Fourth Storm
Member
Fujitsu FCRAM for the main pool + 6 MB of SRAM on the die.
-
Hey, guest user. Hope you're enjoying NeoGAF! Have you considered registering for an account? Come join us and add your take to the daily discourse.
DF: Nintendo NX Powered By Nvidia Tegra! Initial Spec Analysis
- Thread starter DeathSparks
- Start date
- Status
Fujitsu FCRAM for the main pool + 6 MB of SRAM on the die.
chaosblade
Unconfirmed Member
Nintendo probably wants this to see a level of success closer to the 3DS than the Wii U. "Mass market" appeal matters, and if the Wii U is any indication then Nintendo fans don't.
SatoAilDarko
Member
I hope they go X1 over X2. It'll be underpowered no matter what compared to the regular versions of the other consoles much less Neo and Scorpio. An X2 also wouldn't suddenly get them third-party support.
If it allows them to have to less work into graphics and producce games cheaper and faster I'm all for that.
Wii U has some stunning games based on art style. Nintendo doesn't need the extra power.
If it allows them to have to less work into graphics and producce games cheaper and faster I'm all for that.
Wii U has some stunning games based on art style. Nintendo doesn't need the extra power.
Elfforkusu
Member
If Nintendo is using a next-gen Tegra, which would be my uneducated bet, this anandtech article from January could be relevant:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/9902/nvidia-discloses-2016-tegra
http://www.anandtech.com/show/9902/nvidia-discloses-2016-tegra
Tegra X1 uses 20w in devices like Drive PX, which uses a higher clocked dual X1 soc to hit 2.3Gflop. A single X1 at 1Ghz (512Gflops) is far below that TDP.
LordBaztion
Member
Is it too soon for a dragon ball comparison?
Seriously, can watch the video since I'm on the phone but competitively to which platform it is more similar?
Seriously, can watch the video since I'm on the phone but competitively to which platform it is more similar?
Jack The Nipper
Banned
I'm worried they force too much wii u from the screen. Can they just use it in sketch and mp options like ps4 and one does with phones.
Really don't want more star fox issues
Really don't want more star fox issues
Yeah, I'll deal with this. Nintendo games look good enough.
Fahzgoolin
Banned
For the most part I agree. Graphics have gotten to a point where more and more poly's doesn't necessarily grant you a better image or a better experience for any given game.
Big Chungus
Member
my body is ready
Believe.
MS? yeah. I don't see how Sony was, though.
Or have a more efficient architecture, wether that's GPU/CPU features and/or memory structure. XBox One doesn't have GDDR5 after all.
Do we still do Z comparisons, or do we have to do Super comparisons now?
JoeyJungle
Banned
Hope it's the X2. X1 is a fine power boost from the Wii U, but games will pretty quickly look outdated on the NX compared to the new versions of the Xbone and PS4 releasing next year, and the lack of power combined with cross-gen ports of games being pretty much over almost guarantees a lack of 3rd party support if they choose to go with the X1.
Either way is good news for handheld fans, though. 3DS' swan song games don't look much better than games that were coming out 2-3 years ago.
Either way is good news for handheld fans, though. 3DS' swan song games don't look much better than games that were coming out 2-3 years ago.
mugurumakensei
Member
Sony didn't really get screwed by nVidia. nVidia had to hand something to Sony pretty quickly to compensate for Cell problems . cell screwed Sony .
Yep. Nvidia gave them the best they had for a 2005 launch. Is just that ATI's experimental design was better.
To be fair, I don't doubt Nintendo's RAM choices. I'm sure they'll choose what's best for them even if there are small drawbacks. It usually has worked out really well for them anyways.
I'm only concerned about CPU and GPU power, so we'll see. I still don't think we'll be getting a 1.5TFLOP handheld/hybrid, but I don't know anymore. I was also extremely adamant that we will not get a hybrid, but look where we are now
My guess is it would likely just be a lower resolution screen for the handheld unit. Maybe 720p or something around there. Then for the docked mode it would out put full 1080p with the same visuals and effects just at a higher internal rendering resolution.
