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Corey Feldman: Biggest problem in Hollywood is pedophilia
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Harry Dresden
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Eteric Rice said:
Sorry, it appears you are the spawn of perversion. Nothing you can do about it now but go into exile or ritual suicide.
Night_Trekker
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I'm never surprised to see more evidence that men are genetically programmed to find post-pubescent women sexually attractive. (Because I doubt he means true pedophilia. Probably hebephilia or ephebophilia.) Not that that makes the age disparity okay.
Though pedophilia being rampant in Hollywood wouldn't surprise me at all. Take a town full of people who think they walk on water (because we make them feel that way) and have a ton of cash/power, and things that wouldn't be allowed in normal society will probably happen as everyone else looks the other way.
Though pedophilia being rampant in Hollywood wouldn't surprise me at all. Take a town full of people who think they walk on water (because we make them feel that way) and have a ton of cash/power, and things that wouldn't be allowed in normal society will probably happen as everyone else looks the other way.
Acerac
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That's cool, I don't want them near me either. Nor do I want Nascar fans near me, or many other people who I consider weird.daycru said:
That being said if they're not harming anyone perhaps we (GAF as a whole) could stop with the unmitigated hate of a group that probably dislikes the fact that they're pedophiles more than any of us do?
Paedofinder general is so good!
Interfectum
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Night_Trekker said:
"I don't care who got fucked where and how many times, as long as <insert movie here> is good, we're okay. That's the price for being rich and famous anyway, right?" - average movie goer
SlipperySlope
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X26 said:
That's a very interesting debate. Although I personally think it is some kind of environmental factor, or something that happened after they were born.
teruterubozu
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So Catholics have a better chance in Hollywood?
freenudemacusers
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Truly a koan of our age.DanteFox said:
freenudemacusers
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This is too vague, give us some dirt/info.Novid said:
Count Dookkake
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Novid said:
Uncontrollable boner?
Steve Youngblood
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Should we encourage those afflicted to step forward and tell their story so that we might shower them with our support? I just can't picture the "good" ones who don't act on their desire really wanting to step forth and be recognized. As such, I think it's largely understood that, even if the language employed betrays intent, when people talk of pedophiles as loathsome individuals, we're talking about those who act on it implicitly. After all, it's difficult to truly hate an unknown quantity even if we claim to do so in principle.Acerac said:
Night_Trekker
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Interfectum said:
I think the average movie goer is deeply concerned about the prevalence of "rape-rape" in Hollywood.
Sqorgar said:
That is exactly what I criticized. A positive example would be a pedophile who admits his attraction, acknowledges that it is wrong act on it within our society and therefore keeps it all to his fantasy. Someone like this, and I´d guess most pedophiles are like that, isn´t a monster or a danger at all. But again, such people have no chance to provide a positive example because *we* don´t let them. The moment someone would come out and say "I´m pedophile and I hope to show you that I´m not a bad person", *we* would demonize that person and the forks would be lifted and the fires be flamed.
Steve Youngblood
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Should we as a society encourage them to step forward?Sennorin said:
I'm not necessarily suggesting that we shouldn't acknowledge that people cursed with the affliction of simultaneously being attracted towards a group that they legally and morally obligated not to pursue were dealt a shitty hand. However, I'm at a loss on what to do about that really. As such, going out of one's way to defend this group of closeted individuals who long for that which they can't pursue almost seems like it's being tolerant just for the sake of being tolerant.
"You're pro gay-marriage, anti-racism, and anti-misogyny? Nice try, novice, but I go even further than that. You know those pedophiles everyone hates and fears so much? Well, I'm able to astutely conclude that the attraction itself isn't something they can control, so as long as they don't act on it, I'm cool with it. You know, because I'm so tolerant."
Big Chungus
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He's been with Nickelodeon for a long time, maybe he just likes to create content for kids.Vibri said:
Here he is in the Good Burger film: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZvfQGkOKUc#t=5m40s
I'm still not following. If someone has a sexual attraction to children, but does not act upon it, how is that something worth sharing with others? If he doesn't act on those desires, it isn't illegal. But the fantasies he has are repulsive. Those should be kept private, and this person should seek help (in private). Going public with the fact that you masturbated to your neighbor's eight year old daughter isn't really going to be a positive influence on anybody, as far as I can tell.Sennorin said:
Acerac
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Yes, giving support to people who have things wrong with the way their mind works would be an excellent idea.Steve Youngblood said:
No need to recognize them for stepping forward, of course that would be counterintuitive, but helping them deal with their malady would both benefit them and society as a whole.
About your last point, the amount of time the term "fag" gets thrown around in the world makes it very difficult to agree with. People can hate with little logic involved. While you yourself may be logical enough to not fall to this trap, it is more than common from the populace as a whole.
Though perhaps my classmates in 4th grade knew I'd end up gay. Very perceptive bullies they were. I'd quote Martin Prince but that'd be admitting I found some value in Simpsons past the golden age.
Dork Knight
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fna84 said:
He's also the fat, awkward kid in Better Off Dead. Weird, eh?
Acerac
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Tolerant for the sake of being tolerant? Yeah, that sounds a lot like me. Less so because of the joke you posted afterwards, and more that I'm sick of watching hate directed at people who can't change the situation they're in. You think these people want to be pedophiles?Steve Youngblood said:
Perhaps it is because I received so much hate when I was young that I'm like this, so it is tolerance for selfish reasons. It pisses me off whenever I see it no matter who it is directed at. I've gone off on more than one friend who attacks people from the middle east due to imagined associations with terrorists. In my eyes this is no different.
