KZObsessed
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TTP said:till now...
NOOOOOOO!! Don't be taking ma Betas Sony. ;_;
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Cross game voice chat rumored for Ps3 PSN+
- Thread starter MMaRsu
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NOOOOOOO!! Don't be taking ma Betas Sony. ;_;
MoonsaultSlayer
Member
I would have paid for cloud saving and if cross game chat were free. But since neither seem to be true: Fuck this shit, Sony.
Meus Renaissance
Member
-DarKaoZ- said:
You can 'Chat' for free but you need to be a Gold member to do Party Chat (group of 8 people)
NullPointer
Member
Most of it does (messaging and comparing achievements via the website) but I included the other stuff just to bewilder and confuse people. Seriously though, it also falls into the larger point that Xbox Live on the whole is a better experience overall than PSN, and even PSN+ based upon what little we know.Yeef said:
PSN having free online play was an awesome way to go, I applaud Sony for it, and MS are assholes for not seeing the light on that end. I'd just like Sony to seal the deal with free cross-game chat. IF that existed I would have little problem shifting from Xbox to PS3 (I've had two xboxes die on me already). As it stands right now I'm not going to get cross-game chat because between me and my circle of PS3 friends we don't have enough multiplayer titles to make a subscription worthwhile.
So, in short - it sounds like this might be a great deal for some, just not for me, and that sucks.
carpediemdp
Member
For me it seems as if they are still deciding wether to include X game chat with PSN+ or for free. This point was already taken off from all playstation websites who had it, and it's not even included in the Playstation Plus press release.
What boggles my mind is why the hell joystiq didn't put a source, haven't updated their post by saying what they saw or followed the goddamn press release (to which i'm sure they have access) and are creating this clusterfuck. At this point we only have confirmation that cross game chat is goming, but we don't know if it will be included with PSN+.
What boggles my mind is why the hell joystiq didn't put a source, haven't updated their post by saying what they saw or followed the goddamn press release (to which i'm sure they have access) and are creating this clusterfuck. At this point we only have confirmation that cross game chat is goming, but we don't know if it will be included with PSN+.
zerokoolpsx
Member
Yes!~Devil Trigger~ said:
Kabuki Waq
Member
bitch move by Sony.
AmericanNinja
Banned
will subscribe.
fortified_concept
Banned
soco said:
No, you pay to play online which is leagues worse.
fortified_concept
Banned
Guardian Bob said:
-DarKaoZ- said:
Yeah, my post was confusing. I meant I'm still not gonna pay for online no matter how much Sony is trying to tempt me. I'm sticking with the free version of PSN no matter what.
carpediemdp
Member
alr1ghtstart said:
I'm starting to feel the same way.
NullPointer
Member
alr1ghtstart said:
Forearm Star
Member
You want cross game chat.. you got it! :lol
Glad I don't give a shit.. Wanna talk to me about some shit and arent in the same game as me.. I'll just use a cell phone.
As long as online play is still free, i'm just as happy with the psn as I was yesterday..
Glad I don't give a shit.. Wanna talk to me about some shit and arent in the same game as me.. I'll just use a cell phone.
As long as online play is still free, i'm just as happy with the psn as I was yesterday..
Patriotsbball5460
Member
So this turned out to be fake? If so, I figured, it seemed like too big of a thing to not announce at the conference itself
NullPointer
Member
You know, some of those friends are, get this, actual fucking friends in real life - meatspace, whatever you want to call it. The idea of chatting with em across games, NetFlixx, dashboard downloads, etc. while seeing if anybody wants to group up, or waiting for everybody to get their shit together - its a good thing. A great thing actually.DeadGzuz said:
Thats how it usually goes on my xbox. I sign in, and usually seconds later get a party invite, and we either end up catching up, or getting a team together for some Borderlands, or Left 4 Dead, or GRAW2, MW2, etc. etc. etc. Sometimes we just talk for a bit and go into separate parties or sign out for the night. Whatever.
Its also about 1000% easier than dealing with a cellphone or typing a text with a controller. Every single hassle to casual play is removed, entirely. And once you're used to it, there is no going back.
