Any game that is originally planned to be console exclusive, obviously.
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Dead Rising 3 PC "optimized" for 30fps. User can uncap at own glitchy risk. Cacpcom.
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Wait, that could be cool though.
It's bad if it breaks gameplay, but if it enhances gameplay, I'm in.
neogaffer1
Banned
60 fps is fucking glorious, once you experience it anything that's 30 fps is noticeably different.
Having played 60 fps Batman, 60 fps Wolfenstein, 60 fps Bioshock: Infinite and 60 fps Dishonored and returning to TR
E XB1, a game I had already beaten before playing any of those games on PC, I found its locked 30 frame rate unbearable.It is a lot worse.
I don't really care, I just like this game. While 60FPS would be nice, I am guessing they would have to rework the entire engine and all the animations and everything else related to that. It might be not even be possible to do that as well, even if they had a budget to do it.
The same thing happened with Shadow Of The Colossus HD and when you run it in a emulator, did anyone ever fix it to run at 60FPS in the emulator?
Another recent PC port that this happened with was Jet Set Radio HD, I don't think anybody fixed that.
The same thing happened with Shadow Of The Colossus HD and when you run it in a emulator, did anyone ever fix it to run at 60FPS in the emulator?
Another recent PC port that this happened with was Jet Set Radio HD, I don't think anybody fixed that.
Netherscourge
Banned
Whelp... Whatever interest I had in the game just FLAT-LINED ____________________
TrueGrime
Member
This sounds like the Need for Speed 60 FPS bug that was eventually fixed but fuck this is some strange shit. LoL. Same thing happened in Titanfall for PC.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xcbNSwbpPU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xcbNSwbpPU
dragonlife
Member
WTF =/
I mean, not really, unless you're on a budget or time limit or anything of the sort (which this game might have been considering it was a launch title), or you're not that experienced with this sorta thing (dark souls, etc)
usually you cap according to how it performs, it's not like everyone reworks their physics engine and game logic when they port a game to the PC
also, considering Capcom is publishing on PC, there was also never a "it's only gonna be a console exclusive, ever" on their contract, clearly. They knew they were bringing it to the PC.
Chance Hale
Member
Depends on what they mean. Having a zombie arm go flying off farther than usual wouldn't really be a big deal.
Outside of Dark Souls, L.A. Noire(face tech) and Killer is Dead every console game that comes to PC seems to transition to 60 FPS without issues.
Problem with those fixes, you have to maintain a constant 60 fps at all times, else things come apart, you start lagging horribly.
Obviously there will be some issues. The question is, how bad will they be? Minor, major? I kinda doubt that they'd tell people ahead of time that a game they're about to release has major issues, ya know?
I'm guessing that, during development of the XO original, they wrote all the game logic to account for delta time and all that like most Western developers do but did all their testing with the 30fps cap in place. Because, for the XO release, why wouldn't they?
Now that it's time for a PC port, a budget is set, and they can only test so much, so they take the official stance that uncapped is unsupported, even if the game should be fine uncapped.
I understand being disappointed that Capcom wouldn't allow a budget big enough to test the game at 60fps, but I don't think this is a case of Dark Souls.
Green Biker Dude
Banned
i like how they admit it's a shit port before it even comes out
We dont know the contract situation. If anything, this strikes me as evidence that it wasn't planned to be a PC game.
Anyways, you're the expert game developer, not me. I'll take your word for it that all games are built with unlimited framerates in mind.
Like how From was warning people against running DS2 at 60 FPS because of those minor issues?
wait...
More like good developers dont hardcore their engines to framerate. This is something everyone learned at least a decade ago.
ieptbarakat
Member
So they tied game logic and animations to a framerate the console can hardly keep up with at times, all the while shooting themselves in the foot and limiting the potential experience of the game once better hardware comes out.
Who needs to future proof things anyways I guess.
Who needs to future proof things anyways I guess.
