Wolfgunblood Garopa
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Dark Souls |OT| So the industry might be mended
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teh_J0kerer
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Any guys in Japan know if there are midnight releases over here for this game?
I dunno, preventing savescumming has always been a staple of certain genres. Hell, some PC roguelikes delete your saves as soon as you load into them, meaning you're left with nothing until you go through the full process of saving and quitting. It would be nice if From were a bit more lax, but I guess I'd prefer the inconveniences of uncopyable saves to rampant cheating.alr1ghtstart said:
teh_J0kerer
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alr1ghtstart said:
Wait what? Are you saying that I can't copy my saves for this game and bring them to my brother's house to play on his ps3?
It's tough in a game like DS because the singleplayer and multiplayer are so connected. It just irritates me when games with "regular" SP & MP lock them all into one save file (I'm looking at you KZ2). If they don't want cheating, make a separate save for the MP and I really couldn't care less if someone cheats in a SP game.
They still should just encrypt them to one user/system, as I'll take the benefits of knowing my 100+ hour game won't be lost as opposed to some random player duping items.
They still should just encrypt them to one user/system, as I'll take the benefits of knowing my 100+ hour game won't be lost as opposed to some random player duping items.
The_Darkest_Red said:
It's a game that is unforgiving to mistakes and demands patience and awareness from the player, in a day where so many titles are desperate to hold your hand and carefully guide you from point A to B. That's why people have trouble quantifying the difficulty in Demon's Souls. It's not difficult skill-wise as something like Ninja Gaiden or DMC, though you've still gotta be on your toes when facing a boss like Flamelurker in melee.
It mostly just requires you to pay attention to your surroundings and tread carefully, concepts many gamers these days struggle with because they so rarely see it. Combat has a methodical rhythm to it and generally involves less in terms of reflexes and dexterity and much more in the way of tactical awareness and proper timing.
Gamers who play DS sprinting around unfamiliar environments and diving headlong into battle throwing all caution to the wind, thinking they're playing Heavenly Sword or some shit, will and have struggled to beat 1-1 after a couple hours and just permanently ragequit, damning Demon's Souls to the depths of hell and all of its masochistic followers with it.
I wonder if you will be locked out of summoning in "stages" after you beat the bosses or if it will be possible to co op at any moment.
In DS the objective was to defeat the major demon in each stage but that is no longer the case with the open world.
in theory it should be possible to co op for a longer amount of time if you do not die but who knows how they have changed how it works.
In DS the objective was to defeat the major demon in each stage but that is no longer the case with the open world.
in theory it should be possible to co op for a longer amount of time if you do not die but who knows how they have changed how it works.
teh_J0kerer
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Orayn said:
Damn, that blows. About a week after the Japanese release Im traveling to North America for about a month, partly to visit my family. I'm screwed..
darkjedi187
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I leave next week for vacation and i go back to work on release day. 
maybe I need to extend my vacation by a day.
maybe I need to extend my vacation by a day.teh_J0kerer
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Takuya said:
Oh, wait, I didn't know this was possible.. I don't know shit about PS+. If I cancel PS+ at some point, then can I get the save back off the cloud?
teh_J0kerer
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alr1ghtstart said:
Oh.. lame. I don't think I want to permanently subscribe to PS+ just for my dark souls save game lol.
I guess I could lug my ps3 across the pacific..
.Backfoggen
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Did they patch in auto-save to the cloud yet or do you have to do it manually.
MMaRsu
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So I heard some interesting news about this game yesterday..
So it seems the world isn't fully 100% open as in, it has linear paths still. You can go a few ways in the beginning but it seems that those paths are so crazy hard and dangerous that you'll be sort of funneled into going a certain way, at least the first time.
Not that it really bothers me, just something I thought was like eh? They've been touting this open world stuff, you can go anywhere anytime..sure you can I guess but only if you want to be a sick ass mofo.
