tells the group "You guys gotta do me a big favor...." killed me.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cahs0_CthVI

wow this interview is amazing. part 3 is great

 

[Spokker]

People need to stop throwing the word "pedophile" around because it distorts the actual definition. Seeing a photos of a teenage girl and finding it attractive is not pedophilia. Waiting for a 17 year old girl to turn 18 isn't either. I'm not condoning those activities, just saying they don't fall under the definition.

Most of it seems like teasing. "17-year-old actress is cute." *posts Chris Hansen macro*

It's all in good fun.

 

[Suairyu]

Oh, I wasn't even talking about rape or statutory rape. I was mainly just alluding to the fact that, although the social climate might suggest that few will choose to romanticize virginity in this day and age, there's probably not an insignificant portion of the population that retains their virginity not by choice, but by lack of opportunity.

Absolutely, but look at her. She has every opportunity. It was that G-Fex felt the need to express that she wouldn't be a virgin for long like anyone would expect anything else. I was confused as to his meaning.

 

[C.Dark.DN]

People need to stop throwing the word "pedophile" around because it distorts the actual definition. Seeing a photos of a teenage girl and finding it attractive is not pedophilia. Waiting for a 17 year old girl to turn 18 isn't either. I'm not condoning those activities, just saying they don't fall under the definition.

http://members.shaw.ca/pdg/pedophilia_is_defined.html

Don't imply with your second bolding that only people who molest children are pedophiles.

That website references:

http://www.psych.org/MainMenu/Newsr...ewsReleases/diagnosticcriteriapedophilia.aspx
The American Psychiatric Association Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders,
Fourth Edition Text Revision (DSM-IV-TR) criteria for Pedophilia (302.2) are:
A. Over a period of at least 6 months, recurrent, intense sexually arousing fantasies, sexual
urges, or behaviors involving sexual activity with a prepubescent child or children
(generally age 13 years or younger);
B. The person has acted on these sexual urges, or the sexual urges or fantasies cause marked
distress or interpersonal difficulty;
C. The person is at least age 16 years and at least 5 years older than the child or children in
Criterion A.

 

[Crumpet Trumpet]

Not really that surprised. I bet this happens in the music industry; I remember hearing some stories about the Backstreet Boys + that Lou Pearlman guy.

 

[rvy]

she looks like a midget. the proportions in her face are all wrong.

I've been saying this for years now!

 

[EatChildren]

I've lost count of the amount of people I've spoken to who have said that there is a frighteningly significant pedophilic precense in the Australian film industry.

 

[Pein]

This guy will find all of them in Hollywood

http://vimeo.com/22012020

who voiced the yellow dinosaur? His voice sounds familiar.

 

[AVclub]

Don't imply with your second bolding that only people who molest children are pedophiles.

I didn't imply any such thing. However, I will point out that thought crimes are still not punishable by law in this country. Humans still have the right to think whatever they want regardless of how morally reprehensible you may think it is. So until a pedophile acts on his urges in some illegal way, and is proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt, they shouldn't be persecuted.

 

[G-Fex]

Absolutely, but look at her. She has every opportunity. It was that G-Fex felt the need to express that she wouldn't be a virgin for long like anyone would expect anything else. I was confused as to his meaning.

I didn't want to outright call her a slut.

I guess I will now though.

 

[Suairyu]

I didn't want to outright call her a slut.

I guess I will now though.

Losing your virginity before the state-mandated age of consent makes you a slut? That's even more confusing than your original post.

 

[C.Dark.DN]

I didn't imply any such thing. However, I will point out that thought crimes are still not punishable by law in this country. Humans still have the right to think whatever they want regardless of how morally reprehensible you may think it is. So until a pedophile acts on his urges in some illegal way, and is proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt, they shouldn't be persecuted.

Who said they legal action should be taken against thought?

But I'm sorry if you're sensitive/offended about by people insulting/scolding those with the thoughts.

If an atheist or christian can insult each other all day on forums for thoughts/beliefs, we can tell pedophiles of all degrees they are sick fucks. We are glad they haven't acted on it, but never the less.

I don't mean people on neogaf should go around assuming and accusing each other or sub communities. Which has already been nipped in the bud by a mod in this thread.

 

[Sennorin]

Either way, given the current "KILL EVERY PEDO, BURN THEM ALIVE" climate in the West I'd highly doubt anyone would consciously choose to be attracted to prepubescents. Why would anyone willingly place themselves in probably the most hated minority there is?

I know I don't remember ever deciding "Hey, I'm going to be attracted to girls between this age range now."

Which is why pedophiles aren´t "willingly placing themselves" there. They are what they are, they didn´t decide that. And that current climate is why you won´t ever hear of the vast majority of "good" pedophiles, who don´t act on their urges. You´ll only hear about the bad ones, those that commit crimes. It´s disgusting how our society has created this environment in which a minority *can* only be represented by its negative examples, but never be its positive ones.

 

[G-Fex]

Losing your virginity before the state-mandated age of consent makes you a slut? That's even more confusing than your original post.

But the craziest thing is that usually I don't personally attack celebs, I usually just say how much I hate him or her. I'm usually very nice about it. Everyone on gaf will tell you I'm usually very kind.

