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[Squishy]

Has there been anything mentioned recently about weapon swing speed being affected by (strength/dexterity?) stats? It would potentially add a huge amount of depth to the combat (not that it needs much more). I'd imagine it would work in a similar way to the

Spoiler

4 different stages of roll speed

if it did exist.

Also, I'm tossing up whether or not to get the US version special edition (in addition to the JPN and PAL versions i've already pre-ordered) since it apparently comes in a steel book (and i'm a sucker for steel books) even though it seems to be getting the short end of the stick in terms of extras. Is there anything that gives it the edge over the PAL version? I'm still a little bit confused about the contents, since there have been a few different variations of covers and contents over the past months for different regions.

 

[Yoshichan]

youarealreadydead.jpg etc.

bwahaha

 

[Urban Scholar]

Man, woke today to see a friend left me a message: Two Weeks!!!

Yeah I think he's hyped

 

[Yoshichan]

Man, woke today to see a friend left me a message: Two Weeks!!!

Yeah I think he's hyped

This is what I've been doing to my friend on MSN the past 2 months :lol

 

[web01]

Has there been anything mentioned recently about weapon swing speed being affected by (strength/dexterity?) stats? It would potentially add a huge amount of depth to the combat (not that it needs much more). I'd imagine it would work in a similar way to the

Spoiler

4 different stages of roll speed

if it did exist.

Also, I'm tossing up whether or not to get the US version special edition (in addition to the JPN and PAL versions i've already pre-ordered) since it apparently comes in a steel book (and i'm a sucker for steel books) even though it seems to be getting the short end of the stick in terms of extras. Is there anything that gives it the edge over the PAL version? I'm still a little bit confused about the contents, since there have been a few different variations of covers and contents over the past months for different regions.

Well it has been mentioned the weapons of the same class will not always share the same swings. Whether that means they have unique animations or speeds is yet to be seen, but it seems like a safe bet. I do remember the devs saying somethnig about wanting to make every weapon unique so that players could discover their own preferred play styles.

 

[Yoshichan]

Did we get a confirmation about the jump button in this game?

 

[Foffy]

Did we get a confirmation about the jump button in this game?

It's related to the roll, I think. There is Gamescom footage of the jumping, and it's more of a mini hop.

 

[Sotha Sil]

Two weeks. Two damn weeks.

 

[TGMIII]

Asked before but I'm pretty sure no one gave an answer. Can you properly co-op in this or is it like demons souls where one player has to be in soul form?

 

[Yoshichan]

It's related to the roll, I think. There is Gamescom footage of the jumping, and it's more of a mini hop.

Interesting...

 

[kvn]

I don't live in the US.

Surely there are copy/print shops in Sweden, no?

 

[Yoshichan]

Surely there are copy/print shops in Sweden, no?

Filmhuset is a great place for prints. Hopefully there's one near him.

 

[panda21]

ahhh I don't know if should 360 or ps3

sounds like they have been demoing it on 360?

probably will end up both :3

 

[Foffy]

Asked before but I'm pretty sure no one gave an answer. Can you properly co-op in this or is it like demons souls where one player has to be in soul form?

I think it's structured a bit in the same way. Considering you play as an Undead/Undying/Hollow (what's the name they're going with now? ) I believe you must be in Human form to have people join your game. I have heard that if you're not in Human form, you can still join other peoples games, but I'm unsure about that.

Humanity seems to be much easier to come by compared to being in Body form ala Demon's Souls. The footage from NicoNico's playthrough indicated

Spoiler

it is a rare drop absorbed when killing enemies, when you get their souls.

 

[Yoshichan]

ahhh I don't know if should 360 or ps3

sounds like they have been demoing it on 360?

probably will end up both :3

They've been demoing it on PS3 the majority of times. It's also the lead console. And the hardcore fanbase is on PS3.

 

[mescalineeyes]

Just wanted to jump in here and say that if you don't have any eggs, you can sometimes find a completely untouched dozen eggs under a local bridge.

this might be the post of the year. kudos.

 

[Backfoggen]

Are the PS3 saves copy protected again?

 

[Yoshichan]

Are the PS3 saves copy protected again?