So it seems the world isn't fully 100% open as in, it has linear paths still. You can go a few ways in the beginning but it seems that those paths are so crazy hard and dangerous that you'll be sort of funneled into going a certain way, at least the first time.
Not that it really bothers me, just something I thought was like eh? They've been touting this open world stuff, you can go anywhere anytime..sure you can I guess but only if you want to be a sick ass mofo.
johntown
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When they say open they mean more seamless (not open like Skyrim will be). The really hard alternate paths makes sense to me.......to have something for a second playthrough.MMaRsu said:
I know I never expected it to be fully open like most WRPGS but I think seamless is a much better description.
indigo-cyclops
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So is it possible to save to the cloud and have a copy on your machine that works if you don't resub? I don't know much about that...
Sorry if that's the same question that's being discussed but I'm just looking at it as having a backup so to speak that sits on my machine. No plans to transfer to other machine at this time.
Sorry if that's the same question that's being discussed but I'm just looking at it as having a backup so to speak that sits on my machine. No plans to transfer to other machine at this time.
teh_J0kerer
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Wait, so I'm just getting confused.
Can I or can I not do the following:
Buy Dark Souls Sep 22 in Japan. Get a 3 month PS+ subscription, and save my game to the cloud. Sept 29 I travel to Toronto. I sign in under my own psn id on my brother's PS3, and use my cloud save for dark souls. Oct 31 I return to Japan, and continue playing with my cloud save on my ps3. The cloud save is then synched to my own ps3. After 2 more months, my ps+ subscription runs out, and I continue playing dark souls with my hard copy save as normal.
Can I or can I not do the following:
Buy Dark Souls Sep 22 in Japan. Get a 3 month PS+ subscription, and save my game to the cloud. Sept 29 I travel to Toronto. I sign in under my own psn id on my brother's PS3, and use my cloud save for dark souls. Oct 31 I return to Japan, and continue playing with my cloud save on my ps3. The cloud save is then synched to my own ps3. After 2 more months, my ps+ subscription runs out, and I continue playing dark souls with my hard copy save as normal.
I'm still on the fence about preordering the US collector's edition.
The Japanese version gives you a physical soundtrack and map:
...but costs Y8900, or almost $120!
The US CE is half the price at $60:
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00542ZQJO/?tag=neogaf0e-20
...but the extras aren't pictured. The strategy guide is a one-user-only digital thing, right? How about the soundtrack? Not that the game's not worth buying, but I might just shell out for the Japanese version and play it on Day 1.
The Japanese version gives you a physical soundtrack and map:
...but costs Y8900, or almost $120!
The US CE is half the price at $60:
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00542ZQJO/?tag=neogaf0e-20
...but the extras aren't pictured. The strategy guide is a one-user-only digital thing, right? How about the soundtrack? Not that the game's not worth buying, but I might just shell out for the Japanese version and play it on Day 1.
I think a lot of the "open world" stuff was overreaction and misunderstandings from the Western press. Sure, it'll be a lot more open than Demon's Souls, but I've heard Skyrim-like expectations from lots of people, which just isn't the case. If anything, it's going to be a rat's nest of semi-linear levels connected in semi-linear ways.MMaRsu said:
Wait, the "metal case" just contains all the normal stuff and isn't a Steelbook? Damn.UDA said:I believe this is the "final" version of the US Collector's Edition.
Yes, the strategy guide is digital and I believe the soundtrack is as well. The cover art for the Japanese version is a plus on its own though.
Nice to know that the artbook is still physical at least...
MMaRsu said:
This is kind of what I was expecting, to be honest. I knew it would not be Elder Scrolls open, but would simply feature more open areas, with varied paths that open up short cuts and contain traps, etc. Given the structure of the game, I really would not have it any other way.
The_Darkest_Red
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I don't know but I'm also pretty curious about this. "Mini-strategy guide" sounds like PR speak for "unfinished strategy guide" to me.Cmagus said:
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