I mean you're saying a thing and im saying another. That's the way I understand it and always understood it.
in the end I just still don't like this and wouldnt expect it. that's what im complaining about. It shows as lazy. is it? I dont know, maybe they had tears of blood throughout development cause they just COULDNT do it, but i've got no way of knowing that, and it seems like a lazy thing.
one of us is giving capcom more credit and leverage (or benefit of the doubt) and one of us isnt, that's all there is to it
DS2 uses a new engine with a unlocked framerate up to 60FPS, even on PS3 and 360. It was built with that in mind and as such the PC port is excellent. They planned the development around the PC version.
jediyoshi
Member
But the distinction between NFSR and Dark Souls 1 is that they didn't let you do it period because it was explicitly gamebreaking and Titanfall did allow it, only at the expense of its vsync option.
But not being able to jump, walk or drive would.
Riposte
Member
What other games have they made that are like this?
What about RE6, DmC, Street Fighter IV...?
Chance Hale
Member
One imagines if any of those things were true the game wouldn't let you uncap it.
People tend to forget that most PC gamers have systems that are no where near considered "high end" ... Most PC gamers have lower mid range to mid range and i am being very generous in that estimation.
I havent looked at the May stats from Steam for the averages of what hardware steam users have but look at the link below and see for yourself. I think a lot of you will be surprised.
http://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey
I havent looked at the May stats from Steam for the averages of what hardware steam users have but look at the link below and see for yourself. I think a lot of you will be surprised.
http://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey
Doesn't say much, the average is skewed because of casual puzzle gamers and colladoody the likes. We'd need average statistics of gamers who play modern 3D games which are probably in the target group of Capcom.
Chance Hale
Member
The last two Call of Duty games have had full DX11 support and required decent to great(especially for Ghosts) PCs for max settings/60 FPS
COD is a weird thing to include in this post.
Reizo Ryuu
Member
Maybe, I run all of the resident evils at 30 because I simply like how it looks then, 60+ feels off for some reason, but I think they are mostly talking about physics related things here, like ragdolls going crazy.
Well, I was thinking about the older ones which basically would run on my smartphone in FullHD and probably are still being played by millions of players. And also by players who are fine with playing in 720p instead of 1080p because well, they are just in for the kill.
Wow! What a shame. This really killed the announcement for me - guess I'm not alone.
Even with the original plans for exclusivity, surely it'd be a good idea to make your game compatible with high frame rates. Maybe this is an issue with a pre-existing engine? I don't know much about the game though.
Even with the original plans for exclusivity, surely it'd be a good idea to make your game compatible with high frame rates. Maybe this is an issue with a pre-existing engine? I don't know much about the game though.
jediyoshi
Member
But was that also when you stopped looking at Capcom PC ports or sooner? Not rhetorical.
One of us is jumping to conclusions, one isn't.
I'm not saying they haven't been lazy about it. I just want evidence of it before I bash them.
If they know that there might be problems with running it at higher than 30FPS and yet don't fix it, they are lazy.
im just judging from what he says and the way he says it. I've been burned before and the whole "we dont know what might happen" thing sounds to me like "yeah it breaks in a few ways" and he's covering his ass. he mentions physics and zombies specifically.
innocent till proven guilty <> guilty till proven innocent
I did change this from the OP:
to this:
so, yeah. I dont intend to assume, im just interpreting stuff. the OP is the facts
Dog Problems
Banned
Depending on what's going on with the DLC, especially that pack that was just released, I may just wait and play this when I get an Xbox One and buy the PC version when it's really cheap.
Chance Hale
Member
It doesn't say in that video on the last page that animations are locked to 30. When the game turns out perfectly fine I'm sure everyone will feel real silly
Why? The PC version will be cheaper via GMG(coupon) or traders if it goes up without a region lock. Steady 30 FPS with resolutions up 4K is still a lot better than what the One version offers.