Whipped Spartan
Member
Here you go gaf, This is the breakdown for silver and gold on XBL:
http://www.xbox.com/en-US/live/joinlive.htm
They look pretty similar except the chat for 1 to 1 cross game is free on XBL.
http://www.xbox.com/en-US/live/joinlive.htm
They look pretty similar except the chat for 1 to 1 cross game is free on XBL.
davepoobond said:
MMaRsu said:You can't use cross game voice chat when you have silver? This is news to me ( though I've never had silver
exactly.
Not sure why people are so shocked about this.
Whipped Spartan said:
this changed actually, when parties was introduced 1-1 became free
When Jack announced PSN+ at E3 I expected Voice chat (parties, messages etc) to be the first thing to mentioned on the list, it's so damn obvious, but I was surprised to see it didn't get mentioned at all. If they're gonna have a paid service, they at least have to match the basic features of the competitors like voice chat/messages/parties, all of the early excess demos and other bullshit is only secondary to that.
Dammit Sony.
Dammit Sony.
ShinobiFist
Banned
360-GOLD&SILVER have Xgame chat, but MP is GOLD members only.
PS3-PSN+&PSN Vanilla have MP for free, but PSN+ gets Xgame chat.....
Which setup plan you rather have GAF?
PS3-PSN+&PSN Vanilla have MP for free, but PSN+ gets Xgame chat.....
Which setup plan you rather have GAF?
badcrumble
Member
I don't care about automatic downloads as long as there's some way of automatically checking for patches on all games without having to try to start them up. I'm fine with doing that once a week and with doing firmware updates manually, and I'm totally happy with getting my own Store content myself. I just don't want to have to pay for cross-game voice chat, nor do I want others to have to, and I say this as someone who's fairly likely to get this if the discounts look good.
Kinda hoping 3.40 brings us a Netflix app.
Kinda hoping 3.40 brings us a Netflix app.
Infinite Justice
Member
I guess they are still torn on what to do with the feature (put it in PSN+ as the dangling carrot or make it free and hope to find something else).
If those are the features it will be disappointing due to the others not being there (cloud saves, token stuff, etc).
Guess we'll see what they will do on the 22nd and the 29th
If those are the features it will be disappointing due to the others not being there (cloud saves, token stuff, etc).
Guess we'll see what they will do on the 22nd and the 29th
CadetMahoney
Member
I thought they removed any mention of voice chat in the ads. Or has it been confirmed as one of the features now.ShinobiFist said:
OldJadedGamer
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g35twinturbo said:
1-1 was free from day one with a silver account... almost 5 years ago.
magicaltrevor
Banned
There's a trailer up on the EU.Blog as well, and it doesn't mention cross-game voicechat in it...
Now, by the looks of it, the video wasn't edited last-minute (you can tell, because the timing of the music isn't weird). I guess they've either pulled it for a while because there are still some bugs left, or they've changed their minds about making it a paid feature and will release it free with the next FW-update as a surprise.
What do you guys think? Or, if you know more, give us a hint...
Now, by the looks of it, the video wasn't edited last-minute (you can tell, because the timing of the music isn't weird). I guess they've either pulled it for a while because there are still some bugs left, or they've changed their minds about making it a paid feature and will release it free with the next FW-update as a surprise.
What do you guys think? Or, if you know more, give us a hint...
Eliciel
Member
What I found strange about PSN+ was that no matter what Jack Tretton was mentioning I was not hyped at all like PSN minis, classics...
So what?! I am playstation fan since the PSX and I already have nearly every good game on PSX and PS2 why should I download any of these? Graphics don't matter at all for me in this situation.
So what are the real "privileges" did I miss anything? And no for me Cross-Game-Chat is not worth for paying 50 $ just for that...obviously not because this should be for free
So what?! I am playstation fan since the PSX and I already have nearly every good game on PSX and PS2 why should I download any of these? Graphics don't matter at all for me in this situation.
