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DF/JF: Battlefield 4 PS4 vs XB1 videos/screens (900p PS4, 720p XB1)
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Portugeezer
Member
It means the upscaling is done by the hardware rather than software code, although hardware upscaling is considered better, it shouldn't really matter next gen if most games aim for native 1080p anyway. Most TV's do a decent job at upscaling too because they're expected to upscale standard definition signal for some TV channels.
IQ means image quality.
$2000 PC
$1000 PC
PS4
$500 PC
XB1
$300 PC
Value your PC and it should fit around that scale. This idea that PCs are monolithic is inaccurate.
AlmostMilk
Member
Maybe it's just me but I hardly see a difference. Except for the lighting, which can be adjusted, it is way too close to call a deal breaker.
Have you watched the videos? Difference is far more pronounced in motion.
Even in the seemingly least compressed footage?
JackFrags videos don't look washed out
I'm the same and it will also depend highly on the size of your screen and distance you sit from it as to whether the resolution will really matter.
AgentP
Thinks mods influence posters politics. Promoted to QAnon Editor.
Doubtful, the old vgaleaks has hardware scaling on both, why wouldn't the ps4? They are both related AMD designs.
http://www.vgleaks.com/orbis-displayscanout-engine-dce/
AstroNut325
Member
Thank you. It annoys me when people just claim "PC is the best" without giving any sense of context to hardware.
That Wont Fit In There
Member
Looks amazing on both consoles, but I'd have to say most of what I just saw looks better on PS4.
velociraptor
Junior Member
Which footage are you referring to? PS4 looks pretty close to the PC in those shots. XBO looks the worst - more jaggies and crushed blacks.
Zatoichi's Cane
Member
JackFrags Next Gen Review is up.
confirmed, PS4 MP > Xbone SP, according to him and "other journalists there"
confirmed, PS4 MP > Xbone SP, according to him and "other journalists there"
PC and PS4 are somewhat close, but there's a noticeable difference even to a layman that the Xbone and PC look very different. Not Wii > PS360 obviously, but it's easy to see.
Insane Metal
Gold Member
Ouch.
Mr Moose
Member
Yup, I agree.
Always-honest
Banned
Ouch indeed. Hopefully it will get better for Xboxone multiplats.
Can someone please give me a nice summary of this enormous thread?
1) Does the X1 version look as good or very close to the PS4 version?The differences are notable for most people or only for crazy pixel counting graphic whores?
2)What is wrong with the PS4 upscale software? Does it make the difference less notable because it's not as good as the X1?
Is it something that sony can fix in a future patch (because it is a software after all)?
Thanks for whoever answers!
1) Does the X1 version look as good or very close to the PS4 version?The differences are notable for most people or only for crazy pixel counting graphic whores?
2)What is wrong with the PS4 upscale software? Does it make the difference less notable because it's not as good as the X1?
Is it something that sony can fix in a future patch (because it is a software after all)?
Thanks for whoever answers!
Well, there you go. After all that speculation all of yesterday about what he was trying to say, this is final confirmation. His videos seem to suggest that as well. Now, if only we can make a proper apples to apples comparison with whatever capturing equipment he used and post that to gamersyde, we can lay this thread to rest and move on!
He also mentions that neither version is final. Both could be changing between now and release. We already know XBO will be getting AO added, which should help. I assume both versions will also have some improvements to the framerate.
Sounds about right tbh.
Yikes Xbone version has really terrible image quality.
Duxxy3
Member
ref
Member
Can someone please give me a nice summary of this enormous thread?
1) Does the X1 version look as good or very close to the PS4 version?The differences are notable for most people or only for crazy pixel counting graphic whores?
2)What is wrong with the PS4 upscale software? Does it make the difference less notable because it's not as good as the X1?
Is it something that sony can fix in a future patch (because it is a software after all)?
Thanks for whoever answers!
I can only comment on one, but yes, unless you're a graphics whore, BF4 is pleasing to look at on both consoles. Go where your friends are/what you want. The PS4 version does look better overall mainly because of the resolution increase.
Ultimatepancake
Banned
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XqWRACk2zY
This video is pretty telling. Aliasing is really bad on bone, but it seems as if PS4 version's colors are a bit washed out. Also bone versions colors are a bit dark
edit: ignore this post pls
This video is pretty telling. Aliasing is really bad on bone, but it seems as if PS4 version's colors are a bit washed out. Also bone versions colors are a bit dark
edit: ignore this post pls
Always-honest
Banned
You're right.
PodcastFips
Member
Seriously?...
Looks like you haven't read at least one of the first 100 pages.
DigitalFoundry was off in terms of capturing, they don't offer a good comparison.
