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Deus Ex: Mankind Divided PC performance thread
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Yeah you're right, never mind!
I have a 770m and have to run everything on low and AA off and at 1080p it's still slightly choppy
White Wolf
Member
these loading times take soooo fuckingggg looooong
stump sock
Member
has anybody who has had a lot of random crashes found a successful fix yet?
It is there's also the matter of shadow LOD, so while the quality difference may not be as high as you want you'd get harsher and more noticeable cascades.
Thx, sounds good. I guess I will get a small FPS boost since I will play in 1080p.
Collateral22
Member
Kinda fixed my loading times and crashes (I think)
- Verified files in Steam
- Stopped using continue, instead load manually (gives different loading screen too)
- Disabled all DLC
Loads in less than 20 seconds now. Using Continue still gives me 1+ minute load times and crashes.
- Verified files in Steam
- Stopped using continue, instead load manually (gives different loading screen too)
- Disabled all DLC
Loads in less than 20 seconds now. Using Continue still gives me 1+ minute load times and crashes.
perseusveil
Member
Is anyone else getting huge framerate drops in the area coming out of Monument Station and heading right? I go from 70s/80s just about anywhere else in Prague to dipping down into the 30s walking in that area.
Also huge hitching issues in Golem City. Afterburner says it's using less than 7GB of RAM buuuut...
Everything maxed except for Shadows (High) and AO (On) at 1080p.
Specs:
Processor : Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-6500 CPU @ 3.20GHz
Memory: 8GB 3000hz DDR4 RAM
GPU: GTX 1070
Also huge hitching issues in Golem City. Afterburner says it's using less than 7GB of RAM buuuut...
Everything maxed except for Shadows (High) and AO (On) at 1080p.
Specs:
Processor : Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-6500 CPU @ 3.20GHz
Memory: 8GB 3000hz DDR4 RAM
GPU: GTX 1070
I was just there exactly. I'm playing V-sync'd, I think it dropped a single frame when running from the station through that street (read 58.9 instead of 59.9 for a split second).
(Of course, I'm running a 6 core CPU and 32 GB of memory)
Interesting. How do you disable DLC, just untick them in Steam?
Going to try this now, as well as manual load over continue.
dr_rus
Member
No MSAA, just Ultra preset with 2560x1600 res (although I don't think that the res or MSAA affect the RAM consumption - at least it shouldn't). If you don't have anything running in the background you will probably be fine on a 16GB machine but if you like to have some browser open with several tabs - there can be issues I think. Not fatal issues of course but some slowdowns and hitches.
How much RAM do you have? Reloading is very fast for me, initial loadings are kinda slow but acceptable (i.e. less than 30 seconds I believe). I'm running off a 7200rpm HDD.
What a shit port. It's my opinion and you might disagree but :
- absurdly demanding settings for little image quality value, DOOM looks much better and runs like a dream
- I am fucked because I only have 8gb RAM ... so if I want to buy the pc version, I also have to spend 100 for 16GB of RAM ?! Yeah right ...
- Settings just don't work ?! Shadows are messed up if you go higher than high ..
- Very bad AO
I might as well just buy the PS4 version at this rate...
Even though I have a 980 ti , and a 4790K ... ridiculous.
- absurdly demanding settings for little image quality value, DOOM looks much better and runs like a dream
- I am fucked because I only have 8gb RAM ... so if I want to buy the pc version, I also have to spend 100 for 16GB of RAM ?! Yeah right ...
- Settings just don't work ?! Shadows are messed up if you go higher than high ..
- Very bad AO
I might as well just buy the PS4 version at this rate...
Even though I have a 980 ti , and a 4790K ... ridiculous.
Most of the settings have a significant image quality value. In any case, even if they did not, having an option is never a negative. No one forces you to use it.
You are not "fucked", you just can't run the game at maximum settings.
As per the above, no you don't. Also, 16 GB of memory are ~60€ right now.
One of the settings does not work ideally in a few situations.
It's not "very bad". More like average.
