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[omonimo]

the texture thing is a glitch, this should easily get fixed on the 360 with a title update.

Will be interesting to see if DF revisits after the eventual title updates to see the differences.



There's a few others mentioned in the article though they're not as big ..

- 360 has better reflection on indoor mirrors
- 360 has better frame rate in in-engine scenes.
- PS3 can randomly pull out more frames in action scenes, it flip flops on either.

... I don't call it exactly a glitch.

 

[Cataferal]

This is an issue when played from either disc or HDD install.

It's simply the case that some 360 ground textures don't ever load in to the same quality as PS3 during cut-scenes, and those directly in front of the player when standing still.

 

[VibratingDonkey]

It's often obvious how mushy the 360 textures are while playing.
It can often look really bad:

Disappointing, hope it can be fixed.

I hope they just forgot to enable anisotropic filtering.

 

[Tricky I Shadow]

It's often obvious how mushy the 360 textures are while playing.
It can often look really bad:

Disappointing, hope it can be fixed.

Whoa, that’s pretty bad. Haven’t seen anything like that in the PS3 version.

 

[Zornack]

Then you don't understand at all. Read it again, it's pretty clear.

Both discs installed = great difference, large streaming issue for the 360.

One disc installed = small difference, pretty much the same, but PS3 still has better ground textures.

 

[mocoworm]

Another thing I was impressed by was the skin shading. This is the first game I've seen that has done it right. Looks like they're using something like sub-surface scatting.

erm ... I sure hope not.

 

[Vire]

This is an issue when played from either disc or HDD install.

It's simply the case that some 360 ground textures don't ever load in to the same quality as PS3 during cut-scenes, and those directly in front of the player when standing still.

If that is the case, why would you write this?

Running straight from disc, then, there's little to distinguish the PS3 and 360 releases when it comes to environmental detail

Simply put, having both discs installed to the 360's HDD appears to create a bottleneck for the engine as it attempts to draw these assets from the same source, but playing straight from disc gives us comparable results to PS3.

You should revise your article as it is rather poorly written.

 

[Krilekk]

OK I'm confused...at the end of the article he said this:



So are the streaming issues fixed with playing from the disc as R* suggested or not?

Sure looks like they didn't rework the whole article after receiving word yesterday about how to fix streaming issues. Installing Disk 1 in HDD and Disk 2 on USB seems to beat every other solution. No streaming issues for me.

 

[adamsapple]

... I don't call it exactly a glitch.

You don't, but DF mentions that it looks like a streaming glitch multiple times.

 

[Hato-kun]

Glad I got PS3 version, I was super torn.

 

[Windom Earle]

Then you don't understand at all. Read it again, it's pretty clear.

Nope, the parts you are quoting are out of another paragraph of the article.

These images:
http://images.eurogamer.net/2013/articles//a/1/6/1/6/3/1/6/360_112.bmp.jpg
http://images.eurogamer.net/2013/articles//a/1/6/1/6/3/1/6/PS3_112.bmp.jpg

It's a different issue than the blurry textures.

 

[flipswitch]

erm ... I sure hope not.

iOS thought that was the right word, don't blame me

Spoiler

i need to proof read

 

[nib95]

Then you don't understand at all. Read it again, it's pretty clear.

I think you're confusing texture streaming issues (which happen even without the install of the second disk, and instead simply with the mandatory install of disk 1 alone) with the issues that occur with the install of disc 2, which cause additional issues such as "the frequency of geometry and texture pop-in during quickly-cut cinematics". I think the latter is what is sorted out playing from the disc, whilst the texture streaming issues are there regardless.

 

[VibratingDonkey]

Then you don't understand at all. Read it again, it's pretty clear.

He's talking about a different issue with that. One that makes objects pop in when the game can't load assets from both disc and HDD at once.

 

[omonimo]

If that is the case, why would you write this?





You should revise your article as it is rather poorly written.

But when ps3 lose the face off they are quite valid, right? What a coincidence.

 

[Brera]

What a way for this generation to end. Both versions at parity with PS3 edging it.

GG Rockstar

 

[adamsapple]

But when ps3 lose the face off they are quite valid, right? What a coincidence.

christ dude give it a rest lol, you're in all the DF comparison topics with this same nonsense.

 

[Metfanant]

You should revise your article as it is rather poorly written.

its actually written just fine and quite easy to understand...you're just confusing two different things...