Most likely, but not if you're using cloud storage through PS+.

 

[Chinpoko_Master]

I like the title, but I would've preferred:

Dark Souls |OT| I should have been the one to fill your Dark Souls with LIIIIIIIGHT!

 

[teh_J0kerer]

So someone on the dark souls wiki says that he got some kind of official confirmation that the Japanese version and the NA version will not be on the same servers.

So now what do I do? I live in Japan, but my Japanese isn't great.

I'd much rather play in English, but I also don't want to put up with lag in multiplayer (and I don't mind getting the game early).

Shrug, I guess I'll be getting the Japanese version, but the language situation kind of sucks.

 

[Defuser]

Is it wrong If I wanted the OP's thread title to renamed to : " Dark Souls |OT| You died like a bitch"

 

[Requeim]

god i can't waaaait, there's a blank spot next to my US and EU collector's editions of Demon's Souls just waiting to be filled.

 

[Backfoggen]

Most likely, but not if you're using cloud storage through PS+.

I'd rather just put my saves on an usb key so I hope the 360 version doesn't suck technically.

 

[Doomrider]

Are the PS3 saves copy protected again?

They are, according to wotter (he has a review copy):

Mandatory/optional install?
Nope, although save files are quite big (8.5 megs) and copy protected (!)

 

[JumpingTheGun]

great new thread title.

 

[indigo-cyclops]

So someone on the dark souls wiki says that he got some kind of official confirmation that the Japanese version and the NA version will not be on the same servers.

So now what do I do? I live in Japan, but my Japanese isn't great.

I'd much rather play in English, but I also don't want to put up with lag in multiplayer (and I don't mind getting the game early).

Shrug, I guess I'll be getting the Japanese version, but the language situation kind of sucks.

Where did you hear that? Which wiki, I mean...

 

[The_Darkest_Red]

I bought Demon's Souls at launch and while I enjoyed what I played of it I never got around to finishing it. I don't remember being stuck or anything, I just got distracted by other games. I probably played the game for around 15 hours so I have a good idea of how everything works.

Now, I'm looking for some advice. Beyond telling me repeatedly how much of a heathen I am for not finishing Demon Souls, can anyone tell me what I should do regarding the franchise at this point? I'm very interested in Dark Souls and I would like to pick it up at launch, this time with a much more dedicated attitude towards actually finishing the game.

Do you guys think I should pick up Dark Souls and forget about Demon's Souls, at least until I'm done with the new game? Should I finish Demon's Souls first? Is there anything about Dark Souls that sounds much better than the first game, or is it basically going to be more of the same? I've been trying to avoid too much exposure to the game so I figured I would ask for some advice here.

 

[indigo-cyclops]

I bought Demon's Souls at launch and while I enjoyed what I played of it I never got around to finishing it. I don't remember being stuck or anything, I just got distracted by other games. I probably played the game for around 15 hours so I have a good idea of how everything works.

Now, I'm looking for some advice. Beyond telling me repeatedly how much of a heathen I am for not finishing Demon Souls, can anyone tell me what I should do regarding the franchise at this point? I'm very interested in Dark Souls and I would like to pick it up at launch, this time with a much more dedicated attitude towards actually finishing the game.

Do you guys think I should pick up Dark Souls and forget about Demon's Souls, at least until I'm done with the new game? Should I finish Demon's Souls first? Is there anything about Dark Souls that sounds much better than the first game, or is it basically going to be more of the same? I've been trying to avoid too much exposure to the game so I figured I would ask for some advice here.

There will definitely be improvements, additions that differ from Demon's Souls. Some people, and I agree with them, have mentioned in this thread that you really will appreciate the changes if you've played it, which it sounds like you did. Story-wise the games aren't connected (or are they?), so I don't think you have to worry about that. I think the final bits of Demon's Souls are incredibly unique and interesting, and some of the coolest aesthetics, visually, happen in the end regarding environment/enemy concepts. It's an experience, but also not completely necessary. Still, I'm always for playing the whole game

 

[BrodiemanTTR]

I bought Demon's Souls at launch and while I enjoyed what I played of it I never got around to finishing it. I don't remember being stuck or anything, I just got distracted by other games. I probably played the game for around 15 hours so I have a good idea of how everything works.