That being said, tolerance for tolerance's sake doesn't seem like as bad of a thing as you are making it out to be. I think the world would be a lot more pleasant if less hate was directed at groups who were not harming others.
Acerac said:
Yeah, people with disease should be locked up. Put them in jail, throw away the key, right? Why bother right? We should just lock up everyone with mental illness, that would be better, right?
People talk like pedophilia is a choice. Did you choose the kind of person you would be attracted to?
Sure, some are asshole that should be locked up and even put to death but most are normal people that struggle with shit they didn't choose.
Steve Youngblood
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First of all, I think hating homosexuals is stupid and illogical, and makes absolutely no sense to me. As an extension of that, I don't like it when people throw pejorative terms like 'fag' out as a means of spreading towards a group of people that are just living their life causing them no harm.Acerac said:
However, I will say though that though I don't find their hatred founded or tolerable, it is a hatred towards actual people. Meaning, they use the pejorative towards people that either are gay, or people who think are gay. Even if they call out closeted individuals specifically, it makes little sense. You're calling out an unknown quantity. You're calling out people you don't even know about, then.
PflargBlarg
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J-Rod said:
You are a goddamn moron. The whole point of this was being against the rampant hate of pedophiles, even if they never have and never will act on it. If there's a guy who is mentally ill and it causes him to have murderous urges that he has to struggle against his whole life, then yeah, I feel horrible for that guy. Would you want to live with that in your mind?
I'm sure there are many people who have various urges that, if they were publicly known, would ruin them. If they can control it then there is no reason to hate them.
What does it being okay or not okay mean? We're not talking preventable actions here as far as I'm concerned. No one has a choice in becoming a pedophile, so what's the purpose of assigning any kind of moral value to the attraction? You can tell someone the way their brain is hard-wired is wrong, but if that had any real effect then I would think that this whole issue wouldn't be nearly as widespread as it is. It all seems pretty pointless to me.Steve Youngblood said:
weekend_warrior
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Novid said:
Stealth brag post?
Acerac
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I see your meaning.Steve Youngblood said:
Perhaps a better example to use would be comparing it to those who say that they hate middle easterners solely due to terrorism. Is everyone from the middle east a terrorist? No. Is every pedophile going to endanger children? No.
Unlike you, most of the people don't care when they make this generalization. I'd be less annoyed if their insults didn't cover many of people to which the hate is unwarranted.
Apologies, I'd type more on the subject but I am late for work. >_<
Steve Youngblood
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This is the kind of sentiment to me that is intellectually sound, but as far as being applicable to real world belief and ideology is fairly useless. Meaning, if this were Philosophy 101, I'm sure you could blow my mind expounding further. However, as far as this being the real world and applying it towards real individuals, I don't really know what to take from it.tiff said:
Count Dookkake
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Novid said:
He's making the same joke I did but with different wording.
Sqorgar said:
The point is, someone shouldn´t be declared a monster or whatever for the fantasies he has. But that´s the problem: All those "positive" pedophiles have to live in fear, because they know: *If* someone finds out about their attraction (be it because of a weird wording, a strange hobby like collecting certain figurines, or whatever, doesn´t even have to make sense in the context of pedophilia), they´re ruined, they´re forever marked as monsters. I don´t have to be part of this minority to be able to imagine how horrible such a life has to be. In conclusion, if we hear about someone being pedophile, our first thought shouldn´t be "I hope he dies", but "poor soul". That´s because the association should be along the lines of pedophiles being forced to be asexual beings, instead of child raping monsters. If you want to argue that, I have to assume that, again, I am a rapist.
@Steve Youngblood: The "I´m at a loss as to what to do in reality" is exactly what this propaganda against pedophiles has done to us. We don´t know. The media and conservatives have taught us that such people are bad and are best dead. But since you and me are smart, ethical beings, we know that cannot be right. But that doesn´t enlighten us in terms of what to do *instead*. Ideally, see above, we would treat them like every other person. I´m not raping girls when I see the chance, just like pedophiles wouldn´t rape children when they see a chance. However, I realize that this would an impossible task to our current world. People wouldn´t accept that. Which is why we have to start little by little by having discussions such as this one here, where we talk about what´s right and what´s wrong, and maybe, just maybe this will spread and start a change somewhere and sometime. You know, I´m naive in many ways, but I´m also hopeful that ignorance will always lose in the long term.
Professor Beef
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Then it would be a very small reason.Count Dookkake said:
Kim Kardashian was not fourteen in that photo! I won't believe that, because if I do, I'll have some very, very conflicted feelings, and that...would make me sad.
Though, I think she's one of the except...oh. Forget what I just said, just forget it. I'm going to go under that rock over there. Damn.
Though, I think she's one of the except...oh. Forget what I just said, just forget it. I'm going to go under that rock over there. Damn.
Steve Youngblood
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In the role-playing with a willing partner sense, or the "I strongly desire having sex with women against their will" sense? The former seems odd to me, but is by definition not rape and a poor facsimile of what society finds deplorable about rape. The latter I would certainly find worrisome.tiff said:
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