1. The blurry ground textures: Worse on the 360...does not matter if you install disc two or not...PS3 better...no way to avoid it

2. Geometry/texture pop-in: Happens when you install disc 2 to the 360's HDD...you can avoid this by not installing disc 2 to the HDD...or APPARENTLY by installing it to a USB drive...basically as long as disc 1 and disc 2 are not installed in the same spot...

 

[omonimo]

christ dude give it a rest lol, you're in all the DF comparison topics with this same nonsense.

Yeah right, of course. A nonsense.

 

[paischtu]

Still like more fps than textures

 

[Vire]

its actually written just fine and quite easy to understand...you're just confusing two different things...

1. The blurry ground textures: Worse on the 360...does not matter if you install disc two or not...PS3 better...no way to avoid it

2. Geometry/texture pop-in: Happens when you install disc 2 to the 360's HDD...you can avoid this by not installing disc 2 to the HDD...or APPARENTLY by installing it to a USB drive...basically as long as disc 1 and disc 2 are not installed in the same spot...

The article cites that environmental detail (twice in the article) is comparable on both versions, when it clearly isn't the case.

From what you are describing, they are not comparable, one is clearly superior than the other. I'm sorry, it's very poorly worded.

 

[Fafalada]

the image was full of severe dithering which kind of ruined the visuals.

Given the amount of shadow judder, LOD pop and other nasty IQ problems that title had (and I'm talking about running PC version maxed out here), resolution was the least of its issues.
GTA5 so far seems to be a lot more - visually-stable experience from what I've seen on PS3 (albeit I still don't care much for the visuals tbh).

 

[glaurung]

erm ... I sure hope not.

Sub-surface scat sounds awesome. Surely a good feature to have in DirectX 12. Heh.

Nonetheless, the facial animations and fidelity are a thing of beauty.

 

[Feindflug]

It's often obvious how mushy the 360 textures are while playing.
It can often look really bad:

Disappointing, hope it can be fixed.

It looks like complete absence of any form of AF which is weird since RDR on 360 had a good amount of AF...so maybe the 360 version has no texture filtering at all AND streaming issues on top of that?

This is like last gen levels of texture blurriness right there and it looks really really bad...between this and the streaming assets problems on the 360 version I think it's pretty clear that the PS3 was the lead platform this time around.

 

[Raonak]

It's often obvious how mushy the 360 textures are while playing.
It can often look really bad:

Disappointing, hope it can be fixed.

Would've thought that was GTA:SA if it werent for the draw distance.

 

[Billen]

Dips to 20 while driving in the city? That sounds horrendous. While I am very impressed with the looks of this game considering the aging hardware, dips to 20 frames per second is just horrible.

 

[Zornack]

The article cites that environmental detail (twice in the article) is comparable on both versions, when it clearly isn't the case.

From what you are describing, they are not comparable, one is clearly superior than the other. I'm sorry, it's very poorly worded.

Comparable does not mean exactly the same, it means comparable, which they are. They are very close. If you install disc two they're not close at all, the PS3 preforms much better, but when only disc one is installed they are comparable... but the PS3 version is still slightly better.

And anyways below the picture of the ground texture issue is this:

The biggest contrast between the PS3 and 360 versions is the blurred ground textures on Microsoft's platform. Regardless of whether disc two is installed via the Xbox dash, the textures in front of the lead character suffer from a filtered look.



 

[skybald]

Have a hard time taking Digital Foundry seriously since the bullshit pieces they have been publishing recently.

However, glad my buddy picked up the PS version for us to play.

 

[kitch9]

It's often obvious how mushy the 360 textures are while playing.
It can often look really bad:

Disappointing, hope it can be fixed.

After years of shit ports and being told that I'm paying the same money for an inferior product I have to say that selfishly, this pleases me.

 

[KKRT00]

Framerate is terrible. Now i'm glad that my PS3 is broken, because i would buy GTA 5 yesterday for sure.

 

[omonimo]

Dips to 20 while driving in the city? That sounds horrendous. While I am very impressed with the looks of this game considering the aging hardware, dips to 20 frames per second is just horrible.

It's a free roaming. It's pratically the normality (for this generation).

 

[Hyunashi]

You done good rockstar, I shall repay your effort by double dipping if it comes to next gen

 

[TheDarkKnight774]

hm..guessed wrong on the purchase

 

[nib95]

I'm with Vire on this. I get what they were saying, but I had to double take. I also think it's poorly written and should be re-worded or formatted to be more clear. It's not immediately clear that the author does not include texture streaming issues in his use of the term "environmental details", which he is using to refer only to the pop in and other issues that can be avoided by not installing the second disk.