Right. The version which runs at 30 FPS (with some drops), and still at lower settings than what you could achieve on your system at higher framerates. With the "worst" version of the "bad" AO. And terrible sharpening that you can't turn off. Whatever, go ahead.
I have sharp_strength at 0.7 and the rest at default. I think you can edit the values on the fly and alt-tab back into game to see how it looks like.
Game is apparently prone to crash with 8gb of RAM so yes I consider it obligatory to buy more RAM.
anyone getting some hitching and stuttering with the ingame vsync? i dont get it with vsync completely off. not tried using nvidia control panel vsync yet.
i think the taa aa causes that.
i think the taa aa causes that.
RenderJosh
Member
While DOOM "runs better" (having some of the best engineers in the team might help), saying that it looks much better than Mankind Divided is hyperbolic as hell. id's engineers are not stupid, they made a game and levels that will need as few things going on as possible, and they optimize the game having that in mind. It is part of the explanation why DOOM runs so well.
Mankind Divided is something else, being a semi-openworld with events happening in it, many way to deal with a situation (more complex level-design might means more geometry to render for example, even if it should not be a primary issue), many IAs to deal with...
And while I absolutely love DOOM, especially its presentation as a whole when in motion, it would be again more than hyperbolic to state that DOOM is out of reach for Mankind Divided. I prefer the lighting, shading and environnements complexity of Mankind Divided, and I prefer DOOM's most post processing effects (motion blur, bokeh DoF, TSSAA, even if the one in Mankind Divided is pretty great too and provide a great overall IQ). The two games are top notch technically speaking, why opposing them like that in the first place ?
Mankind Divided is not in a perfect state, hence the problems with shadows rendering in the distance if CHS is activated, the not greatly tweaked "Very High" option for AO and its artifacts in the distance...
It is not perfect, yes, but does it deserve to be bashed like that ? Definitely not.
(PS : You might have problems with your RAM quantity only when pushing the settings close to the max. I suggest you to tune down the LoD setting. Anyway, the game asked for 16Go of RAM for max setting, so it is not like you should be surprised in the first place)
That review from bit-tech is actually a MSI Gaming X version against reference RX 480 and I find it hard to believe in that techspot review that the GTX 970 beating both R9 390 and RX 480 in Mirror's Edge Catalyst at hyper settings. The GTX 970 defaulted to the Ultra setting instead due to its memory limit, silently decreasing image quality, appearing to have superior performance. The "GPU Memory Restriction" should be left unchecked for accurate results.
Look at this video : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bm5ZCJah-FY
IlGialloMondadori
Member
Having a weird issue - using headphones, if i'm looking directly at someone, the audio is muffled, like it's meant for a centre channel. If I turn my head, their voice comes in fine. I have my PC set for stereo...any help?
Well, in certain circumstances, if you have a GPU with low VRAM, it can dip into your system RAM, and then, finally, the pagefile. This can cause stuttering. And I didn't even know running browsers (or anything) in the background while playing a demanding game was a thing. Sure, if you have a second monitor, you may want to multitask, but come on people, what you do you expect? Of course it's going to have a detrimental performance impact
I've got multiple tabs open on Firefox at the moment, and I'm using close to 400 MB of RAM on that alone (and that's without any flash content/videos going).Anyway, I just looked at my Afterburner RAM readout after my recent play session (with no other programs running in the background), and I peaked at 10250 MB. Sustained average looked to be about 9 GB.
But I SEE nothing justifying the amount of RAM. So to me, this is bad optimization or a bad engine. Compare this to the draw distance of Blood and Wine for example.
mysocksarepink
Banned
just hopping in but whats the consensus of a 980ti + 6700k @ 1440p?
No it's Subscattering that causes the blurry faces, tesselation makes the bricks look 3d
Interesting, I'll have to try disabling tessellation. I thought I did, but I'll try again. I already tried disabling subsurface, did nothing.
And no, TAA doesn't cause the face smearing issue; happens with TAA on or off.
