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That's crazy, even the ancient demo build was a huge improvement to the first and looks on par with other PS4 games. The final build is pretty gorgeous.
That's crazy, even the ancient demo build was a huge improvement to the first and looks on par with other PS4 games. The final build is pretty gorgeous.
Demo was based on the e3 build though...and it was 6 months oldDemos are usually pretty indicative of the final product. Really impressed with how much they improved.
These are the kind of differences I hope to see in new games going forward.
Downsampling, especially.
You should flex your superior intellect muscles by insulting him instead of taking 15 seconds to clarify!
It's a solid 30 throughout 30 hours of gameplay and suddenly 10 seconds of minor (reasonable) drops in the most stressing scenes then back to solid 30 throughout is enough to make you dissaapointed?I'm disappointed that the Pro version can't run at 30 fps without any drops.
Exactly what I was thinking after reading the OP and then reading that comment.It's a solid 30 throughout 30 hours of gameplay and suddenly 10 seconds of minor (reasonable) drops in the most stressing scenes then back to solid 30 throughout is enough to make you dissaapointed?
Not really; the video doesn't mention anything about draw distance improvements. That said, the 2160geo method will let you see tiny geometrical details at distances they'd otherwise disappear.It does have much better draw distance/LOD on Pro though.
GT Sport is going to be 1800c, not 1440p. Horizon is going to be 2160c. You're right that both will look better than this game's 2160geo method, though.I agree, native 4K is impressive with graphics like this. Just wait till other games that have more time to utilize it like Horizon and GTS. GTS in 1440p will look amazeballs.
I'm disappointed that the Pro version can't run at 30 fps without any drops.
I was under the impression that it was 1440 which is still noticeable to me compared to 1080p but 1800c is WAY better. If GTS is crisp like Ratchet or Uncharted it will be a looker indeed and pretty close to photorealistic. Horizon is also better than I expected, I figured it'd be 1800c. 2160c will be hard to tell from native 4K without a side by side comparison. Anyway the Pro goodness in this game will be eye candy, can't wait!Not really; the video doesn't mention anything about draw distance improvements. That said, the 2160geo method will let you see tiny geometrical details at distances they'd otherwise disappear.
Also, despite that DF didn't mention any draw distance improvements, watching the video I did spot an instance of less pop-in on Pro.
GT Sport is going to be 1800c, not 1440p. Horizon is going to be 2160c. You're right that both will look better than this game's 2160geo method, though.
Exactly what I was thinking after reading the OP and then reading that comment.
It's like having a perfect day and a half with beautiful, sunny skies, it drizzling for 10 seconds, and saying how awful the weather is.
It's a solid 30 throughout 30 hours of gameplay and suddenly 10 seconds of minor (reasonable) drops in the most stressing scenes then back to solid 30 throughout is enough to make you dissaapointed?
I would bet money that such people are suddenly not that critical about such things if it happened with their PC setup.
That isn't what they said though.I think I'm more disappointed that some areas run better on the standard PS4 than the Pro.
I think I'm more disappointed that some areas run better on the standard PS4 than the Pro.
Like 1 or 2 fps better in that 10 whole seconds? Damn man dissaapointed preorder cancelled.I think I'm more disappointed that some areas run better on the standard PS4 than the Pro.
Exactly what I was thinking after reading the OP and then reading that comment.
It's like having a perfect day and a half with beautiful, sunny skies, it drizzling for 10 seconds, and saying how awful the weather is.
Yes.Its not native 4K. Its native geometry scaling. The geometry is rendered at 4K, meaning the edges on geometry have the quality of 4K, but the actual framebuffer is still rendered at a lower resolution(maybe 1080p?)
Ordered grid MSAA, is better term in this case.Downsampling woo woo.
Not really, if anything PC players complain about it even more, except it's about dropping below 60 rather than 30.
Yes.
Pretty much ordered grid 4xMSAA where each subsample is positioned to it's own pixel.
Most likely they do filtering for colors within the surface to avoid square pixel look.
Should be close to this. (Although in this paper there is no filtering of a surface.)
http://www.pmavridis.com/research/coarse_shading/
If there is post AA pass on top it should look very good.
Sadly it seems that Infamous released only the checkerboard for us, so we cannot really compare.^ Yep, although i don't know how it compares to Infamous's implementation for their Pro mode, here it looks pretty good from what i can tell
You expectations needed to be checked on that one, it's almost an open world type game with massive physics going on during battles etc, cpu will have meant it couldn't do 60 even at normal 1080p.So, not even a 60 fps mode at 1080p? Jesus...
So, not even a 60 fps mode at 1080p? Jesus...
I'm disappointed that the Pro version can't run at 30 fps without any drops.
Wonder what Jim(quisition) was talking about when he mentioned the graphics were bad. Maybe he wasn't playing it on Pro?
nice job there! gonna reward them with a day 1 purchase instead of waiting for a sale.
How is that bait? OP straight up says both versions drop below 30 FPS occasionally but do a good job masking it. Doesn't sound like a problem at all since that rarely occurs but you can't ignore facts.Surprisingly effective bait.
How is that bait? OP straight up says both versions drop below 30 FPS occasionally but do a good job masking it. Doesn't sound like a problem at all since that rarely occurs but you can't ignore facts.
Will buy after I complete GRR
Seems like you're getting upset over nothing to me. OP says there are frame drops but they are rare, that is a fact. Poster you quoted said they were disappointed it dropped at all to which you responded with a "bait" accusation. Doesn't matter if there's one or two instances over 5 hours when things get hectic, it still drops. I don't care about that but the other person does; I don't think it's fair for you to claim they are trolling or whatever for barely criticising something you like. It's not like they said "Sub 30 FPS?? Pshh, no buy"Two or three dropped frames out of 540000 (5 hours at 30fps) doesn't qualify as occasionally IMO.
Quoted poster is 'disappointed' by something that was only detectable using measuring equipment.
Clearly not bait.
Seems like you're getting upset over nothing to me. OP says there are frame drops but they are rare, that is a fact. Poster you quoted said they were disappointed it dropped at all to which you responded with a "bait" accusation. Doesn't matter if there's one or two instances over 5 hours when things get hectic, it still drops. I don't care about that but the other person does; I don't think it's fair for you to claim they are trolling or whatever for barely criticising something you like. It's not like they said "Sub 30 FPS?? Pshh, no buy"
nice job there! gonna reward them with a day 1 purchase instead of waiting for a sale.
Is down sampling and super sampling the same thing?
I see people using both in this thread for the pro version.
Checkerboarding has its own draw-backs, though.
I think the technique used here works well with the visual style as it has a very stylized look so the lower resolution in-surface detail doesn't stick out like a sore thumb.
Now, on a PC monitor viewed at close proximity, the limitations are evident but from a normal viewing distance (or even a close viewing distance) it looks extremely sharp.
I sit 5 to 8ft (depending on where I pull the chair) from a 55" OLED screen and it looks marvelous there.
Also, even though I tried to make it clear in the video, the frame-rate is 99% stable 30fps. I highlighted the worst case scenario that I found just to demonstrate what CAN happen but I had to play for hours before reaching any sort of noticeable slowdown. It's a very VERY stable game. A few drops here and there are no big deal.