Inferno313
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I like him a lot, but... ehhh.
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Daniel Craig will return as James Bond.
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I like him a lot, but... ehhh.
Bobby Roberts
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If WB buys EON to give Nolan his own playground there is no way he doesn't make Tom Hardy Bond.
Frozenprince
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I'm getting all hot and bothered just thinking about it.
Sorcerer
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How long would that take though, isn't Hardy already 39?
Jason's Ultimatum
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Please for the love of Christ keep Nolan away. His style doesn't fit Bond.
Discotheque
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His scriptwriting sure doesn't but that opening with Bane and "crashing this plane" in tdkr would fit right in a great bond movie tbh
I think a variation of it actually was in a bond movie
Bobby Roberts
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He has been putting Bond setpieces in his films since he first got a budget larger than 30 million
I am guessing it isn't WB who is going to be distributing based on this little nugget Phil Noble Jr found:
https://mobile.twitter.com/PhilNobileJr/status/897909086515277828
Annapurna taking over distribution is easily the best possible outcome. Holy hell I really hope this is where things are heading.
https://mobile.twitter.com/PhilNobileJr/status/897909086515277828
Annapurna taking over distribution is easily the best possible outcome. Holy hell I really hope this is where things are heading.
Bobby Roberts
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Well now. Wouldja lookit that
Skimming her last few months of tweets she never seems to tweet or retweet about any non-Annapurna films. This is a pretty intriguing little sign here.
Bobby Roberts
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This was a one-film distro deal though, was it not?
Basically, people were bidding for the rights to close out Craig's run.
This whole rigmarole starts all over again after Bond 25, I guess.
Basically, people were bidding for the rights to close out Craig's run.
This whole rigmarole starts all over again after Bond 25, I guess.
Annapurana (or anyone else) likely would treat this as a way to sell them on a long term plan though one would think. To show how they would support/work with EON and market and so on.
Inferno313
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Annapurna hasn't put out anything of this scale yet. Interesting.
Discotheque
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would make sense if this was a lower budget spy thriller.
which it obviously won't be but I'm starting to think they might pivot (like they drastically did at EON when Quantum didn't do so well, or Die Another Day -> Casino Royale for example) and reduce the scale. hence Annapurna hollering at them.
Bobby Roberts
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Just might be.
Mighta been what got Craig to come back, even.
Granted, they haven't announced the creative team, but I gotta imagine they've got something lined up that we simply haven't heard about yet.
These announcements don't happen the second the signings are done, typically.
Yeah, essentially a single film tryout to see if this is the home for whoever comes next.
BlazinSkatinAxel
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But Idris couldn't be Bond because he is to old and street right?
Bobby Roberts
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Pretty sure EON met with Idris a little bit ago and Idris himself said something along the lines of "I'm too old already"
Something like that.
I also think that at this point - 21st Century Bond pushing his 50s doesn't look like 70s Bond pushing his 50s.
Roger Moore wasn't exactly a hard-training physical specimen of virility.
However you look at Robert Downey Jr and it's like - yeah. Yeah, you could probably have a Bond in his mid-50s and it wouldn't be out of place. not with the physical training regimens (and the cocktail of drugs that goes along with it) that keep people looking fit as fuck way past the point where most of our bodies dissolve into saddlebags and wrinklesacks and old beer repositories.
So the "But the AGE!" arguments probably don't hold as much weight as everyone (myself included) seems to give them.
Something like that.
I also think that at this point - 21st Century Bond pushing his 50s doesn't look like 70s Bond pushing his 50s.
Roger Moore wasn't exactly a hard-training physical specimen of virility.
However you look at Robert Downey Jr and it's like - yeah. Yeah, you could probably have a Bond in his mid-50s and it wouldn't be out of place. not with the physical training regimens (and the cocktail of drugs that goes along with it) that keep people looking fit as fuck way past the point where most of our bodies dissolve into saddlebags and wrinklesacks and old beer repositories.
So the "But the AGE!" arguments probably don't hold as much weight as everyone (myself included) seems to give them.
I don't think the person who said Elba is 'too street' to play Bond has any say whatsoever in who does or doesn't become James Bond.
Also, while I'm kinda doubtful too that Eon is suddenly going to move in a scaled-back, lo-fi spy thriller direction even for just one Bond movie, that would line up with having somebody like Yann Demange direct.
Also, while I'm kinda doubtful too that Eon is suddenly going to move in a scaled-back, lo-fi spy thriller direction even for just one Bond movie, that would line up with having somebody like Yann Demange direct.
broncobuster
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They are going to avoid a 50 year old Bond like the plague.
Putting it into perspective, Elba would be the same age as Craig is now for his first. Assuming they get it out in 2021.
