Chaos2Frozen
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So...What you're saying is, Destiny is still smaller than both of them?
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Destiny: Only one area per planet
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So...What you're saying is, Destiny is still smaller than both of them?
Dalibor_San
Member
I hate to beat a dead horse...however Cross-Gen games are a bane,the whole purpose for new hardware is for bigger more detailed worlds and gameplay, yet cross-gen is just screwing everything up.
This is a result of that, I'm sure they could of achieved that but not when you have to cater for the XBOX 360/PS3,oh well hopefully Destiny 2 steps it up.
I'm still Interested however I can now dial down my expectations and wait for the first price-drop, there are too many games this year.
Principate
Saint Titanfall
That's not what they're doing. If what you describe was what they're actually doing then they would be talking about Mist of Pandaria (as in up to that point) content. They're not. The expansion talk may be asinine but the launch talk is not.
I forgot when Bungie said this was an MMO
Nightengale
Member
Grimløck;122868412 said:
Vanguard related reputation and stuff appears to be all PvE.
Interficium
Banned
It's nice to want things.
Borderlands did.....
Edit: ok maybe not 150, but it definitely seems more vast than Destiny. I can wait to jump in.
but we don't know if the other planets will have a bigger area since Earth is like the beginner planet
Considering PS4 is lead platform and launching day and date with the Xbox versions I'll take that contract with a grain of salt.
See? This is why I don't pre order games.
Glad I didn't. there are just far better options coming out this fall in terms of longevity.
I did the amazon switch (pre-order cancel 0.00 charge) to play it, got my fill, found out that the full game isn't much more, and I ain't even mad because the game wasn't officially 'pre-ordered'.
Game is good. But I expected more.
Glad I didn't. there are just far better options coming out this fall in terms of longevity.
I did the amazon switch (pre-order cancel 0.00 charge) to play it, got my fill, found out that the full game isn't much more, and I ain't even mad because the game wasn't officially 'pre-ordered'.
Game is good. But I expected more.
JetBlackPanda
Member
I think I must be confused.
I don't think it's fair at all to compare a mmo with years of expansions to a launch MMO.
The launch game will always seem small.
Sorry it's early morning for me and my kid is sick and I've been up all night.
Nocturno999
Member
Post of the week.
Seems like this is it.
We still dont know what is behind that Vanguard icon on the map.
JetBlackPanda
Member
Dude what games are you gonna play this fall and winter? I want some of that longevity.
Interficium
Banned
You and me both, brother. Time to get a wii u anyway...
@jetblackpanther.. Look above.
Principate
Saint Titanfall
NP they're comparing launch wow as in day 1 wow to predicted day 1 destiny which I believe is a fair comparison much like day 1 everquest is a fair comparison and day 1 gw2. (outside the fact they're comparing fully fledged mmo's to one that's clearly not).
You don't, that's what people should have expected. People who expected more underestimate the size and excruciating amount of detail that went into Old Russia's design (something that would be incredibly hard to replicate 10 - 20 times or whatever the hell people wanted).
Personally I thought it was obvious just by looking at the universe map that there would only be around 5 planets. Bungie would really have to go out of their way to hide the idea of there being more areas per planet in the beta, it was never likely. Plus they clearly click on Venus in the extended trailer and it acts the same way it does in the beta; there's no area choice given to the player, it just zooms in and gives you one map of the one area. They were never trying to trick you or subvert expectations, but they do want to surprise you. The problem here happens when people expect a surprise of double or triple the game content, which isn't Bungie's fault.
What I don't expect is to spend 600+ hours on this game like an mmo, because despite its game design that clearly focuses on mmorpg aspects, it's still far from an mmo in its arcitecture.
No wonder they dont call it a MMO. Like its much much harder to make a good 50hours+ shooter compared to a good 50hours+ RPG it is also harder to make a MMOFPS with the amount of content you would expect from a MMORPG.
People will rush through the pve content in some days and at the end is just pvp + grind gear.
People will rush through the pve content in some days and at the end is just pvp + grind gear.
Did you even read my edit?
I put 90 hours into BL2. I don't see the same happening with Destiny is all this is true.
Chaos2Frozen
Member
The solar system is a pretty big place, 8 planets, 176 moons, and a gazillion asteroids.
