This seems like the early mmo stages where you have basic attacks and 1 or 2 abilities. I expect my sanity to unravel as they reveal more and more ways to make combat fun and varied.
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Destiny Alpha Thread: Impressions from the wild [Code Begging=ban]
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This seems like the early mmo stages where you have basic attacks and 1 or 2 abilities. I expect my sanity to unravel as they reveal more and more ways to make combat fun and varied.
ElRenoRaven
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Yup. I have a ton of fun with the Strike. I see myself playing those a lot. When you play it on Legend it's insane. Tough as hell but fun. I can't wait to play it on even harder difficulties though. That's how much fun I had playing the strike. In fact I think I'll play it again tonight.
Oh BTW for those worried about microtransactions. There are none right now. Where Bungie is going to make money is going to be the DLC be they maps for Crucible, expansions, etc. That's where they're going to get their money from. Course who knows what the future has in store. The game really truly though isn't set up to microtransaction you to death like they easily could have. I really like that they did not go that route.
Duxxy3
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Wow - another game without the option to change aim and fire.
From reddit, gameplay looks pretty fun when a competent player is playing. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4cNLklMix8&feature=youtu.be
ComputerMKII
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Does the game require grinding? I won't buy it if it does
GOOD, GOOD.
Poker Face
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...what?
AllIsOneIsNone
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Even if the multiplayer doesn't match Halos awesomeness, keep in mind how entangled it is into the campaign. Most "mmo" type games have pvp with wretched combat but they're still fun as hell to play because of the character customization/consistency.
The Librarian
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I said this before, but I think the gameplay feedback could use another pass. Some of the bigger enemies, like Fallen Tanks or Sepiks Prime, while fun to fight against, feel too much like bullet sponges at times. I really like exaggerated feedback I want to be able to tell how close I am to killing an enemy without a healthbar and I feel Destiny's could be ramped up a bit more. Though you need to know certain stuff like how high an enemy is because their level may be too high for weapons to have any effect.
The healthbars can get annoying sometimes, seeing as how there can be many enemies on the screen.
I can see people's complaints about the VA, but it's...okay. I think it grows on you. He doesn't seem to be phoning it in, more going for something very specific at times. It's hard to explain.
When you go off into a Strike or a Story mission, or when you go into certain parts of Old Russia, you get isolated from everyone else so that only you and your team can participate. You can tell when it's happening. It's a really smooth transition.
Never played WoW, so can't answer. What do you mean?
one of my big issues with exploring old russia is that the zones don't feel designed for specific levels. I know that its because they dont want places to be empty, but you'll see level 11 enemies and level 4 enemies in the same location. Theres a lot of spaces designated for DLC that are in areas with weaker enemies, but it's somewhat jarring. I think this will be resolved in the full game with the planets being designed more for higher levels, but it's still a bit strange.
ElRenoRaven
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Oh one more thing. I've had to hold my tongue for a long while on this. The speculated force push someone saw a warlock do. That's our melee. It will melt a face if you get too damn close lol. Each class has a unique look to their melees. Hunters use a knife, Titans punch, and Warlock's do this magic like punch thing. It's really cool.
No. The level/content curve seems to be closely glued together, thankfully.
ElRenoRaven
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Well I think part of that is done to keep us out of certain areas at the moment. I managed to get pretty far up in one around the Forgotten Shore and I could see some graphical glitches and a lower level of decorating. So I think those are areas that they are probably working on. If that doesn't change though then yea I would have to agree.
I Big JG I
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Thank You Dax!!!! Enjoy
RSB
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I've seen that video of the control schemes (thanks FyreWulff) and I don't like any of them. Jumper is the closest one to BJ, and it still is nowhere near perfect.
Please Bungie, add a classic control scheme. At least a classic Bumper Jumper option. Basically like this:
LS: Crouch
RS: ADS
L2: Grenade
L1: Jump
R2: Shoot
R1: Melee
Triangle: Switch Weapon
Circle: Action/Reload
Cross: Sprint
Square: Ability
Please Bungie.
Please Bungie, add a classic control scheme. At least a classic Bumper Jumper option. Basically like this:
LS: Crouch
RS: ADS
L2: Grenade
L1: Jump
R2: Shoot
R1: Melee
Triangle: Switch Weapon
Circle: Action/Reload
Cross: Sprint
Square: Ability
Please Bungie.
Thanks for the impressions, folks. I'm pretty excited to play myself on Thursday whenever the general population code drop happens (or hey, you know...if generosity strikes).
The MP stuff is all really interesting to me. I kind of know what to expect out of the PvE environment, great Bungie AI with great Bungie combat that I've spent hundreds of hours with already. But their new multiplayer philosophies? I don't know if I'm all that excited for what it actually is, but I am pretty excited for them to do something that isn't bound by my expectations of a Halo game - they can go off-the-rails entirely and there's real justification for doing so. I knew exactly what I wanted out of Halo, and any deviation from that was pretty easily met with a comparison to my ideal. With something new, that doesn't exist - there's new context for everything, which is a really cool place to be in as a fan.
Unfortunately I can't watch anything until I'm out of the office, but I'm glad the embargo lifted for sure.
The MP stuff is all really interesting to me. I kind of know what to expect out of the PvE environment, great Bungie AI with great Bungie combat that I've spent hundreds of hours with already. But their new multiplayer philosophies? I don't know if I'm all that excited for what it actually is, but I am pretty excited for them to do something that isn't bound by my expectations of a Halo game - they can go off-the-rails entirely and there's real justification for doing so. I knew exactly what I wanted out of Halo, and any deviation from that was pretty easily met with a comparison to my ideal. With something new, that doesn't exist - there's new context for everything, which is a really cool place to be in as a fan.
