Yeah, this would be more than a bit weird. The other options are PC-ifying a prominent NPC from the campaign for the purpose of the final arc. Or just playing Taryon, but that would be even weirder.
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Critical Role: Voice Actors Playing D&D
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Yeah, this would be more than a bit weird. The other options are PC-ifying a prominent NPC from the campaign for the purpose of the final arc. Or just playing Taryon, but that would be even weirder.
Even Liam playing one of Matt's NPCs would be weird.
I'm guessing he'll come back as a revenant at this point.
Pilgrimzero
Member
This is what I bet on. He gets to keep going but his time is limited. Plus they all get their good byes.
Zod the Bear
Member
I think there'll end up being a weighted choice between revenant against a story beat for True Res. So probably back quickly and on Vecna's tail, or let Vecna proceed with his plans while they go after Vax.
That's probably the best way of handling it.
It would even offer the opportunity to reroll if Liam wanted to try something else, like going full Paladin.
HP_Wuvcraft
Banned
Pretty much. Last ep was the most invested in the game that I've ever seen her.
It would be interesting to come back as a pure paladin a la Final Fantasy IV. Though they would literally never get through doors if that were the case.
I'm going to be a bit disappointed if they just cast true resurrection next episode, he comes back the same as he was, and that's it. I have to imagine Matt and Liam have something more interesting planned than that.
I wonder if they'll waste 25,000 gold (in diamonds) on a spell that has no chance of working because RQ has other plans. I don't know if Laura/Vex can take two big losses back to back like that.
Henchmen21
Banned
Did you see last nights Talks? Matt talked about his feelings on the spell
He seemed to be suitably vague to me. As in describing the power of and how the spell works in general without bringing up any of the specific factors of the one about to be attempted.
I have to imagine he said "we're going to have a conversation" at the end of last week's episode for more of a reason than them needing a lot of money.
Jest Chillin
Member
I doubt Matt would let them blow 25k in diamonds (which would have to be acquired which in itself would be no easy feat in his world) and THEN tell them "lol no Raven Queen says otherwise"
Matt isn't a dick DM. If he's not going to allow it he'll either straight up tell them it's not happening before they do it or he'll give them plenty of context clues to dissuade them from that path.
Given that he's not shooting down the spell entirely (remember, he will openly call out broken spells) it means the spell itself, should work within his world. Vax's soul not being free, would likely be played out in a similar manner as ressurection rituals are.. with the group having to essentially convince the Raven Queen that her interests are better served with him alive. Shouldn't be too hard to pitch it and would honestly be better than Revenant for a number of reasons.
Matt isn't a dick DM. If he's not going to allow it he'll either straight up tell them it's not happening before they do it or he'll give them plenty of context clues to dissuade them from that path.
Given that he's not shooting down the spell entirely (remember, he will openly call out broken spells) it means the spell itself, should work within his world. Vax's soul not being free, would likely be played out in a similar manner as ressurection rituals are.. with the group having to essentially convince the Raven Queen that her interests are better served with him alive. Shouldn't be too hard to pitch it and would honestly be better than Revenant for a number of reasons.
I don't think Matt would actually make them waste that much money, I was just joking.
I do sense that he isn't too fond of true resurrection RAW, and will make them do something cool in addition to the spell.
HP_Wuvcraft
Banned
I missed it. What happened?
He said it's a 9th level spell so it bypasses the homebrew ritual that they've had to do in past resurrections. He emphasized that they needed 25,000 gold worth of diamonds, in order to let them know they couldn't just mark off 25k from party funds.
Then they talked a bit about the morality of a spell that allows you to resurrect anybody you want who has died within the last 200 years and the implications of doing something like that. Keyleth has never cast a resurrection spell and has left it to Pike because she's felt it wasn't her place as a druid to do necromancy like that, but now it's her boyfriend so that changes things.
PeskyToaster
Member
The spell does specifically say "If the creature's soul is free and willing". I don't think his soul is entirely free.
Oh damn I guess we already talked about that. My bad. I've only caught glimpses of the latest episodes and Talks. Just mostly Twitter. I'm still catching up but spoilers don't bother me. They just fuel my anticipation.
On a sort of related note: My group of all first time/inexperienced (from the most casual of casual games) players has had a character creation session and on Sunday we're starting our first adventure. I really wish the PHB had some example completed character sheets so we could see what information is good to include. Like how should I lay out class features and other things. I found some online which helped. My friend is pretty creative so he's crafted a world for us to explore and has some adventure ideas. He loves Bloodborne so I'm expecting some eldritch fuckery at some point. We got a halfing bard, wood elf ranger, tiefling warlock, high elf druid, and human paladin (me).
Oh damn I guess we already talked about that. My bad. I've only caught glimpses of the latest episodes and Talks. Just mostly Twitter. I'm still catching up but spoilers don't bother me. They just fuel my anticipation.
On a sort of related note: My group of all first time/inexperienced (from the most casual of casual games) players has had a character creation session and on Sunday we're starting our first adventure. I really wish the PHB had some example completed character sheets so we could see what information is good to include. Like how should I lay out class features and other things. I found some online which helped. My friend is pretty creative so he's crafted a world for us to explore and has some adventure ideas. He loves Bloodborne so I'm expecting some eldritch fuckery at some point. We got a halfing bard, wood elf ranger, tiefling warlock, high elf druid, and human paladin (me).
