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DF/Eurogamer: First Xbox 3 Devkit leaks, 8 Core Intel CPU, nvidia GPU, 8-12GB RAM
- Thread starter Horse Armour
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I can't tell whether you're just trolling here. I seriously hope so.
cyberheater
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Really. Relative to graphics, show me a single game on WiiU that couldn't be done on PS360.
HollovVpo1nt
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Don't forget that MS has been experimenting with selling the console (360) on contract. Even if it ends up having high-end, expensive hardware, it can be affordable that way.
Btw, wth is up with these PC guys? First rumours of consoles having just 2GB of RAM, greeted with 'lulz consoles', now rumours of 4-8GB, which is greeted with 'lol it's a PC, buy PC instead'. Ugh.
Btw, wth is up with these PC guys? First rumours of consoles having just 2GB of RAM, greeted with 'lulz consoles', now rumours of 4-8GB, which is greeted with 'lol it's a PC, buy PC instead'. Ugh.
LQX
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Nvidia GPUs have been much better that AMD, a GPU on the level of a even GTX570 would be great so that is good sign, but it is also a bad sign for backwards compatible. I hope this does not mean every damn XBLA or disk game I own is in jeopardy of not working on a new console but knowing MS that is exactly what it means.
1)Who said it has to be a SOC?
2)If Microsoft is going Intel Im sure they can work those details rather easily.
Loghorn150
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You can't easily judge the power of a newer console based off of ports or launch titles.
Plinko
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I'm just curious as to why in a thread solely about the next Xbox you keep invoking the WiiU. On the first page, you were the first to do it. Nobody was talking about it, and yet you continue to blast it.
I'm not. They're wannabe desktop abortions in the sense they're inferior at everything.
What's been their sole purpose? Portability. Having a computer on your person.
The tablets and smartphones available today are vastly more powerful than all but the most recent laptops ever made. And they're designed from the ground up for this role. Not just clunked together. They're the future of mobility. Not some nerd box that's been slightly shrunk so it can fit in a briefcase.
If this is true, the next gen Xbox won't be as weak as I was expecting it to be.
Speaking of the Steam Workshop, I could see this working on XBL. They could introduce a model similar to Steam Workshop's (with stricter guidelines, in Microsoft nature) that allows for 1-click mod installation. I'm assuming each mod would require approval before actually geting on the Workshop.You stealth added
Steam and Steamworkshop obviously hosts mods for free. But you're right with the stealth addition, console manufacturers are all about the paid DLC and getting customers shoveled to the next piece of paid content as quickly as possible. They don't want customers lingering on software with great value. It undercuts their entire philosophy and it's why their policies are so hostile regarding patches.
Just because you keep reposting this shit doesn't make it true. Laptops are an abortion of the desktop PC. They're even more decimated by the tablet future than the desktop. Stop acting like this is replacing anything. The laptop has served it's extremely niche purpose and will go the way of the dodo.
bgassassin
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Not saying it's impossible as there is still time, but based on what I've learned this year I highly doubt MS changed to an Intel/nVidia combo. In fact a very key part is being ignored.
He's apparently guessing.
He's apparently guessing.
This hasn't been true in a long time, sorry to disappoint you.
Seeing as you haven't touched a modern laptop in years, let's not continue this discussion.
chaosblade
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You seriously see desktop PCs going before laptops? Laptops for home use as a "small PC" are being replaced by All-in-Ones. Laptops for portable use are being replaced by tablets.
There's your mainstream future. But towers will still exist, both at home and in the office, even if it's not to the extent they do now. You can't cram the power a tower provides in a portable package like a laptop or a tablet, and you'll never be able to unless you manage to defy physics.
Laptops for business use will likely cease to exist and be replaced by mouse and keyboard tablet peripherals.
That's why a $2000+ laptop is outperformed by a desktop PC that costs half as much? And a laptop is barely portable at that point since you're tethered to a wall due to the abysmal battery life.
H_Prestige
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Which is EXTREMELY important for a lot of people's jobs and for students. Do you seriously think you can replicate all the things you need a computer for on a fucking iphone? Get real.
And if you really don't believe laptops have eaten into the desktop market, provide some numbers ffs. The desktop used to be the thing every family owned. It will soon become a specialist device as more and more of its functions are replicated on portables.
OK, but you dont know whats all in the WiiU, and you dont know what will end up being
in the PS4 and Xbox3. What it sounds like is that you want the WiiU to be the weaker machine, and you hope that MS and Sony will come out with much more powerful machines than what the WiiU will end up being. And I dont get that. Why wouldn't want Nintendo to come out with a console on par with what you imagine the PS4 and the Xbox3 will be?
Three thoughts.
