AgentChris
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Two generations from now... we could see some crazy partnerships. Like Sony and Microsoft. I think there was some sort of website domain registered by Microsoft.
I swear I've heard this at the end of the last 2 generations.
"But I don't f***ing know."
-David Jaffe, modern Socrates
LOL at pc.
Maybe the hardcore but I'm starting to regret my pc that i built a few years ago for gaming.
I took down my computer desk. moved the pc to next to the tv. Its just really an itunes server now, with some gaming. Some people are married to their xbl achievements, I'm married to my trophies and PS games. I even prefer hulu plus/netflix/amazon video on my ps3 over my pc.
What would I do for everything else?(surfing, forums etc).
iPad on a stand with a bluetooth keyboard.
Post PC world baby
Really? I thought that was still a thing, damn. Haven't been in the SONY party for awhile now. still replace Bravia with whatever SONY television they are working with now.I don't think Bravia's has worked for Sony for a LOOOOOONG time.
It's really that weird of an idea. I mean TV's are going to be incorporating either On-live or the other service into TV's in the next year or two.
Then the next batch of consoles will have some kind of streaming service definitely. Maybe not at launch, but eventually. So...if that happens. Either you buy this console that is coming out or you buy a TV with it installed already.
And it ten years when a lot of people have those TV's, and those you don't have the console that streams? Why ever need another console to build a new user base and lose money on when you have a huge user base that can possibly be endless in game play techniques and graphic capabilities?
Streaming your game is great...in theory.
until they get DD right, consoles are basically garbage right now.
TV`s might incorporate shit like that yes, but incorporate a gaming console? Only Sony would do something like that and even them would also sell the console separately. They would never make a playstation only available through a particular TV.
"It doesn't mean you won't buy a piece of hardware from Sony, but you'll probably buy a television that streams the stuff. And you'll still have Sony, loud and proud and strong making these great, big, epic games like God of War and Uncharted, and they'll be making great little games like Sound Shapes, but they'll become more like movie studios for video games. I'll be able to stream in the next Uncharted and Plants vs Zombies and you won't even think about it. It'll just be like I can watch a public access show on my TV or I can watch Avatar."
LOL at pc.
Maybe the hardcore but I'm starting to regret my pc that i built a few years ago for gaming.
I took down my computer desk. moved the pc to next to the tv. Its just really an itunes server now, with some gaming. Some people are married to their xbl achievements, I'm married to my trophies and PS games. I even prefer hulu plus/netflix/amazon video on my ps3 over my pc.
What would I do for everything else?(surfing, forums etc).
iPad on a stand with a bluetooth keyboard.
Post PC world baby
But this is the thing, it is the last barrier and one that can come down in 10 years. People saying they want streaming now are nuts or rich or live in an awesome place or a combination of those, but in 10 years, when who knows how crazy fast internet will be? Hell yeah.
TV`s might incorporate shit like that yes, but incorporate a gaming console? Only Sony would do something like that and even them would also sell the console separately. They would never make a playstation only available through a particular TV. TV`s aren't like consoles. The market is completely different. People don't upgrade their TVs like they do phones, portable devices or consoles. Phones, Laptops and console are small(ish) and easy to get rid of which is why more people are inclined to upgrade them regularly, a TV...not so much. And plus, if you think consoles are expensive now, add the price of a TV to all that....no way in hell that's happening. They wanna reduce prices not add to it. And what, ill have to buy a new TV every time a new next gen console comes out? That will absolutely kill them.
But what if they integrate a thin client for something like OnLive for PC gaming? That could obviate the need for a branded console.
That thin client will eventually need upgrading one way or another, then what? Buy a new TV? And this make sense to you guys? I see a big failure in their future if they do that.
I hope it never comes that far. Will never support cloud gaming. Seriously, where is this going to? Will we even have to leave our houses in 10 years?
I miss the 90s. Fuck this.
That thin client will eventually need upgrading one way or another, then what? Buy a new TV? And this make sense to you guys? I see a big failure in their future if they do that.
That thin client will eventually need upgrading one way or another, then what? Buy a new TV? And this make sense to you guys? I see a big failure in their future if they do that.
Indeed. Technological advancement is nice and all. But everything becoming easier and effortless doesn't mean quality of life is improving. Buying that new Mario game in a dusty videogame store was something you and your friends had so much fun with. I remember literally counting down the days for Goldeneye on the N64 to come out. I had it preordered and the trip there and back home was just awesome. Clicking 'play' in an online shop won't result in any nice memories.