Now, I'm looking for some advice. Beyond telling me repeatedly how much of a heathen I am for not finishing Demon Souls, can anyone tell me what I should do regarding the franchise at this point? I'm very interested in Dark Souls and I would like to pick it up at launch, this time with a much more dedicated attitude towards actually finishing the game.

Do you guys think I should pick up Dark Souls and forget about Demon's Souls, at least until I'm done with the new game? Should I finish Demon's Souls first? Is there anything about Dark Souls that sounds much better than the first game, or is it basically going to be more of the same? I've been trying to avoid too much exposure to the game so I figured I would ask for some advice here.

Finishing Demon's Souls is worth it just for the 1-4 boss battle.

I'll be hopping on Dark Souls later than most as a result of most likely getting it through Goozex, but I expect a thriving online community to make my world even more of a living hell when I start playing a few months from now. Hype!

 

[teh_J0kerer]

Where did you hear that? Which wiki, I mean...

http://darksoulswiki.wikispaces.com/message/view/home/42683744

 

[indigo-cyclops]

http://darksoulswiki.wikispaces.com/message/view/home/42683744

Thanks for posting that; definitely makes the decision of which version to get tough, but still not quite official confirmation yet. That would suck, wish there was "Official" word of this...

 

[web01]

Would the seperate servers be only for the ps3 versions or the 360 version also?

Do any 360 games seperate games by region and does microsoft even allow it?

 

[indigo-cyclops]

Would the seperate servers be only for the ps3 versions or the 360 version also?

Do any 360 games seperate games by region and does microsoft even allow it?

That could be what is meant, and the poster on the wiki was confused? Meaning, PS3 and 360 servers are separate.

 

[Marco1]

Has there been any indication whether the 360 version will be worse than PS3 version?
Thanks and apologies if it's been mentioned.

 

[Takuya]

Has there been any indication whether the 360 version will be worse than PS3 version?
Thanks and apologies if it's been mentioned.

Apart from the 40 second load time after dying (360), they're pretty much similar.

 

[DuendeSmoker]

Has there been any indication whether the 360 version will be worse than PS3 version?
Thanks and apologies if it's been mentioned.

Besides rumors of compressed audio, nothing.

I think it's safe to say that both versions are at least on par with each other.

 

[Kacho]

Will there be a demo? The fact that there wasn't one for Demon's Souls and the frightening difficulty tales were what kept me from getting it.

I almost missed out on the first game because I took forum comments and gaming press (Giant Bomb mostly) comments about the difficulty too seriously. Honestly, Demon's Souls isn't that hard. The game has an almost perfect difficulty curve. It's challenging, yet fair.

 

[Matsuno]

Dark Souls in Japan......
http://www.best-darksouls-navi.com/2011/09/blog-post_19.html

 

[Angst]

Apart from the 40 second load time after dying (360), they're pretty much similar.

Hopefully that 40 second load time is not in the final game. TGS build and all that.

 

[indigo-cyclops]

Dark Souls in Japan......
http://www.best-darksouls-navi.com/2011/09/blog-post_19.html

Oh my god, so fucking stoked right now.

So glad I took Saturday off.

I almost missed out on the first game because I took forum comments and gaming press (Giant Bomb mostly) comments about the difficulty too seriously. Honestly, Demon's Souls isn't that hard. The game has an almost perfect difficulty curve. It's challenging, yet fair.

Very good point, I felt the same way after multiple playthroughs. You become very strong at higher SL, and when weapons are maxed and you're used to the mechanics and enemies, it's not too hard.

 

[Orayn]

Dark Souls in Japan......
http://www.best-darksouls-navi.com/2011/09/blog-post_19.html

Haha, looks like Japan's been reading this very thread! Also, interesting that it's broken street date already.

 

[The_Darkest_Red]

I almost missed out on the first game because I took forum comments and gaming press (Giant Bomb mostly) comments about the difficulty too seriously. Honestly, Demon's Souls isn't that hard. The game has an almost perfect difficulty curve. It's challenging, yet fair.