And as long as it's the same team still, typically the more major pictures they lead in. The less likely they get picked.
On Bonds, I was hoping Craig was gone. He gave no shits in Spectre and it showed. It was the same as Connery in DAF, while Skyfall was his You Only Live Twice. I'd prefer them to get someone excited for the role.
Putting it into perspective, Elba would be the same age as Craig is now for his first. Assuming they get it out in 2021.
And as long as it's the same team still, typically the more major pictures they lead in. The less likely they get picked.
On Bonds, I was hoping Craig was gone. He gave no shits in Spectre and it showed. It was the same as Connery in DAF, while Skyfall was his You Only Live Twice. I'd prefer them to get someone excited for the role.
Adam Sadler
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Really hope this movie is great
Some more distributor speculation from BMD:
http://birthmoviesdeath.com/2017/08/23/bond-talk-after-dark-art-appreciation-edition
http://birthmoviesdeath.com/2017/08/23/bond-talk-after-dark-art-appreciation-edition
Bobby Roberts
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Paramount?
...Paramount?
...Paramount?
Dee Dah Dave
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I feel a bit bad for Daniel. For me he is the GOAT Bond but he has been unfortunate to star in some of the weaker movies. I hope he does go out with a bang!
I think Brosnan was really unlucky in that regard as well. He was hired because he was charming and debonair on Remington Steele. He ended up riding around in tanks, flying fighter planes and doing a Rambo impression in four movies with ridiculous scripts.
The Greek Freak
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Give me the Idris Elba Bond I've wanted for a decade. He's so awesome but keeps getting put in shit movies.
LegendofDragoonLives
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Elba is a beast but he's too damn old. Get some unknown dude that has a ton of potential. If WB gets it, Nolan will likely direct (hopefully) just 1 movie and let someone else take over the reigns.
Even Craig at his weakest has never done anything nearly as bad as Diamonds Are Forever, The Man With The Golden Gun, Moonraker, A View to a Kill, Tomorrow Never Dies, The World is Not Enough, or Die Another Die.
While Craig at his weakest is a steep fall from Casino Royale, it is still above the average of your typical Bond film.
People are still saying this even though its been confirmed Craig is back?
The Idris Elba ship has sailed long ago.
Matrix XII
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The true Bond will always be Brosnan to me. He has so much charisma and looked the part of Bond better than any other.
Daniel Craig does a fine job, although he appears emotionless at times which disengages me from the film.
Daniel Craig does a fine job, although he appears emotionless at times which disengages me from the film.
GreyOcelot
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uhhhh...say what now? there's like a dozen bond movies that are significantly worse than the worst craig films
How did he look the part when he didn't look like Bond? The Bond who most looked like the character is Timothy Dalton. I can't even see how that is a debate.
MaddenNFL64
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On a high note being the operative word.
The last Bond was god awful, and I hated that he went out like that.
One more shot, Craig!
The last Bond was god awful, and I hated that he went out like that.
One more shot, Craig!
Id rather watch a bad movie than a boring one. Casino royale was the only Craig film not to be boring as shit but that's purely off the strength of Madds.
Matrix XII
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Isn't looking like Bond a subjective matter? I just felt Brosnan had the charisma and look to be the best Bond.
Krauser Kat
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Fuck nolan directing anything bond related. He doesn't have a funny bone is his body. Craig's bond is already grimdark compared to old films we dont need to go further into that territory.
MaddenNFL64
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Oh for sure, Daniel Craig's worst (Spectre) is still better than that drek.
Well if we are talking about who most looked like Bond we have had descriptions of what he looks like canonically.
I think the biggest knock most fans have on Brosnan and why he is widely accepted as worst Bond amongst the fanbase (not counting Lazenby) is that he didn't really do anything original. He just aped elements of previous bonds. That and not having a single movie other than GoldenEye that was well liked hurt him pretty significantly.
He goes down as the only Bond actor to be fired. Everyone else quit on their own, he was forced out when he wanted to do a 5th film.
SpideySenses
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I'm so out of sync with the general consensus, for my money Craig's tenure has been the third best run of movies in the series (first being Dr. No to OHMSS, second Living Daylights to GoldenEye, perhaps with TND at a stretch), I can understand people finding fault at certain aspects but when viewed against the entire series, this has been a really solid period.
Inferno313
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Agreed. I'd place Casino Royale and Skyfall both in the top 5.
dragonyeuw
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For my money Casino royale is the best Bond film in 20 years, and arguably one of the top 3 in the franchise( at worst top 5). I left that film feeling rejuvenated and hopeful about the future of the franchise, like I had just witnessed an event. All of the subsequent films have been much worse, with Skyfall being the least offensive( OK Skyfall was good, not Casino Royale good though).