Henchmen21
Banned
WOTC has some completed character sheets on their site
That new David Mack poster is kind of wack. For some reason there's like... no composition?
https://shop.geekandsundry.com/collections/critical-role/products/critical-role-100th-ep-anniversary-david-mack-art-print
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HP_Wuvcraft
Banned
My mom just found out about Critical Role (and that it runs 3-5 hours and that it's on episode 105), and gave me the biggest look of disgust.
You can say.... she was a bit critical.
You can say.... she was a bit critical.
Henchmen21
Banned
This is episode 103 though
I would be critical too if you were talking about seeing the future.
Zod the Bear
Member
Well, I was wrong.
HP_Wuvcraft
Banned
I love it when Matt gives his recaps but breaks cause the group did something totally unexpected.
Like the earthquake.
Like the earthquake.
Henchmen21
Banned
Man those other shows that they show ads for during the break always come off as fake & forced. There's a reason no one watches anything else on G&S but Critrole.
Yeah, I've tried watching a few of them. They're brutal.
HP_Wuvcraft
Banned
The other RPG shows, Vast and ForeverVerse, are actually quality.
Probably two to five episodes will be the finale of s1, and s2 will probably start in earnest next year, possibly right before or after SDCC for maximum exposure.
Rockin' Ranger
Member
"The Moon Weaver, a god I've heard of once so will now pledge my eternal allegiance to."
I always love Scanlan's take on the group's plans.
That and using Vax's death as an excuse to finally get rid of Trinket.
I'd been watching on YouTube lately so had been skipping the ad breaks, first time seeing them in a while and that was painful to sit through.
I always mute them and watch something else (like the first 20 minutes of Critical Role ep. 97:
Keyleth's cliff adventure
Haven't watched Vast, but Foreververse is OK at best. Amy Vorpahl is good, but the rest of the cast leaves me flat. Titans Grave and Tabletop are solid too, I suppose. But there's a lot of real sketchy stuff on the channel.
Alpha Centauri
Member
Well they were 1 turn and Scanlan's ingenuity away from a confirmed Total Party Kill.
Regardless, this is the last arc. Short of them all dying somehow, anywhere up to 20 more episodes. We really don't know. Briarwood arc was long, as was the Chroma Conclave.
HP_Wuvcraft
Banned
YAS.
The Lord of the Quaddroads comes back into play.
Emergent gameplay.
The Lord of the Quaddroads comes back into play.
Emergent gameplay.
Henchmen21
Banned
Vax is now an evil-seeking bloodhound
Henchmen21
Banned
Yay Pike is lvl.17! (lol typo in the character sheet. "Yar" domain?)
Good. I have already created a head canon for their new characters
Grog's player becomes a extremely stubborn dragonborn paladin- but he's really racist in the sense that he thinks dragonborn are just so much better than all other races and feels the need to protect/intervene in everyone elses affairs because its "the right thing to do"
Vax's player becomes a halfling transmuter wizard who is rather thrifty and materialistic and likes to mess with stuff just to see what happens
Vex's player becomes an assimar monk with a full on bittersweet revenge plot and walks the path of an assasin
Pike's player becomes an elven eldtrich knight who looks for fame and prestidge through cunning and warfare
Percy's player can be a sorcerer, maybe wild magic or something like that; less broody and more bubbly
Kelith's player can be any human nonspell casting class k thx
Scanlan's player can be anything because I'm pretty sure he'd knock it out of the park as a level 1 NPC pesant.
And then they need to find someone else to GM because Matt deserves to play.
And then idk, spelljammer or something.
That's assuming that they have the same cast. Starting new characters would be a good opportunity for them to invite other actors who might be interested to try out Critical Role, and some of the current cast (Ashley Johnson(Pike) in particular) might/do have acting jobs coming up that would mean that they couldn't attend Critical Role for a few months to a year.
I kind of hope Matt stays as DM, he's pretty fantastic as a character, but nobody I have seen (in Critical Role or any other G&S DnD stream) has been close to the level of DMing that Matt brings to the table.
Aside from the quirky voices, what does Matt bring to the table that other DMs don't?
HP_Wuvcraft
Banned
..... oh man.
They barely missed missing the apocalypse.
The look on Matt's face as he realized he may have to trash his entire night's campaign work and improv it.
They barely missed missing the apocalypse.
The look on Matt's face as he realized he may have to trash his entire night's campaign work and improv it.
Henchmen21
Banned
What? I dare you to find a better world builder & scenery crafter than Matt. There's a reason he's top 5 dm's out there
It might be that I have gotten used to Matt's style after 300+ hours of Critical Role, but it feels like a lot of the other DMs that I see on G&S aren't very good at coming up with things on the fly and railroad their players a bit more, which kind of brings down the experience for me. Matt seems to have something prepared no matter which direction the players decide to go, and generally gives them some possibility of success in just about any scenario.
Also, the whole voices thing is a huge part of it for me in terms of getting into the story.
Alpha Centauri
Member
Compelling storytelling that captivates (as of this post) 26k+ people on twitch. There are great DMs, but you have to have the charisma, storytelling ability, and improv experience to make this thing work.
For me, Matt is the singular point that makes the entire show work. If Matt left Critical Role, I wouldn't watch anymore.
Rockin' Ranger
Member
Really want the Lord of the Crossroads to give Grog a wish and have Grog wish for Craven Edge back.