So what are the real "privileges" did I miss anything? And no for me Cross-Game-Chat is not worth for paying 50 $ just for that...obviously not because this should be for free
Ninja Moomin
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magicaltrevor said:
You know it's pretty easy to change the music on a video your own marketing agency created? Right?
magicaltrevor
Banned
NinjaFusion said:
I know, I'm a video-editor/graphic designer myself...
Look, all I said was that it probably wasn't a last-minute decission to remove it from the (current) PSN Plus features, and that's why it probably hasn't been announced at the conference. Either because it has been delayed, or because it will be free to use for everyone with the next FW-update.
The guys and girls at SCEE just didn't get the memo.
So it's 4P Cross game chat? That's cool I guess. Then shouldn't they make 1-1 free? At least paying members can party chat with non paying members. They should have made it up to 8P.
I see why Sony would want to charge for it. There is not too many appealing things that would get the masses to pay for plus.
Here's a semi-solution, though nobody at Sony would see this or use it.
First make 1 to 1 chat free. if that can't work see option 2.
Give people the option to turn off either cross game party chat or online play after their 3 month trial period is up(or when plus is going to run out). Give a notification that their subscription is about to end. Then ask if they would like to remove cross game chat or online play. The feature is then disabled for every non plus account on that system (just to prevent people from creating new accounts to gain access to online play again).
Though there are plenty of flaws with it. How do you prevent people from logging on to another console? What if they delete thier account? Stuff like that, but it would be awesome if they could please the people who want cross game chat, yet don't play online.
I see why Sony would want to charge for it. There is not too many appealing things that would get the masses to pay for plus.
Here's a semi-solution, though nobody at Sony would see this or use it.
First make 1 to 1 chat free. if that can't work see option 2.
Give people the option to turn off either cross game party chat or online play after their 3 month trial period is up(or when plus is going to run out). Give a notification that their subscription is about to end. Then ask if they would like to remove cross game chat or online play. The feature is then disabled for every non plus account on that system (just to prevent people from creating new accounts to gain access to online play again).
Though there are plenty of flaws with it. How do you prevent people from logging on to another console? What if they delete thier account? Stuff like that, but it would be awesome if they could please the people who want cross game chat, yet don't play online.
magicaltrevor
Banned
PSU.com
Not announced as part of PlayStation Plus? Well, then it's likely to come as a free feature with the next FW-update. But the text on the EU PlayStation-sites does indicate that it was supposed to be a PS Plus-feature:
I sure hope it didn't get delayed again! =( The 'Sony rep' PSU speaks of acts as if the feature never got listed.
Not announced as part of PlayStation Plus? Well, then it's likely to come as a free feature with the next FW-update. But the text on the EU PlayStation-sites does indicate that it was supposed to be a PS Plus-feature:
I sure hope it didn't get delayed again! =( The 'Sony rep' PSU speaks of acts as if the feature never got listed.
onken
Member
If people want to pay for discounts (guh?) then they're welcome but shit like cross game chat and background patch/firmware downloading should really be standard. I tried to play Motorstorm 2 the other day and it wanted me to sit and wait while it downloaded a 650mb patch :lol
The worst part is once Sony get a taste of the "free money" i.e. charging for stuff that should be free (we can all thank Microsoft for that) then there's no going back.
This is the whole problem with the "subscribe to discounts" model. If you don't do it this way then people take out the shortest subscription, rinse all the free stuff and discounts and then cancel. It's a really shitty idea, end of story.
The worst part is once Sony get a taste of the "free money" i.e. charging for stuff that should be free (we can all thank Microsoft for that) then there's no going back.
Spaulding said:
This is the whole problem with the "subscribe to discounts" model. If you don't do it this way then people take out the shortest subscription, rinse all the free stuff and discounts and then cancel. It's a really shitty idea, end of story.
Reluctant-Hero said:
because they want to sell you PS+ on the basis of getting a bunch of free games. Oh, that sounds ok.
when obviously any new and useful feature will also be tucked under that banner from now on.
I'd be interested to know how long they've had cross game chat ready. In theory they could have held select prime features back until they'd sorted out PS+ so they could charge for them.
Sneaky, but I can't really complain - we still get online play for free