Yeah I always felt like the difficulty of the game was portrayed incorrectly because there's just not an easy way to describe it. It's something you have to experience for yourself to really understand. I had a college roommate play it on my PS3 and beat it, and he wasn't a regular gamer at all. He was patient and meticulous though, and those attributes go a long way in Demon's Souls.

 

[semiconscious]

I bought Demon's Souls at launch and while I enjoyed what I played of it I never got around to finishing it. I don't remember being stuck or anything, I just got distracted by other games. I probably played the game for around 15 hours so I have a good idea of how everything works.

Now, I'm looking for some advice. Beyond telling me repeatedly how much of a heathen I am for not finishing Demon Souls, can anyone tell me what I should do regarding the franchise at this point? I'm very interested in Dark Souls and I would like to pick it up at launch, this time with a much more dedicated attitude towards actually finishing the game.

Do you guys think I should pick up Dark Souls and forget about Demon's Souls, at least until I'm done with the new game? Should I finish Demon's Souls first? Is there anything about Dark Souls that sounds much better than the first game, or is it basically going to be more of the same? I've been trying to avoid too much exposure to the game so I figured I would ask for some advice here.

unless you genuinely hated the game, there's no possible way i could recommend not finishing demon's souls. &, seeing as you didn't, i won't...

otoh, what with all the 'new hotness' dark souls hype right now, if you're into such crap, then sure, why not pass on it for now? yes, there will always be something missing in your life until you do get around to finishing it, but, hey, like millions of others, you'll just have to stumble along in the meantime ...

 

[Angst]

Dark Souls in Japan......
http://www.best-darksouls-navi.com/2011/09/blog-post_19.html

WTF at this guys eyes:

also: proof that David Bowie is in every game

 

[indigo-cyclops]

Haha, looks like Japan's been reading this very thread! Also, interesting that it's broken street date already.

Yea it is, wish it would ship to the State importers earlier

Still confused if the "picture book award" comes automatically, I know it's being sold separately right now.

Although I think worldrevolution cleared that up.

 

[teh_J0kerer]

So what's the deal with the collector's edition in Japan? It looks like it's not a free upgrade, and just costs extra as normal? (just looking on amazon.co.jp)

 

[soldat7]

Will there be a demo? The fact that there wasn't one for Demon's Souls and the frightening difficulty tales were what kept me from getting it.

Demo? lol

In all seriousness, a demo wouldn't come close to doing this game any justice, and would be a disservice to the game and the experience.

Asked before but I'm pretty sure no one gave an answer. Can you properly co-op in this or is it like demons souls where one player has to be in soul form?

This game is doing everything it can to remain as unconventional as possible.

 

[indigo-cyclops]

So what's the deal with the collector's edition in Japan? It looks like it's not a free upgrade, and just costs extra as normal? (just looking on amazon.co.jp)

Yup, that's what I've seen, and worldrevolution confirmed in this thread that there isn't an automatic upgrade for pre-orders. Kind of sucks.

But that link just posted has me confused. Obviously he probably purchased the award version.

 

[The_Darkest_Red]

unless you genuinely hated the game, there's no possible way i could recommend not finishing demon's souls. &, seeing as you didn't, i won't...

otoh, what with all the 'new hotness' dark souls hype right now, if you're into such crap, then sure, why not pass on it for now? yes, there will always be something missing in your life until you do get around to finishing it, but, hey, like millions of others, you'll just have to stumble along in the meantime ...

I guess I'm just a little intimidated at the thought of picking up in Demon's Souls where I left off. I haven't played the game in at least a year or so and I don't really remember where I was, what was going on, or how much time it would take me to finish the game. The thought of starting fresh is just a lot more appealing at this point.

Of course, you could just keep trying and eventually convince me to play Demon's Souls... I need to get it off my mind anyway...

Then there is the issue of Dark Souls being upgraded for free to the collector's edition if you preorder. That just makes it so hard to pass up.

 

[Angst]

Demo? lol

In all seriousness, a demo wouldn't come close to doing this game any justice, and would be a disservice to the game and the experience.

This game is doing everything it can to remain as unconventional as possible.

Only demo I could see working is full game with a time limit. Like the full game trials on PSN Store.