Isn't that right?

 

[Wiseblade]

But the craziest thing is that usually I don't personally attack celebs, I usually just say how much I hate him or her. I'm usually very nice about it. Everyone on gaf will tell you I'm usually very kind.

Isn't that right?

Yeah. Between all the mind crushing, you're really an upstanding fellow.

 

[tiff]

Who said they legal action should be taken against thought?

But I'm sorry if you're sensitive/offended about by people insulting/scolding those with the thoughts.

If an atheist or christian can insult each other all day on forums for thoughts/beliefs, we can tell pedophiles of all degrees they are sick fucks. We are glad they haven't acted on it, but never the less.

I don't mean people on neogaf should go around assuming and accusing each other or sub communities. Which has already been nipped in the bud by a mod in this thread.

Religious beliefs are entirely a choice though. It's more akin to hating people with Down's Syndrome.

 

[HammerOfThor]

Kinda makes me wonder about these two

Who are they?

 

[dudeworld]

Who are they?

it says "Says Scarlett, on the right" so I'm guessing that's scarlett johansson?

 

[G-Fex]

Yeah. Between all the mind crushing, you're really an upstanding fellow.

Right? I am a peace loving fellow.

 

[Plywood]

Who are they?

Scarlett Johansson and the other looks like Jessica Biel.

 

[Zane]

He probably means ephebophilia.

Ephebophilia is just another word for pedophilia, sorry.

 

[Amory]

Who are they?

Jessica Biel, Scarlett Johansson

 

[G-Fex]

Scarlett Johansson and the other looks like Jessica Biel.

Yup, guess they still look like kids now.

 

[R2D4]

Who are they?

edit.

 

[Steve Youngblood]

Either way, given the current "KILL EVERY PEDO, BURN THEM ALIVE" climate in the West I'd highly doubt anyone would consciously choose to be attracted to prepubescents. Why would anyone willingly place themselves in probably the most hated minority there is?

I know I don't remember ever deciding "Hey, I'm going to be attracted to girls between this age range now."

What are you proposing? Would society as a whole benefit from welcoming members who have a predilection towards a heinous, criminal act into the fold openly with open arms so long as they are part of the "good" group who successfully restrains themselves? Mind you, I kind of understand the point: they most certainly didn't choose to be like that, and as such they drew a crappy hand. However, I don't know if I can get behind any soft of progressive movement that encourages that it's okay to be attracted to kids so long as you don't act on it. Maybe hating such individuals is harsh, but tolerance of the preference is hard to get behind.

 

[Darklord]

Ephebophilia is just another word for pedophilia, sorry.

No it's not or there would be a much, much higher number of pedo's out there than you would believe. Ephebophilia is normally between 14-19. Who hasn't seen a hot 15 or 16 year old before? Hell, 16 is legal here.

 

[Plywood]

Yup, guess they still look like kids now.

Indeed.

,

 

[Wiseblade]

Ephebophilia is just another word for pedophilia, sorry.

Wait, what? So if I were to see an attractive 17 year old and say "yeah, she's hot", that would make me a paedophile? That doesn't sound right.

 

[Orayn]

Ephebophilia is just another word for pedophilia, sorry.

Says who? Ephebophilia has a different definition and isn't even in the DSM-IV.

 

[J-Rod]

Perhaps psychopaths who would kill you just to pacify a moment of boredom should paint it as a sexual orientation so they too could have the sympathy of the internet. Or really, anyone who has a base desire that involves harming innocent people. Those poor souls need a defense force too, you know? It's not right that people who don't like the idea of harming others say bad things about those who do want to, especially when it's about getting a nut off.

And I call BS on pedo being tossed around lightly. Every instance of the word there is five more that makes sure to correct it as ephopilia. I'd say it is the opposite, and too many people make it sound like it is perfectly okay to want a girl when she hits first mensus (average age 13). Either I am way too old to be here or I'm a bigger prude than I know, because most 17 and under look and act like kids to me.

 

[charsace]

Indeed.

,

I'm guessing he posted them because he's wondering if they were molested when they first got into hollywood?

 

[Eteric Rice]

No it's not or there would be a much, much higher number of pedo's out there than you would believe. Ephebophilia is normally between 14-19. Who hasn't seen a hot 15 or 16 year old before? Hell, 16 is legal here.

Pretty much this.

It's pretty normal to be attracted to teens. Males are likely attracted to youth due to them typically being the most fertile. Also, humans have always adored youth.

Pedophiles on the other hand, go waaay to far.

 

[Acerac]

What are you proposing? Would society as a whole benefit from welcoming members who have a predilection towards a heinous, criminal act into the fold openly with open arms so long as they are part of the "good" group who successfully restrains themselves? Mind you, I kind of understand the point: they most certainly didn't choose to be like that, and as such they drew a crappy hand. However, I don't know if I can get behind any soft of progressive movement that encourages that it's okay to be attracted to kids so long as you don't act on it. Maybe hating such individuals is harsh, but tolerance of the preference is hard to get behind.