Unfortunately I can't watch anything until I'm out of the office, but I'm glad the embargo lifted for sure.
Do you happen to know if there's a level cap in place for the alpha, by any chance? I wonder how far they'll let people get in the character progression.
The Librarian
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Yeah. There are some areas of Old Russia I've yet to explore because the enemies occupying the area have levels too high. Makes me want to go back for more.
How does loot and xp work for this scenario? If you're just out in the wild and you see someone else shooting a bad guy and you go and put a couple bullets in the same bad guy what happens? Split xp? You each get your own loot? Does the first person "tag" the enemy as theirs and you just help them if you want but they get all the rewards?
I think I might be in the minority on the VA - it might not sound cheerful but it does sound like a character with a distinct personality, which is more important to me.
I've never played it either - only watched a friend stream it - but the gigantic bosses require a degree of coordination and pre-planning in order to be successful. That kind of depth in encounters really appeals to me.
Really looking forward to Destiny and giving it a go, of course that means I won't get an alpha code. Seeing The Crucible menu just now and plenty of the Tower (not to mention lots of the actual FPS & Exploring earlier)... it looks like a classic in the making here.
Everyone should just take an hour off and enjoy the GiantBomb video: http://www.giantbomb.com/videos/unfinished-destiny-06-06-2014/2300-8971/
Everyone should just take an hour off and enjoy the GiantBomb video: http://www.giantbomb.com/videos/unfinished-destiny-06-06-2014/2300-8971/
yeah.
To add to that, the melee and grenades are very much spells in their own right. It's a very nice system when you consider it as such. Grenades as well, at different levels they have different abilities, you may even chose to keep a lower level version of your grenade because you like the result more then than the higher level. Some grenades are great for zoning spaces (the level 2 hunter grenade for example or the warlock dot grenade), other have additional effects, like the titan's does a blind/cc effect on enemies.
ElRenoRaven
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You know I'll be honest. I was very worried going in. I'd read the rumors everyone else had. I was worried it would feel way too alien. I'm the type of guy that sticks to team slayer. I actually found myself enjoying the mode they have and the gameplay. Even when I was getting my ass kicked which was a lot I was enjoying myself. I don't see this game being an everyone wins type game multiplayer wise. The better players will without a doubt destroy us folks who aren't uber. There is a clear method to the madness is the best way I can put it.
I'm not a breh, buddy.
But yes, I'm afraid I've got to agree. You've got a great body of work though. Don't feel down. Believe in yourself!
<and that's the last I can say because I don't want to derail the thread>
ElRenoRaven
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Yup. That's why I find it hard to really call them grenades. Thanks to the talent system you can really change how "grenades" work. For example Warlock can hurl one decent ball like sized one out that lingers and does damage. If we upgrade however we can throw out one that splits into 3 of them to do more area damage. So they really aren't grenades even though they function like them. I hope that makes sense.
extremely deep from what I've seen from vendors.
At level 20 you can purchase armor shaders to let you customize the colour of your armor, weapons have unique upgrade trees with different scopes that offer different advantages, like faster reloadingg or less recoil, ships and strike have different variations with the same stats, theres a nice mix of character customization in character creation from normal tones to bright pink, blue and orange, you can make a character look like a japanese pop star or make them look like someone walking down the street.
Character building at the start, collect loot for all the stuff later. It may as well be an MMO, it has all the hallmarks.
ElRenoRaven
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It's not super deep. You can pick from a couple heads, then a couple different hair styles and features. Then you can customize colors. That's pretty much it. This is not an mmo. It's more a quasi MMO. You never see more then about 12 to 16 players at a time in any area. However it will fill in players in an area when others leave. So it's like an always on match making. In each map you have what are called public spaces and then private spaces.
Take the strike. When you start you start in a public space. You can see other players and interact. You can do a public event if it pops up. However once you get to a certain point the other players fade away and you're on your own. Just you and your fireteam members. So it almost feels like one but it very much isn't.
The Librarian
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Hey dude. Sorry if I gave you the wrong idea. I remember seeing a control scheme that was close to Bumper Jumper. Didn't know you were looking for that specific type.
If you want to better succeed and kick ass in Strike and Story missions, teamwork is definitely needed. Free-roam not so much cause you're exploring!
This makes the game look fun (and, similar to Halo).
Perfect Cha0s
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Yeah, I was extremely interested before, but this Giant Bomb vid is doing a really good job of selling me on it.
Canis lupus
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People are already getting admitted in the alpha?
I can start a stream and show off different vendors in the tower if anyone is interested.
friends and family have had access since wednesday.
friends and family have had access since wednesday.
ElRenoRaven
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No you can't. You really end up not noticing them after awhile. I myself would like to see them gone but once it was explained why they have them I understand. But yea they're there to stay. Keep in mind though that's based off current build. Now down the road Bungie could change their minds and allow you to choose or take them away. As it is right now though that's pretty set in stone though it seems.
RSB
Banned
I'm watching Ninja, and I've noticed when he's using the sniper the reticle stays completely bloomed all the time.
Does that mean what I think it means? Does the game force you to use the scope for accuracy? Or am I wrong, and you can still no-scope like in Halo?
Does that mean what I think it means? Does the game force you to use the scope for accuracy? Or am I wrong, and you can still no-scope like in Halo?
Don't worry, if you don't use Bumper Jumper it's undestandable you didn't notice. Thanks again.
Great impressions man.
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