Ivory Samoan
Gold Member
Now this, this I agree with.
No Man's Sky is one of those games that I really really want to be deep.. but I'm just not seeing it.
In regards to Destiny, let's wait for the final game before we freak etc.
Longevity is probably the least of Destiny's problems. Even if we don't get as many locations as we hoped for it's still gonna be a 100+ ride. I have no doubt of that.
Cancelling the game based on these news make me wonder what kind of game people were expecting, because we knew all along that it wasn't an MMO.
Interficium
Banned
Why would we do that when we can start immediately lumping our unrealistic expectations onto the next thing coming down the pike like No Man's Sky, Xenoblade X, Mass Effect 4, etc.
I agree. My question is how long can you really play in old russia before the scenery gets old?
EDIT: also, they may have events like Gw2/PSO2 that change things up a bit, but it is still the same ol' scenery.
UnluckyKate
Member
At this rate destiny campaign according to beta content for one planet, I doubt te so will last more than 20 hours and I hardly doubt bungle and activision delivering the quality and challenge that bl2 main addons offered for te price.
Principate
Saint Titanfall
See I doubt get this argument. It's probably just salt. But I got a similar playtime from Titanfall and that game was ripped to shreds. It seems you must play the game foe several months for that argument to work.
everyday math
Banned
No it didn't not even close.
Interficium
Banned
.....what?
90 hours without addons or traditional PvP is a lot. I forgot my exact play time before I posted and edited within a minute to correct my mistake. Calm down everyone.
I'm bored with Destiny and it took less than 15 hours.
Quality challenge to him seems to be health tanks that insta-kill you.
or the Fallen are actually Russians. Why would you have to fight a guy named Rasputin? I doubt some aliens would call themselves that. So basically the Empire of Darkness (Russia) consumed all of Earth and now we just have one area with rusty ships.
Alll of those are on next gen or more of they are not held back by last gen stupidy that has slowed us down since 2009.
Doomshroom
Member
Well thats just you. I put maybe 30 hours into Borderlands 2 but i quit playing ti because the gameplay was boring the Co-op was crap with shared loot and dupers. I see myself putting more then 90 hours on the strikes alone but thats just me.
Alcoholikaust
Member
numerically yes-but your skills improve at a much slower rate. ever check your abillities menu? I finally filled most the bottom row of abillities for my warlock after~ 16 hours with the game. that's not bad IMO
I think that the reason why people are upset about this is that the levels in the Beta seem much smaller than a regular set piece in Reach. The Russian beta world felt like half the size of a level in Reach.
Fortunately for me, I'm only concerned with finding armor and weapons that are strong and look cool that put me ahead of the competition in multiplayer. I plan on spending most of my time there.
Fortunately for me, I'm only concerned with finding armor and weapons that are strong and look cool that put me ahead of the competition in multiplayer. I plan on spending most of my time there.
Ivory Samoan
Gold Member
I wasn't saying it doesn't have depth (as I obviously don't know), I was saying it's a game I'm wanting to like but they haven't shown me enough to get my hyped.
Now Mass Effect 4....that's a different story: I will always lump unrealistic expectations on my beloved ME franchise as it's my j'adore, and it deserves all the hype train it can handle.
evanswolves
Member
Is this game going to have anything like the TVHM in Borderlands?
I don't really see any problem. I've spend 15-20 hours in the beta so far, most of it on the Old Russia map. There are still some areas off limit atm, so we don't really know the definite size of the map, and if we get 5 planets of roughly this size it's big enough for me. Add replayable raids and crucible and other MP events, and levelling multiple specializations for every class and this game is going to keep me entertained for quite some time.
Nocturno999
Member
I think Bungie should adopt the Guild Wars model and add more content with some minor vanity DLC and expansion packs.
I think the game is going to be worth the price tag but definitely is not the epic adventure they promised where your grandsons will continue your game file like they were implying long ago.
I think the game is going to be worth the price tag but definitely is not the epic adventure they promised where your grandsons will continue your game file like they were implying long ago.
NG+? Don't see why'd you need it since you would likely cap out before finishing the game.
Chaos2Frozen
Member
[Rasputin] is the Warmind AI that helped protect Earth from the Darkness.