Oh well, no stopping it, sadly.
This is a pretty common statement from developers who've had to switch to mobile gaming, Romero said it a few years back. Funny how you don't hear the Call of Duty designers saying it..
But since they're going away in any case, wouldn't it be preferable to go out with a bang rather than a whimper?Requesting nextbox and ps4 to go "all out" (making super expensive machines) is asking for those platforms to kill themselves because they will become to expensive for the current market, unless they have to sell them at extreme losses.
so asking for those to go all out would be the wrong thing to say if you want another generation of consoles after nextbox/ps4
Latency, my good man, latency.What's actually fantastic about the streaming solution- once it is viable in enough parts of the world to make it profitable- is that you don't need to upgrade your hardware to get the best of breed visuals. How can folks who consider themselves core gamers not be going ape shit over that?!? How cool is it that you come home and play a new game and it looks better than any other game you've ever played because a) the team is fantastic so they made a great looking game and b) the team is building the game for a super ripped piece of hardware that only the streaming service has to own?!?
I didn't know Jaffe had a GAF account. Cool!Yeah, but:
a- I have not been forced to switch to mobile gaming (Jon was not either fwiw) and I still said it. Nor have I been forced to switch to PC/MAC gaming (which is actually what we're doing next).
b- Funny how some folks seem unable to read things and then comprehend them mere moments after they've read them. Sad state of affairs when people took what I said as me saying 'big budget mega games like CALL OF DUTY, GOD OF WAR, UNCHARTED, GEARS OF WAR' are going away. What's actually fantastic about the streaming solution- once it is viable in enough parts of the world to make it profitable- is that you don't need to upgrade your hardware to get the best of breed visuals. How can folks who consider themselves core gamers not be going ape shit over that?!? How cool is it that you come home and play a new game and it looks better than any other game you've ever played because a) the team is fantastic so they made a great looking game and b) the team is building the game for a super ripped piece of hardware that only the streaming service has to own?!?
David
It's not a gaming console if I can't play offline.
Yes, which is why I updated my idea. ha. I mean the service would be available on your tv, phone, tablet if those still exist, and maybe a little streaming box. I mean really look at your Xbox dashboard when it's unplugged from the internet. Doesn't do a damn thing except launch games. SO many services now. I really do think that you won't have a Xbox console anymore, just an Xbox "service".
And the service will have everything and be able to stream from a cloud onto an device you own from the cloud.
I have already thought about what if the next Xbox have 4G or maybe 5G built in? And you went to a carrier and bought the console for $50 and had a contract. Online play anywhere, free of your internet.
BAM, eventually no physical data and eventually all stream-able. Then it slowly moves into other devices.
Well eventually you're going to reach a point where hardware has advanced enough that you can have indistinguishable from real life graphics at like 120fps or something. At that point you wont need new hardware. I'd guess 20-30 years.
Though at that point we might have completely immersible virtual reality too...
Wii U not a console now? I knew it was a controller!
Yeah, but:
a- I have not been forced to switch to mobile gaming (Jon was not either fwiw) and I still said it. Nor have I been forced to switch to PC/MAC gaming (which is actually what we're doing next).
b- Funny how some folks seem unable to read things and then comprehend them mere moments after they've read them. Sad state of affairs when people took what I said as me saying 'big budget mega games like CALL OF DUTY, GOD OF WAR, UNCHARTED, GEARS OF WAR' are going away. What's actually fantastic about the streaming solution- once it is viable in enough parts of the world to make it profitable- is that you don't need to upgrade your hardware to get the best of breed visuals. How can folks who consider themselves core gamers not be going ape shit over that?!? How cool is it that you come home and play a new game and it looks better than any other game you've ever played because a) the team is fantastic so they made a great looking game and b) the team is building the game for a super ripped piece of hardware that only the streaming service has to own?!?
David
Latency, my good man, latency.
LOL at pc.
Maybe the hardcore but I'm starting to regret my pc that i built a few years ago for gaming.
I took down my computer desk. moved the pc to next to the tv. Its just really an itunes server now, with some gaming. Some people are married to their xbl achievements, I'm married to my trophies and PS games. I even prefer hulu plus/netflix/amazon video on my ps3 over my pc.
What would I do for everything else?(surfing, forums etc).
iPad on a stand with a bluetooth keyboard.
Post PC world baby