Psycho_Mantis
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Well it was the "B team" and many people think its the worst Soul game.
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Dark Souls II - Graphics Comparison - PC Preview
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Well it was the "B team" and many people think its the worst Soul game.
Seriously? I couldn't care less about what the game looks like, it's just the principle of it all.
Obviously not, but it's a decent substitute if you refuse to buy DaSII.
Metroid-Squadron
Banned
There's one interesting point there which clearly shows that the shadow resolution is higher on PC.
So improved IQ, framerate, texture and shadow resolution.
(That shot also clearly shows higher texture res on the stones in the front btw.)
So, where are the improved textures? The IQ gains there are from screen resolution only.
Pie and Beans
Look for me on the local news, I'll be the guy arrested for trying to burn down a Nintendo exec's house.
PC version of Dark Souls was a total afterthought and cheap affair. This was supposed to be a ground up affair on PC first. Clearly it was at one time, then absolutely wasn't later. What I'd give to get my hands on that original demo area. What could/should have been. No reason that lighting wasn't put back in and dynamic stuff. Not much reason for the month delay beyond the usual console pump n dump.
Looking forward to Miyazaki's A Team and what they can achieve on PS4.
I started laughing at the Giant Bomb quick look and the shit-as-all-hell ladder climbing animation. Fuck me.
i think you need a xanax
Metroid-Squadron
Banned
The marketing of those games was perfectly honest. Try again.
JustinSaneV2
Neo Member
You must not be in fullscreen/1080p because the difference in framerate is quite obvious. There is definitely more fluidity on the PC.
Misterinenja
Member
I was mostly referring to the "absolutely gutted" part.
Well have fun not playing Dark Souls 2 people!
SJRB
Gold Member
Not all sconces give dynamic lighting in the console versions either, it's pretty bizarre.
Nice, some of the shadows on the console version are extremely blocky and look horrible.
SargerusBR
I love Pokken!
Many people also think Demon Souls or Dark Souls is the worst Soul game. What is your point?
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
Well yeah, you get hi-res textures because the game can support hi-res resolutions.
It doesn't meant that they reworked it, it just means that it's sharper.
The textures are markedly better, and it's the most noticeable thing about the media coming out.
zephervack
Member
Whats that weird halo effect in the PS3 Version:
DrROBschiz
Member
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=737332
Plenty of new information of Dark Souls II appeared in this month's EDGE issue:
- Dark Souls II is FROMSOFT biggest game in the studio's history with the development team roughy doubled.
- Miyazaki is closely overseeing development of the game, unlike of what was previously reported.
- Production of the game was split in two, with Yui Tanimura in charge of battle mechanics and gameplay while Tomohiro Shibuya is in charge of world and design.
- The opening cinematic will be available for public sometime in January.
- Members of the Brotherhood of Blood and Blue Sentinels can fight PvP battles within their own Covenants.
- Hints of a new Covenant that will act as a police force hunting down invaders, adding an element of risk on those who seek to prey on weaker players.
- Dark Souls II world is about the same size of Dark Souls, but in regards of how proceeding through the world the player will be given more freedom to choose their decisions.
- Lifegems are being balanced and tuned, number of items in general will be limited to balance the game progression.
- Dark Souls II bosses will not be necessarily bigger than Dark Souls, just more interesting in terms of design and fighting style.
- Feedback from the beta was positive, the results of the test proved that Bamco's servers in Japan have plenty of capacity, though it will likely set up local servers in North America and Europe too.
- The darkness of Huntsman's Copse was a common complaint in the beta, FROM said that they are not going to make any brighter, there will be critical moments where you will be forced to choose between a shield's protection and a torch's vision.
- The team cranked up the difficulty but it's still debating whether it's too hard or too easy.
- Regarding the PC version, Tanimura says the game development is based on PC and they will make sure that the main PC game features are supported.
- Regarding Playstation 4 and Xbox One versions Tanimura said that "We have not put any thought into this yet, so I unfortunately cant answer at this point."
More details in the magazine.
Its Crazy how much changed from then
Plenty of new information of Dark Souls II appeared in this month's EDGE issue:
- Dark Souls II is FROMSOFT biggest game in the studio's history with the development team roughy doubled.
- Miyazaki is closely overseeing development of the game, unlike of what was previously reported.
- Production of the game was split in two, with Yui Tanimura in charge of battle mechanics and gameplay while Tomohiro Shibuya is in charge of world and design.
- The opening cinematic will be available for public sometime in January.
- Members of the Brotherhood of Blood and Blue Sentinels can fight PvP battles within their own Covenants.
- Hints of a new Covenant that will act as a police force hunting down invaders, adding an element of risk on those who seek to prey on weaker players.
- Dark Souls II world is about the same size of Dark Souls, but in regards of how proceeding through the world the player will be given more freedom to choose their decisions.
- Lifegems are being balanced and tuned, number of items in general will be limited to balance the game progression.
- Dark Souls II bosses will not be necessarily bigger than Dark Souls, just more interesting in terms of design and fighting style.
- Feedback from the beta was positive, the results of the test proved that Bamco's servers in Japan have plenty of capacity, though it will likely set up local servers in North America and Europe too.
- The darkness of Huntsman's Copse was a common complaint in the beta, FROM said that they are not going to make any brighter, there will be critical moments where you will be forced to choose between a shield's protection and a torch's vision.
- The team cranked up the difficulty but it's still debating whether it's too hard or too easy.