HawthorneKitty
Sgt. 2nd Class in the Creep Battalion, Waifu Wars
I haven't watched like half of it so Z would help.
To be fair, I don't doubt Nintendo's RAM choices. I'm sure they'll choose what's best for them even if there are small drawbacks. It usually has worked out really well for them anyways.
I'm only concerned about CPU and GPU power, so we'll see. I still don't think we'll be getting a 1.5TFLOP handheld/hybrid, but I don't know anymore. I was also extremely adamant that we will not get a hybrid, but look where we are now
Maybe around a 1Tflop GPU with a well designed/balanced memory architecture, around XBox One performance. I'd be happy with that. No idea if this really is NX though (as in their is no stand alone console). Seems to contradict everything Nintendo said to my memory.
Elfforkusu
Member
I don't think the CPU will be anything impressive, because Nintendo. And I'd also caution against too high expectations out of the RAM, also because Nintendo.
But a 16nm process and a beefy GPU (for the power constraints) is entirely plausible.
After the N64, Nintendo doesn't skimp on RAM.
ONly if they dont cheap out on the display which has been a trend for them with handhelds. Good color depth and accuracy is paramount for smaller displays. Hence why the OLED vita screen gets so much praise despite being technically sub HD resolution.
Isn't that just conjecture/projection from the a single comment "Cell could replace the GPU"?
Nvidia's RSX cost more than a Cell and underperformed.
2006. Nvidia already had new tech by then.
Stop thinking in terms of the mobile phone resolution race and remember that currently we play 1080p games on 50+ inch screens. This will probably be a 6-8 inch screen, 720p games would look far from shitty on a screen that size.
I actually think Sony was going to go ahead and literally stick with only 2 CELL CPUs (no discrete GPU because hurdur CELL!). Maybe it isn't too farfetched to suggest that Nvidia was forced into a tight schedule because of Sony. Of course, all of this is speculation, so I don't really know. But it could make sense.
Mr. Pointy
Member
If NX is running 540p in handheld mode, then I hope it's only 6" screen at most.
ethomaz
Banned
There is no other lol
Tegra is the best option for what they want.
BTW Sony did fine with them and just changed to AMD because nVidia didn't have a x86 CPU.
It was delayed, too late to change the design.
GPU might end up the more impressive component in this system. But I think relative to current gen consoles the CPU is actually the most likely component to be above the competition. Purely due to the poor performance of PS4 and XBox One's CPU's.
Pure conjecture to me unless there is some leaked insider info. The reality is that RSX cost more than Cell, underperformed, and Nvidia are loathe to give concessions on cost cuts.
Nintendo will be hurt by this decision.
Seems like you basically described Parker
And I'll buy every game on Steam.
superNESjoe
Member
Lol, OK. Newsflash. Something can sell worse than its competition, and still be making very good sales. If PS4 weren't in the picture, Xbox One would be among the fastest selling consoles of all time, hell, it is still among the fastest despite the massive lead Sony has.
To make sure people realize why this is relevant since the original post is pages back. The entire point was to illustrate that cutting edge hardware isn't necessary for great sales. A goofball decided to come along and suggest the Xbox One was proof that lesser hardware leads to bad sales. They are wrong.
Jawbreaker
Member
I may wait out for the inevitable revision.
Pimpbaa
Member
Current 3ds/vita games can have loading just as long as current consoles. In some case ports of portable games load considerably faster on ps4. Of course NX carts might be faster, they better be considering games will be bigger and much more data has to be loaded into system ram.
By continuing to make dedicated hardware, they are stepping towards not publishing their own titles?... WTF
GhostTrick
Banned
ultrazilla
Member
I agree. I think it'll be the x2 as well. No reason for them to overclock the 1.
All the doom and gloom people need to relax imho. Nintendo knows the Wii U
failed from it being under powered. I don't see them turning around and giving
us another under powered console.
My prediction is that it will use a x2 or custom x1(thus them needing to overclock the current chip)
- Status