The main thing that bothers me is watching people get spit on for stuff they have no control over. Their attraction is harmful to themselves and those who they're attracted to, but I really have to think that burning the people afflicted with this unfortunate attraction at the stake isn't very... humane?

It's not like these people are choosing to be pedophiles. I just have a very difficult time watching hate on groups that probably dislike their hated characteristics more than those who are angry with them.

Wait, what? So if I were to see an attractive 17 year old and say "yeah, she's hot", that would make me a paedophile? That doesn't sound right.

This is NeoGAF.

 

[DominoKid]

Indeed.

,

damn ScarJo's looking rough.

 

[Harry Dresden]

I have a confession...

I am attracted to women in their early 20's... but I am in my mid 20's....

Oh god GAF... I need help.

 

[Neuromancer]

I have a confession...

I am attracted to women in their early 20's... but I am in my mid 20's....

Oh god GAF... I need help.

May as well just turn yourself in to the authorities now.

 

[Sennorin]

Perhaps psychopaths who would kill you just to pacify a moment of boredom should paint it as a sexual orientation so they too could have the sympathy of the internet. Or really, anyone who has a base desire that involves harming innocent people. Those poor souls need a defense force too, you know? It's not right that people who don't like the idea of harming others say bad things about those who do want to, especially when it's about getting a nut off.

And I call BS on pedo being tossed around lightly. Every instance of the word there is five more that makes sure to correct it as ephopilia. I'd say it is the opposite, and too many people make it sound like it is perfectly okay to want a girl when she hits first mensus (average age 13). Either I am way too old to be here or I'm a bigger prude than I know, because most 17 and under look and act like kids to me.

One of the worse posts in this thread. Do you hate innocent people so much as to compare them to psychopaths and murderers? It´s this disgusting attitude that makes me defend pedophiles. They´re such an easy target because of how society has painted them as these ominous, super dangerous monsters that will destroy your children. Such bullshit! I´d almost bet that everyone of us knows someone that is a pedophile, but that person simply never showed it. Why? See the above posting. "Monster! Beast! Burn it alive!" Why is it so hard to accept that those poor souls exist that never chose what they´re attracted to and, knowing themselves that it is wrong, never acted on their urges? I cannot stress enough how sickening these accusations of "all pedophiles are criminals" are, because that´s really exactly the same as saying "Sennorin, you´re a rapist. Why? Because you´re 25, you never had sex and a normal person cannot live without sex. Thus, you are a criminal. I have no evidence for it, but according to what I believe, it has to be the case". Seriously?

And yes, you´re prude if you think it´s wrong to find certain teenage girls hot. There are enough hot young girls and as long as it´s legal, you can even approach them. It´s only bs-morals that could keep you from it. A politician in Germany had to quit his career today because he was in love with a 16-year old girl. That is legal here, but shitty conservatives in his party demanded his end. God, I hate such stuck up bourgeois that cannot accept other people´s happiness. </rant>

 

[Interfectum]

Bizarre thread.

And I'm sure this shit happens all the time in Hollywood. You got the super famous/rich that have seen and done, literally, everything and the kids/parents who would do anything to be famous/rich. Some backroom deals here, some drugs there, boom... you got a recipe for a cesspool of shit that is Hollywood. No one really cares, not even the victims, as long as they get what they want. Anyone who does care probably gets a nice chunk of change in exchange for silence.

 

[Harry Dresden]

It gets worse...

When my wife and I started dating in high school I was a senior and she was a... sophomore.

 

[Eteric Rice]

My dad is 9 years older than my mom.

What say you, NeoGAF?

 

[freenudemacusers]

My dad is 9 years older than my mom.

What say you, NeoGAF?

Dunno, did he fawn over her when she was 13?

 

[G-Fex]

It gets worse...

When my wife and I started dating in high school I was a senior and she was a... sophomore.

YOURE A BAD MAN!

 

[Acerac]

Perhaps psychopaths who would kill you just to pacify a moment of boredom should paint it as a sexual orientation so they too could have the sympathy of the internet. Or really, anyone who has a base desire that involves harming innocent people. Those poor souls need a defense force too, you know? It's not right that people who don't like the idea of harming others say bad things about those who do want to, especially when it's about getting a nut off.

And I call BS on pedo being tossed around lightly. Every instance of the word there is five more that makes sure to correct it as ephopilia. I'd say it is the opposite, and too many people make it sound like it is perfectly okay to want a girl when she hits first mensus (average age 13). Either I am way too old to be here or I'm a bigger prude than I know, because most 17 and under look and act like kids to me.

Pedophiles have the widespread sympathy on the internet? Whaaaaaa? The only reason I defend them in the first place is because I've not seen a more hated group since some people I used to hang around with started acting absurdly racist. Oh, and the fact that it is really popular to call the MLP fandom pedos on these boards. Thanks to the mods for finally doing something about that.

As for the second part of your post, it is laughable at best. You have very selective reading if you believe this to be the case.

 

[Plywood]

I'm guessing he posted them because he's wondering if they were molested when they first got into hollywood?

Oh we could definitely speculate on that, Natalie Portman in Leon for example.

 

[Eteric Rice]

Dunno, did he fawn over her when she was 13?

Nope, when she was in her later teens.