1. 720 may be much more impressive than many people thought. Can't help but wonder on the price. I guess they could do a contract like others have mentioned.
2. Well there goes backwards compatibility. I mean, it is Microsoft, but given the 360's huge success over the original Xbox, I thought they might put a little more effort into making sure it was BC.
3. Poor Nintendo.
1. 720 may be much more impressive than many people thought. Can't help but wonder on the price. I guess they could do a contract like others have mentioned.
2. Well there goes backwards compatibility. I mean, it is Microsoft, but given the 360's huge success over the original Xbox, I thought they might put a little more effort into making sure it was BC.
3. Poor Nintendo.
At least i can say that it´s not a powerful hardware if it doesn´t manage to outclass two 6/7 year old systems.
cyberheater
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I find it interesting to compare and contrast the paucity of effort and vision demonstrated by Nintendo with their 'next gen' machine relative to what MS are going to release.
Both will be competing for my cash at some point next year and indeed. Both will be demoing first party titles at E3. The difference in graphics is going to be massive.
cyberheater
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Really. Resistance Fall of Man and Kameo still look great today. Both launch titles.
You mind sharing what info you may have? Nothing against you but its very hard to believe without some kind of proof.
When he has developers confirming that he has hardware in hand(especially considering he track record with 360 kits) it makes it easier to believe him. He's probably guessing about certain details based on what he has.
Barack Lesnar
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He's guessing on when the devkits went out, not about the hardware specs. The "reckons" comes in the next sentence.
Out of Working Order
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64-bit in nature?
N64 2.
N64 2.
cyberheater
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Silas Lang
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Is this leak in the line with other rumors on the new Xbox's performance? Haven't been keeping up with it and am curious.
metalslimer
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I don't want to continue to go off topic, but this is wrong.
The 8GB of RAM sounds like the leaks we've been hearing. The Nvidia GPU doesn't and BG already said he doubted whether that ever happened.
Littlegator
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Except when people in the real world have real tasks to get done in places away from their workstation.
goldenpp72
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Nividia? Xbox 1 BC please, I know it must be a small market but man, being able to play my 100+ xbox 1 games fully on it would be sweet 
bgassassin
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http://forum.beyond3d.com/showpost.php?p=1653530&postcount=12991
I had some earlier posts, but this one is the "most detailed".
The specs are in that next sentence I quoted the section to show that.
Considering there have been multiple indications of who is manufacturing the components, as it stands nVidia (or Intel) wouldn't be the one.
Well that post says you don't know much about the CPU or GPU. I must have missed something.
It might as well be Maxwell House as it will be so hot that you can put a coffee pot on top of the console and make you a cup of joe.
Most Nvidia chips are beyond the TDP requirements of any game console.
Also, is it 8-core or 8-logical threads?
Barack Lesnar
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Yeah, that post tells me nothing. Lesson learned: don't believe everything you read on forums.
Edit- well he was right about the 12 gb dev kit part as the DF article says it has the kit has "8-12" gigs. That's it tho... nothing about the CPU or GPU.
Dictator93
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The Kepler Generation of GPU's makes your point very moot
ASSauLTxMasTER
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Those specs are kind of convincing towards getting a Xbox DevKit.
Wow, just wow. As a point of reference my current notebook has;
Intel Core i7 3720QM Processor
16GB RAM
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 660M with 2GB GDDR5 VRAM
750GB 7200rpm Hard Drive
Show me one tablet or phone that can compete with this.
I don't think you read his post.
Really? No...
Loghorn150
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This. Laptops are starting to be on their way out of the door now. And in the near future, regular desktops will be on their way out as well, as more & more people will start to buy those all-in-one PC's.
-Pyromaniac-
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RAM amount doesn't surprise me. I think people are gonna be surprised how much will be left for the OS itself, which I'm assuming will be quite massive. It's really the only explanation.
Especially going on how they want the next Xbox to be more "service-centric" than a pure gaming platform. I'd imagine around 3-4 gigs reserved for OS operations, especially with Windows 8 on there.
Laptops have been around for well over 20 years. So, ah, yes. The smartphone/tablet being sold today absolutely destroys the medium laptop.
Laptops and tablets will merge. Tablets will get keyboards, laptops will get touchscreens.
The form factor is not going away.
Vinterbird
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Yup. Been a lot of talk that the OS is going to take up a bunch of space since it will be always on and looking at the leaked document it's understandable.
-Pyromaniac-
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indeed. I figure the PS4 and next xbox will actually be quite similar when it comes to RAM for games. Any differences will be GPU related.
Oh, you are talking the medium of every laptop ever produced? If so, that's stupid. And I though the argument was that desktop computers were the ones going the way of the dodo...