Circles...we're going in them. Digital Foundry did a lousy capture. That's not how the games look.
Ultimatepancake
Banned
I didn't read even a single page
lol
ignore my earlier post pls
These are pretty telling
This video really does need to be removed from the internet.
Metroid-Squadron
Banned
Love the smoke particles casting shadows.Nice, thanks.
Thanks for this post, it's the first strong example of what differences exist between consoles. I agree with others that all versions are pretty spectacular, but in my eyes the PS4 version is definitely the version to get (as a non-FPS PC guy).
Animated PNG lossless comparisons (no shitty GIF dithering). Really shows the PC shittin on erbody
Only works in superior browsers like Firefox
go here to check: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/APNG#Application_support
will work in chrome after you install this: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/apng/ehkepjiconegkhpodgoaeamnpckdbblp
wow.
SRTtoZ
Member
Exactly. I just got done with my 1st hour of BF4 SP on PC, Ultra on everything except a few high settings, 2xmsaa, medium post processing aa, 1080p and it looks slightly better than the PS4 version. Honestly, I'm not that impressed with BF4 visually, I mean, yea it looks good but this isnt light years ahead of BF3 like some thought.
maybe, but looks like different colors, as well as the brown darker strips being thinner and less blobby on one of them. Seems they have a different shape unique to each console. Which made me think they are perhaps a different camo all together. Anyways, its just a small thing, I dont know.
HORRORSHØW
Member
Remember, remember
the fifth of November.
This guy seems pretty level-headed about this whole situation. This is a good video and he does a good job stating that this is just his opinion, early copy, may not have all effects, not a true comparison b/c single versus multiplayer, etc.
I like this guy.
ss_lemonade
Member
Are those dynamic clouds in the background? Is that why they're visible on one platform and not on the others?Animated PNG lossless comparisons (no shitty GIF dithering). Really shows the PC shittin on erbody
Only works in superior browsers like Firefox
go here to check: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/APNG#Application_support
will work in chrome after you install this: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/apng/ehkepjiconegkhpodgoaeamnpckdbblp
Huh, from the animated PNGs it almost looks like the PS4 is crushing some black detail, too?
I also have to question the reasoning behind getting full-RGB video captures. Consoles are meant to be displayed on TVs, so why not capture the footage at the standard reference video levels almost all other media is calibrated to? What's the point of calibrating a TV to reference levels if you're not feeding it video-level data? Ideally, isn't that the reference to which developers should be adjusting their levels?
I guess I don't see the point of full-range RGB for a console, not a computer.
I also have to question the reasoning behind getting full-RGB video captures. Consoles are meant to be displayed on TVs, so why not capture the footage at the standard reference video levels almost all other media is calibrated to? What's the point of calibrating a TV to reference levels if you're not feeding it video-level data? Ideally, isn't that the reference to which developers should be adjusting their levels?
I guess I don't see the point of full-range RGB for a console, not a computer.
bigboss370
Member
imo the effects, lighting, motion blur, and textures on PS4 is a much bigger advantage than resolution and framerate >_>
maybe because i'm not seeing it on a tv (and youtube only shows 30fps)?
maybe because i'm not seeing it on a tv (and youtube only shows 30fps)?
SRTtoZ
Member
Not only is he level-headed, this is a guy ive never heard of who got the best footage of a brand new next gen game out of ALL the media outlets.
qa_engineer
Member
I just noticed that the PS4 is the only version with clouds. Clouds = Cloud Power
Infinite Power of the Cloud?
PS4 online update bf4
From Mitch Dyer @ IGN: "not exactly in the best state... lots of crashing..it was rough.. everytime we tried to load into a new map everyone was crossing their fingers... It was a 50/50 shot, and that's pretty generous"
Thread was just created and closed with this info. Not sure why. Note they didn't see the final build.
edit fixed link
http://www.ign.com/videos/2013/10/29/where-is-the-next-gen-battlefield-4-review
From Mitch Dyer @ IGN: "not exactly in the best state... lots of crashing..it was rough.. everytime we tried to load into a new map everyone was crossing their fingers... It was a 50/50 shot, and that's pretty generous"
Thread was just created and closed with this info. Not sure why. Note they didn't see the final build.
edit fixed link
http://www.ign.com/videos/2013/10/29/where-is-the-next-gen-battlefield-4-review
Jest Chillin
Member
The clouds are in the other versions as well. They're just lighter colored for some reason.
qa_engineer
Member
Yea, PS4 seems to be enjoying an advantage in all areas. Post processing (AA, AO, Motion blur, depth of field etc) as well as a resolution advantage and a more consistent frame rate. Much bigger difference than I ever expected. Certainly more than a 30-40% difference by the numbers or in terms of resource intensiveness.