 

[cyberheater]

After years of shit ports and being told that I'm paying the same money for an inferior product I have to say that selfishly, this pleases me.

He was obviously joking.

 

[Kabuki Quantum Lover]

Looks like both platforms got it good. Now the question is: will I have to pick up my ps3 copy at the shipping depot because the delivery person wants a signature?

 

[javac]

I went for the PS3 version on the grounds that I didn't have Gold for online. Both however seem to be good overall.

 

[omonimo]

hm..guessed wrong on the purchase

Lol. To be honest, on 360 seems a bit smoother from the video comparison. Don't be worried.

 

[Diprosalic]

at the end of the day it's choosing the lesser bad version if you have to play it now. that's why i hold out for the PC/PS4 one.

i saw both version live and i wouldn't want to play either.

 

[CosmicGroinPull]

Cool. PS3 version it is then.

 

[McLovin]

Do you run into issues if you get the digital version off psn? Or is it better to get the disc?

 

[Vire]

I'm with Vire on this. I get what they were saying, but I had to double take. I also think it's poorly written and should be re-worded or formatted to be more clear. It's not immediately clear that the author does not include texture streaming issues in his use of the term "environmental details", which he is using to refer only to the pop in and other issues that can be avoided by not installing the second disk.

Thank you.

Also, did they run a test on the PSN version that is completely installed to the hard drive? Hopefully that doesn't suffer from similar issues.

I'm so ready for this generation to be over.

 

[NBtoaster]

After years of shit ports and being told that I'm paying the same money for an inferior product I have to say that selfishly, this pleases me.

I'm sad. I honestly got this for the graphics and it's not the best it could be :<

He was obviously joking.

? No it is obvious while playing, especially in the countryside.

 

[Hanmik]

Thank you.

Also, did they run a test on the PSN version that is completely installed to the hard drive? Hopefully that doesn't suffer from similar issues.

I'm so ready for this generation to be over.

no... retail versions only.

 

[Metfanant]

The article cites that environmental detail (twice in the article) is comparable on both versions, when it clearly isn't the case.

From what you are describing, they are not comparable, one is clearly superior than the other. I'm sorry, it's very poorly worded.

No, lol...youre really just missing the point...

yes, environmental detail is almost completely the same on both versions...pixel for pixel nothing is scaled back on either console...HOWEVER there are two small issues with the 360 version...

1. There seems to be a bug/glitch/something that causes ground textures further away from the character to be blurry...

2. IF...IF!! you install disc 2 to the HDD then you will get some geometry/texture pop in because youre messing with the streaming that R* has built into their engine...

the PS3 has its own set of disadvantages (reflections of indoor mirrors, SLIGHTLY lower overall framerate, less voluptuous palm trees)

 

[nib95]

Thank you.

Also, did they run a test on the PSN version that is completely installed to the hard drive? Hopefully that doesn't suffer from similar issues.

I'm so ready for this generation to be over.

You and me both dude. As much as I think the game looks beautiful in videos, is really pushing the systems, and will no doubt be spectacularly fun, looking at DF's screen gave me an eye sore. After spending the last few months pixel peeping next gen screens and videos, I just realised how much better they were in terms of IQ and resolution compared to current gen. Next gen can't come soon enough!

And no, states on the left they used retail versions only.

 

[mocoworm]

iOS thought that was the right word, don't blame me

Spoiler

i need to proof read

If you were right then technically it would look like shit

 

[jetjevons]

Isn't all this a bit premature without GTA V Online performance comparisons? Or is that accounted for already?

 

[Vire]

No, lol...youre really just missing the point...

yes, environmental detail is almost completely the same on both versions...pixel for pixel nothing is scaled back on either console...HOWEVER there are two small issues with the 360 version...

1. There seems to be a bug/glitch/something that causes ground textures further away from the character to be blurry...

2. IF...IF!! you install disc 2 to the HDD then you will get some geometry/texture pop in because youre messing with the streaming that R* has built into their engine...

the PS3 has its own set of disadvantages (reflections of indoor mirrors, SLIGHTLY lower overall framerate, less voluptuous palm trees)

Based on what I have bolded, then environmental detail is not almost completely the same. I understand what you are saying, but if ground textures away from the character are blurry, than it is not the same. Or remotely similar.

This is semantics at this point and it is silly to argue, I stand by what I said, it's a poorly written article.

 

[Draft]

Developers are abandoning the Xbox platform a couple months ahead of schedule.