- Regarding the PC version, Tanimura says the game development is based on PC and they will make sure that the main PC game features are supported.
- Regarding Playstation 4 and Xbox One versions Tanimura said that "We have not put any thought into this yet, so I unfortunately cant answer at this point."
More details in the magazine.
Its Crazy how much changed from then
CountAntonius
Member
So you haven't played the game and consider it bad?
Aside from the torch mechanic being more important what all changed?
bee
Member
flicked through the giantbomb quick look, weird that some lights are dynamic while most are not, same on consoles?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2xPah553Ew#t=16m34
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2xPah553Ew#t=16m34
Metroid-Squadron
Banned
Whats that weird halo effect in the PS3 Version:
Badly coded SSAO.
Worse. much worse. At least after dsfix.
"many people" :lol
Many people also think it's the best Souls game.
I know better many people than the other guy.
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
edit: should read quote trees better.
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
Nearly not as many. Anyway we don't even have to use that as a meter.
Simply put this was the B team Souls game. The original DKS team, a notable amount of them are working on something else with Miyazaki.
Err, nothing really changed from that list except that they conceded to fan feedback that huntsman's copse was too dark in the beta.
I too base all my game purchases off of the marketing team rather than the actual game product.
People missing out on a great game from a "series they love" because marketing is just too damn funny to me. Either way, real PC gamers are in for a treat with this game.
It worked amazing in
the gutter
DrROBschiz
Member
Ill take a PS4 version with the PC upgrades
I still love the game it is despite it not being the game it was originally pitched to be
I am just disappointed at the compromises they had to make but I in no way hate the game itself
Still a great game by any standard. Just not the standard set by its original vision.
D
Deleted member 17706
Unconfirmed Member
Expected, but still extraordinarily disappointing. Wish they just never showed any of that initial footage with the great atmospheric lighting. Oh well.
I still loved the game on PS3 and have it pre-ordered on PC. Higher res, 60 FPS, better textures, and dramatically reduced loading times will make it totally worth it.
I still loved the game on PS3 and have it pre-ordered on PC. Higher res, 60 FPS, better textures, and dramatically reduced loading times will make it totally worth it.
John Rabbit
Banned
this "b-team" shit is disgusting. the game is great.
Misterinenja
Member
Like... what?
Relaxed Muscle
Member
Well, you said "excellent PC port" and not "excellent From Software PC port"
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
Does it really matter which team worked on what when the game is still good?
Crab Milk Mickey
Member
Comparison videos have shown that the textures are identical. Did notice the player shadows are slighty improved and that some metalic armors like Pate's and
The Pursuer
No, it's the same way on consoles.
JustinSaneV2
Neo Member
DSFix simply allowed the unlocking of the framerate and increased resolution. By itself it did nothing to increase the quality of the textures or the environment (other than make them a tad sharper thanks to increased resolution).
You're entitled to your opinion but you are crazy if you honestly believe this looks "much worse" than DS1. DS2 has noticeable improvements on distance rending and texture quality.
ScottSullivan
Member
Ive been playing on the digital ps3 version and if the framerate is below 30 i havent noticed or it seems to be stable. And if it is running poorly as you say, think how much worse it could have been wih the old builds lighting ans textures
Honestly, I'm pretty surprised that a lot of people take/took this quote:
...to mean that the targetted specs of the game would be drastically higher than 360/PS3. I always read this as the game will support most expected PC game features (kinda like how Devil May Cry 4 was "made for PC"), not that the game would push PCs and be severely downgraded for consoles. Which is what we're getting.
...to mean that the targetted specs of the game would be drastically higher than 360/PS3. I always read this as the game will support most expected PC game features (kinda like how Devil May Cry 4 was "made for PC"), not that the game would push PCs and be severely downgraded for consoles. Which is what we're getting.
So now we're not "real" gamers? Sorry if I misinterpreted the meaning behind your post, but that's how it came off to me.
I really want to like you because of your Fred avatar, but you're making it very hard.
Pie and Beans
Look for me on the local news, I'll be the guy arrested for trying to burn down a Nintendo exec's house.
Not this shit again. I've explained my viewpoint and all the media and information I've consumed in other threads. Can't be arsed doing it again.Defend away, its your prerogative.
I'll still be playing the game, but its clearly no longer the best product they could have made and a temple of compromise all over. When I found out barely any of the staff from Demon's and Dark 1 worked on this title, it explained a lot. Dudes got to earn a living, and hey it sounds like they get close in some areas and put a fresh a spin on other, but I can safely say I'm not the only one this whole wool-pulling tour of bait and switch turdery has taken its toll on.
Eh. Looks about the same to me overall.
A notable amount of them worked on DS2 as well... and the statement that they're working on something else with Miyazaki is just an assumption, maybe a fair one.
Calling it a b-team game doesn't sit well with me... I put it in the same league as the other games, B-team implies a drastic difference in quality which I'm not seeing.
Yeah... no.
While true, I won't be dropping 50 bones for this. I'll wait till its $20 or below.
The improvements are not much more significant than what we saw with DSfix'd Dark Souls 1 vs PS3 Dark Souls 1 and it's nice to get at least that much this time around, but this looks to me like a port to PC rather than the PC lead platform claims that were made before.
Still excited to finally play this at buttery smooth 1080p/60fps out of the box!
Still excited to finally play this at buttery smooth 1080p/60fps out of the box!
Quick reactions, no perspective.
I'm sorry, but this is an absolutely ridiculous statement.