CertifiedFP
Member
Huge Succeeded
Banned
I can hardly bring myself to play this game right now, it runs TERRIBLY for me.
i7-4770k/980 Ti here, 60 fps 90-95% of the time @1440p if you set it like this (sans motion blur, chromatic aberration, sharpen, etc, as they are a preference):
You currently aren't missing anything with Very High Shadow Quality, Very High AO, or Contact Hardening Shadows at the moment; they're bugged.
Volumetric Lighting Ultra has better filtering over "On," but has about a 10 fps performance impact for it in affected scenes.
I was a bit disappointed with the cloth flailing on the wind in the prologue. I put a box on top of the cloth. Guess what happened? It keep flailing through the box, as if the box was not a physical object but a hologram. So this is really just a canned animation, not a real physic interaction with the world. Pity.
According to DF, consoles version are running on settings approximate to PC's high. Pity you cant turn off the (uber)sharpening filter.
According to DF, consoles version are running on settings approximate to PC's high. Pity you cant turn off the (uber)sharpening filter.
Is anyone else getting a lot of out of memory crashes? I've been getting one pretty much every hour or less of gameplay, especially if I'm moving between areas a lot.
I have 8 gigs of ram and Task Manager usually doesn't show the game using more than 3. I don't know what's going on.
I have 8 gigs of ram and Task Manager usually doesn't show the game using more than 3. I don't know what's going on.
Nastrodamous
Member
seems like it, most of the time for hacking some of the nodes seem to be offscreen.
Anyone?
Really curious if 6700K users are not with their CPU maxed out.
@Durante: Which CPU do you have? 5920K? How's your usage?
Soren01
Member
Very bad is exaggeration.
I have a 1080p monitor as well. The post-process AA method the use does a good job of cleaning up the image, but I still suggest using Nvidia DSR to downsample and improve IQ.
Without hyperthreading my cores sits at about 70% usage across all cores at larger areas.
Which is a good thing? Means there's room to spare.
Arrgg, @Sykotik is 100% correct, disabling tessellation does resolve the smearing face issue. I never tried that setting, because I never thought a setting like that would affect it.
If you or anyone wants to test this themselves, the worst offender of the issue I've seen is this guy near the lobby in the Palisade Bank:
What is up with the settings conflicts in this game?
I guess you could say, man it's kinda divided.
Touché.
To get better shadows, disable Contact Hardening Shadows and set shadows to high instead of very high.
To get prevent oversharpening, disable sharpening.
To get better AO, set to On instead of Very High
To get playable performance, disable MSAA.
To prevent blurring on faces, disable tesselation.
What next?
To get prevent oversharpening, disable sharpening.
To get better AO, set to On instead of Very High
To get playable performance, disable MSAA.
To prevent blurring on faces, disable tesselation.
What next?
RenderJosh
Member
TAA was definitely causing artifacts issues at
the first encounter with Marchenko
Some of my cores got to 45/50% maximum maybe, and only on certains cores such as the first one that seems to be, as usual, under the heaviest load. Definitely not 100%.
We can't know for sure what is going on behind the scenes unless we have a look at the engine itself. And it will not happen. Comparing two games' RAM consumption solely on their technical achievements is somehow far-fetched. Having less important draw distances is not necessarily equal to less RAM usage (FYI, Blood&Wine uses nearly as much RAM as Mankind Divided for me...).
And for what I remember, The Witcher 3 is not exactly a loading time champion (HDD here hehe) and while reloading time after death are not that long, they are definitely longer than in Mankind Divided that 3-4 seconds long on my side.
To get better shadows, disable Contact Hardening Shadows and set shadows to high instead of high.
To get prevent oversharpening, disable sharpening.
To get better AO, set to On instead of Very High
To get playable performance, disable MSAA.
To prevent blurring on faces, disable tesselation.
What next?
Sounds about right. I'm personally just going to play something else until most of these issues have been addressed.
This is why I wish Nvidia's GeForce Experience would get Mankind Divided in its game optimizations sooner rather than later.
I always let it optimize my games for me - and then turn down the optimization scale from "10" to '8" to enjoy a locked 60fps.